2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumMy latest electoral college numbers
In my latest thinking for the electoral college, Barack Obama has made some gains over Mitt Romney, and I have only one state that I call a tossup. Here are my latest numbers.
Obama states; Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Rhode Island, New York, Pennsylvania, Delaware, New Jersey, DC, Maryland, Illinois, Minnesota, Michigan, Wisconsin, Iowa, Ohio, Virginia, New Mexico, Colorado, Nevada, Washington, Oregon, California and Hawaii. 25 states, plus DC for 303 electoral votes
Romney states; Alaska, Idaho, Montana, Utah, Arizona, Wyoming, North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma, Texas, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, Arkansas, Missouri, Tennessee, Kentucky, Louisiana, South Carolina, North Carolina, West Virginia, Indiana. 24 states, 206 electoral votes
One tossup state; Florida. 29 electoral votes.
Agree/Disagree???
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)Lex
(34,108 posts)Not sure the fundies here are all that impressed with Mitt and they sure don't like that he's a Mormon.
center rising
(971 posts)Obama will have a tough time winning it. Polls are close, but I think it goes red.
TheDebbieDee
(11,119 posts)Obama lost Missouri by less than 4,000 votes to McCain. Four thousand votes can be found in just about any large, urban neighborhood in Missouri in which the residents are allowed to vote!
freshwest
(53,661 posts)I hope you're right. I read that the GOP in PA and TX may not get away their schemes there. It seems too many states that went for Obama in 2008 have gone right wing fundie.
TheDebbieDee
(11,119 posts)her mind as to whether she is a Democrat or a repuke. She does nothing to excite progressive Democrats and she seems scared $hitless to say or do anything that will draw negative attention from Missouri conservatives.
The last 2 years or so she's only been good for making bi-weekly appearances on Mornin' Joe. I will be holding my nose when I vote for her in November......
Thank goodness Missouri has a Democratic Governor (Jay Nixon) that has vetoed many of the actions that would make us West Mississippi.......
brooklynite
(94,502 posts)...because they're not in Missouri. This is and has been a centrist battleground state for years. Playing to the left makes activites feel good, but it doesn't help with the voters.
TheDebbieDee
(11,119 posts)into the 21st Century........hell, even into the 20th Century. We're frustrated as hell and we're growing impatient - at least, I am.
I feel that all of Missouri is being held back by conservatives in central and southern Missouri. I hate the way these people think but they ALWAYS shows up to vote!
Robbins
(5,066 posts)Progressive Dems here are mostly In St Louis and Kansas City.The governor Is our only check against a right wing lesislative.
after november the only democratcic congressmen will likely be Emmanuel Clever In Kansas City(he's my congressman) and Lacy Clay
In St Louis(Him and his father before him were my congressman when I lived In St Louis.Untill 2006 I lived most of my life In St
Louis)
freshwest
(53,661 posts)center rising
(971 posts)303 EV seems about right. There are bound to be some changes, but as of now, I put Obama with a solid lead.
Chipper Chat
(9,677 posts)Obama could lose Virginia, Ohio, and Colorado and still win. (If he gets Florida, that is).
center rising
(971 posts)demwing
(16,916 posts)on that map, with 275 ECV
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,406 posts)and STILL win, albeit by a "too close for comfort" margin. 270towin.com is a really good site to play around with. The truth of the matter is that President Obama has many paths to 270. Romney has to rely on the wind REALLY being at his back in order to win in November. Good turnout by Dems on Election Day 2012 should be able to deliver a second term for President Obama. In my estimation, something catastrophic would have to happen to President Obama or Mitt would have to gain some serious "Mitt-mentum" to win in November. The bigger problem that I see is what kind of House and Senate we might end up with in November and whether or not President Obama and Democrats in Congress will spend more time playing offense or defense.
SoutherDem
(2,307 posts)I would wait for two weeks after both conventions. Then look at the numbers to see where Obama stands.
Wounded Bear
(58,647 posts)CobaltBlue
(1,122 posts)I'd be willing to post an electoral map, but am not aware if I can. (Or how to do so.)
I look at polling numbers for the context. And I consider previous elections. Numerous factors.
TexasTowelie
(112,121 posts)On their map, Florida is awarded to Obama and the totals are 332 to 206.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)ges6262fese
(1 post)DCBob
(24,689 posts)The only exception is they give FL to O.
demwing
(16,916 posts)Virginia and Iowa have very similar margins of support for Obama (all less than 1.5%). What tells you Florida is a toss up and not the other states?
Daniel537
(1,560 posts)Florida is the only one of the battleground states that swings back and forth consistently on his map so i would say this is the most accurate projection of how things will end up, for now at least.
mikekohr
(2,312 posts)We remain as divided a nation as ever, thanks to Faux Gnus and right-wing hate radio. Nothing much electorially has changed since 2008.
Florida and NC are truely swing states, but to get to 270, Robme has to take both of them, plus VA, OH, and one other big steal from the Democratic column. Possible? Yes. Likely? Not much.
Suji to Seoul
(2,035 posts)is the insane asylum of Texas. i believe Florida will go blue again.
stuckinodi
(113 posts)Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)On his map, Obama's been at 303 for several days, with Florida going to Romney, but the latest poll is from SurveyUSA and has Obama ahead there, 48% to 43%. On that basis the electoral-vote.com map is now giving Florida's 29 votes to Obama.
Polls several months out are close to meaningless, but I guess I'm not the only DUer who's a junkie and can't help following them.
I think most states will stay where they were In 2008.The only ones I think could flip are
Indiana-It will defently go Romney however democrats have chance at a senate seat here
NC-This Is tossup.I would say It leans Romney but Obama still has chance here
Florida-with the voter purge we can't be sure how It will go.However Obama Is fighting and Survey USA's likely voter poll of Obama up by 5 Is good news
Missouri-there Is wild chance of a narrow Obama win as part of electoral landslide In part due to weaknes of Romney,and antimorman
sentiment In the state.Between a black man and a Morman some might stay home.
Let's remember Obama can win with just the kerry states+Gore states of Iowa and New Mexico+Nevada and Colorado.Winning Ohio
and Virginia ensures Romney's loss even with a win In Florida.And If he loses Florida with Ohio and Virginia bye bye Romney.