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center rising

(971 posts)
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 11:34 PM Jul 2012

My latest electoral college numbers

In my latest thinking for the electoral college, Barack Obama has made some gains over Mitt Romney, and I have only one state that I call a tossup. Here are my latest numbers.


Obama states; Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Rhode Island, New York, Pennsylvania, Delaware, New Jersey, DC, Maryland, Illinois, Minnesota, Michigan, Wisconsin, Iowa, Ohio, Virginia, New Mexico, Colorado, Nevada, Washington, Oregon, California and Hawaii. 25 states, plus DC for 303 electoral votes

Romney states; Alaska, Idaho, Montana, Utah, Arizona, Wyoming, North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma, Texas, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, Arkansas, Missouri, Tennessee, Kentucky, Louisiana, South Carolina, North Carolina, West Virginia, Indiana. 24 states, 206 electoral votes

One tossup state; Florida. 29 electoral votes.

Agree/Disagree???

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My latest electoral college numbers (Original Post) center rising Jul 2012 OP
I think North Carolina should be a tossup. It has been very close for a long time. yellowcanine Jul 2012 #1
It went to Obama in 2008. Lex Jul 2012 #2
NC was tough, but in the end, center rising Jul 2012 #3
Missouri just might go Blue this year........ TheDebbieDee Jul 2012 #4
Isn't the GOP close against the Democratic Senator there? I've seen discouraging reports of MO. freshwest Jul 2012 #5
The problem with the Democratic Senator here, McCaskill, is that she can't make up TheDebbieDee Jul 2012 #11
maybe she doesn't excite progressive Democrats... brooklynite Jul 2012 #23
Excuse me, but there are progressive Dems here in Missouri and we want to bring Missouri TheDebbieDee Jul 2012 #27
I agree Robbins Jul 2012 #28
I sure hope you have that 303 count firm. Thanks for the information. freshwest Jul 2012 #6
From all the polling I've seen center rising Jul 2012 #8
The good news about your poll is that Chipper Chat Jul 2012 #7
Yeah, Obama definitely has some wiggle room here. center rising Jul 2012 #9
Obama could lose Colorado, Florida, Iowa, and Virginia and still win demwing Jul 2012 #18
He could theoretically lose Virginia, Ohio AND Florida Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2012 #22
Too soon to do serious calculations SoutherDem Jul 2012 #10
I think it is valuable to track trends...nt Wounded Bear Jul 2012 #25
Well… CobaltBlue Jul 2012 #12
Almost in complete agreement with the RealClearPolitics no-swing states Electoral College map. TexasTowelie Jul 2012 #13
oops... just posted the same thing.. DCBob Jul 2012 #16
excellent ges6262fese Jul 2012 #14
I think that is almost exactly the RCP no toss-up map DCBob Jul 2012 #15
Why only Florida? demwing Jul 2012 #17
That's pretty much how Nate Silver's forecast has things right now. Daniel537 Jul 2012 #19
I've been calling 332-333 to 205-206 for about a year now. mikekohr Jul 2012 #20
i believe indiana and missouri will flip. i believe the only big state Obama will not carry Suji to Seoul Jul 2012 #21
No Way IN Goes for Obama n/t stuckinodi Jul 2012 #26
The Votemaster (electoral-vote.com) has Obama at 332 Jim Lane Jul 2012 #24
My take Robbins Jul 2012 #29

Lex

(34,108 posts)
2. It went to Obama in 2008.
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 11:42 PM
Jul 2012

Not sure the fundies here are all that impressed with Mitt and they sure don't like that he's a Mormon.



center rising

(971 posts)
3. NC was tough, but in the end,
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 11:44 PM
Jul 2012

Obama will have a tough time winning it. Polls are close, but I think it goes red.

 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
4. Missouri just might go Blue this year........
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 11:51 PM
Jul 2012

Obama lost Missouri by less than 4,000 votes to McCain. Four thousand votes can be found in just about any large, urban neighborhood in Missouri in which the residents are allowed to vote!

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
5. Isn't the GOP close against the Democratic Senator there? I've seen discouraging reports of MO.
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 12:02 AM
Jul 2012

I hope you're right. I read that the GOP in PA and TX may not get away their schemes there. It seems too many states that went for Obama in 2008 have gone right wing fundie.

 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
11. The problem with the Democratic Senator here, McCaskill, is that she can't make up
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 01:08 AM
Jul 2012

her mind as to whether she is a Democrat or a repuke. She does nothing to excite progressive Democrats and she seems scared $hitless to say or do anything that will draw negative attention from Missouri conservatives.

The last 2 years or so she's only been good for making bi-weekly appearances on Mornin' Joe. I will be holding my nose when I vote for her in November......

Thank goodness Missouri has a Democratic Governor (Jay Nixon) that has vetoed many of the actions that would make us West Mississippi.......

brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
23. maybe she doesn't excite progressive Democrats...
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 11:47 AM
Jul 2012

...because they're not in Missouri. This is and has been a centrist battleground state for years. Playing to the left makes activites feel good, but it doesn't help with the voters.

 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
27. Excuse me, but there are progressive Dems here in Missouri and we want to bring Missouri
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 07:40 PM
Jul 2012

into the 21st Century........hell, even into the 20th Century. We're frustrated as hell and we're growing impatient - at least, I am.

I feel that all of Missouri is being held back by conservatives in central and southern Missouri. I hate the way these people think but they ALWAYS shows up to vote!

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
28. I agree
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 07:51 PM
Jul 2012

Progressive Dems here are mostly In St Louis and Kansas City.The governor Is our only check against a right wing lesislative.
after november the only democratcic congressmen will likely be Emmanuel Clever In Kansas City(he's my congressman) and Lacy Clay
In St Louis(Him and his father before him were my congressman when I lived In St Louis.Untill 2006 I lived most of my life In St
Louis)

center rising

(971 posts)
8. From all the polling I've seen
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 12:13 AM
Jul 2012

303 EV seems about right. There are bound to be some changes, but as of now, I put Obama with a solid lead.

Chipper Chat

(9,677 posts)
7. The good news about your poll is that
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 12:13 AM
Jul 2012

Obama could lose Virginia, Ohio, and Colorado and still win. (If he gets Florida, that is).

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,406 posts)
22. He could theoretically lose Virginia, Ohio AND Florida
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 11:44 AM
Jul 2012

and STILL win, albeit by a "too close for comfort" margin. 270towin.com is a really good site to play around with. The truth of the matter is that President Obama has many paths to 270. Romney has to rely on the wind REALLY being at his back in order to win in November. Good turnout by Dems on Election Day 2012 should be able to deliver a second term for President Obama. In my estimation, something catastrophic would have to happen to President Obama or Mitt would have to gain some serious "Mitt-mentum" to win in November. The bigger problem that I see is what kind of House and Senate we might end up with in November and whether or not President Obama and Democrats in Congress will spend more time playing offense or defense.

SoutherDem

(2,307 posts)
10. Too soon to do serious calculations
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 12:48 AM
Jul 2012

I would wait for two weeks after both conventions. Then look at the numbers to see where Obama stands.

 

CobaltBlue

(1,122 posts)
12. Well…
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 01:47 AM
Jul 2012

I'd be willing to post an electoral map, but am not aware if I can. (Or how to do so.)

I look at polling numbers for the context. And I consider previous elections. Numerous factors.

TexasTowelie

(112,121 posts)
13. Almost in complete agreement with the RealClearPolitics no-swing states Electoral College map.
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 02:43 AM
Jul 2012

On their map, Florida is awarded to Obama and the totals are 332 to 206.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
17. Why only Florida?
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 09:46 AM
Jul 2012

Virginia and Iowa have very similar margins of support for Obama (all less than 1.5%). What tells you Florida is a toss up and not the other states?

 

Daniel537

(1,560 posts)
19. That's pretty much how Nate Silver's forecast has things right now.
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 10:03 AM
Jul 2012

Florida is the only one of the battleground states that swings back and forth consistently on his map so i would say this is the most accurate projection of how things will end up, for now at least.

mikekohr

(2,312 posts)
20. I've been calling 332-333 to 205-206 for about a year now.
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 10:55 AM
Jul 2012

We remain as divided a nation as ever, thanks to Faux Gnus and right-wing hate radio. Nothing much electorially has changed since 2008.
Florida and NC are truely swing states, but to get to 270, Robme has to take both of them, plus VA, OH, and one other big steal from the Democratic column. Possible? Yes. Likely? Not much.

 

Suji to Seoul

(2,035 posts)
21. i believe indiana and missouri will flip. i believe the only big state Obama will not carry
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 11:31 AM
Jul 2012

is the insane asylum of Texas. i believe Florida will go blue again.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
24. The Votemaster (electoral-vote.com) has Obama at 332
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 01:23 PM
Jul 2012

On his map, Obama's been at 303 for several days, with Florida going to Romney, but the latest poll is from SurveyUSA and has Obama ahead there, 48% to 43%. On that basis the electoral-vote.com map is now giving Florida's 29 votes to Obama.

Polls several months out are close to meaningless, but I guess I'm not the only DUer who's a junkie and can't help following them.

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
29. My take
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 08:01 PM
Jul 2012

I think most states will stay where they were In 2008.The only ones I think could flip are

Indiana-It will defently go Romney however democrats have chance at a senate seat here
NC-This Is tossup.I would say It leans Romney but Obama still has chance here
Florida-with the voter purge we can't be sure how It will go.However Obama Is fighting and Survey USA's likely voter poll of Obama up by 5 Is good news
Missouri-there Is wild chance of a narrow Obama win as part of electoral landslide In part due to weaknes of Romney,and antimorman
sentiment In the state.Between a black man and a Morman some might stay home.

Let's remember Obama can win with just the kerry states+Gore states of Iowa and New Mexico+Nevada and Colorado.Winning Ohio
and Virginia ensures Romney's loss even with a win In Florida.And If he loses Florida with Ohio and Virginia bye bye Romney.

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