Bernie Sanders Raises $24 Million...

[mak3cats]

BURLINGTON, Vt. — Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont raised more than $24 million for his campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination in the last three months, a significant sum that was fueled by a torrid pace of online donations: more than a million so far.

Much more at link:

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/09/30/bernie-sanders-raises-24-million-powered-by-online-donations-exceeding-obamas-2008-pace/

[RufusTFirefly]

1. That's great, but...

... if we make money the measure of Bernie's success, we are certain to lose.

More important is the number of donors, not the amount that they give. After all, one wealthy donor to Bernie's opponent can wipe out 108 hard-earned, heartfelt $25 donations with a single check.

We can't let the media dictate the parameters of the narrative.

Democracy should ultimately come down to who has the most votes, not who has the most money.

Think Outside the Bucks!

[FlatBaroque]

4. Point well taken

However, the money that he is raising is actually funding a burgeoning enterprise. There is a ground game being built in many localities and that is where I suspect Bernie will spend the money, hiring organizers and support staff, and not on pollsters and image consultants. So while he is not at all defines by money, he has to fund his campaign.

[RufusTFirefly]

11. Agreed. Money shouldn't rule or be used as a measurement of success, but...

... a certain amount is necessary to grease the wheels.

However, there are few things more powerful than intrinsic motivation.

A comparison between Microsoft's Encarta and Wikipedia provides a great example.

In the former case, the contributors were well paid. The latter relies primarily on volunteers.

Everyone knows which encyclopedia ultimately triumphed.

[FlatBaroque]

13. Reasonable points

[Marty McGraw]

16. Wow

Is encarta still around. I haven't seen that name since I was using a computer with an 8088 processor

[RufusTFirefly]

20. Case in point. Encarta was discontinued seven years ago.

Stop the presses: Money isn't everything.

[Gabi Hayes]

2. this pretty much sums things up in terms of coverage:

either CNN or MSNBC just ran a short story trumpeting the grass roots implications of Ben Carson's raising twenty million in the last three months, touting the amazing number.

here's what they had to say about Bernie's fundraising for the same time period:

[Fawke Em]

3. GMTA!

We posted at the same time.

I looked before I posted.

Y'all can ignore my similar thread.

[BlueWaveDem]

5. Good numbers for Bernie.

[Fawke Em]

6. I deleted my thread.

Let's all party on this one!

[KoKo]

12. Borrowed the Celebration.....VERY COOL!

[FlatBaroque]

14. Smilies trippin on Molly

Cool.

[Uncle Joe]

7. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, mak3cats.

[beam me up scottie]

8. "More than 76 percent of his donations were $200 or less in the second-quarter"

Mr. Sanders’s advisers said they did not have data yet on the proportion of the donations that were $200 or less — a measure of grass-roots support and of his popularity among Americans who are not wealthy. More than 76 percent of his donations were $200 or less in the second-quarter campaign finance report.

The onslaught of online donations, collected since May, came at a faster clip than the Internet fund-raising operation of President Obama’s 2008 campaign. Mr. Obama did not pass the mark of a million contributions until the Democratic primaries were under way in the winter of 2008, according to Obama fund-raising solicitations at the time. Mr. Sanders has also amassed 650,000 contributors, well more than Mr. Obama had at the comparable point in that campaign cycle.

That includes my donations!

Yes we can make a difference!

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

9. Huh. I'd hoped he was headed for at least a $30 mill quarter.

Sure kicks the stuffing out of that guy that was in here a week or so back proclaiming he'd had an 80 mill quarter, heh. That he had a 'source who is never wrong'.

[WillyT]

10. HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!!

[demwing]

15. We cannot outspend the Kochs - if we try we lose

The way to fight money in politics is by engaging people in politics

[mak3cats]

17. I think one million contributions is a pretty good indication of the level of people engagement...

...good point!

[valerief]

18. And from people not persons!!!! nt

[magical thyme]

19. more than 650,000 individual contributors!

"Mr. Sanders has also amassed 650,000 contributors, well more than Mr. Obama had at the comparable point in that campaign cycle."

[kenn3d]

21. An update. And another perspective on Bernie's fundraising.

And as the deadline loomed to collect third-quarter donations, a new possibility emerged: that by midnight, Sanders might yet outpace Clinton. By around 9 p.m., the Sanders camp already had revised its total once, from $24 million to $25.5 million. And some activists were trying to push the number higher.

Democratic presidential contender Hillary Rodham Clinton pulled in $28 million for her 2016 bid in the third fundraising quarter of the year, just a few million more than insurgent candidate Bernie Sanders and a sharp drop from her record-setting $47.5 million haul in the spring.
While Sanders's fundraising picked up over the summer, helping him collect more than $25.5 million over the last three months, the pace of donations to Clinton's campaign dropped despite a packed fundraising schedule and intense online push for dollars.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/09/30/hillary-clinton-raised-28-million-in-third-quarter-just-edging-out-bernie-sanders/

IOW: Hillary's fundraising fell 42%, and Bernie's rose 70% in the most recent quarter.
In some respects this may be more telling than the polling trends.

[CanadaexPat]

22. And, she raised hers by spending time flying

to fundraisers around the country, while he was out campaigning. According to one report I read her last week was packed with fundraisers, so she basically put all her effort into not coming in lower in fundraising than Bernie did. She can't continue to ignore actual campaigning, which suggests he will take in more than her at some point everything else being the same.