2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIt’s time to treat Bernie Sanders like a real presidential candidate
I snipped four separate paragraphs (none are contiguous); full op-ed at link:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2015/10/01/its-time-to-treat-bernie-sanders-like-a-real-presidential-candidate/
moobu2
(4,822 posts)He's just using the party to give his candidacy some legitimacy it wouldn't have had otherwise.
My brother in law is a nasty right wing republican who ran for Mayor in a Major city as a Democrat just to screw the system up.
That's what Bernie Sanders is doing.
mak3cats
(1,573 posts)...but I'm sure you're not interested. No further comment.
moobu2
(4,822 posts)since he's been in Washington but there isn't that much to look at. Looks like he just introduces bills to get publicity. Z
He's not a Democrat though so I could care less what he's done.
mak3cats
(1,573 posts)That's why something like 40% of the electorate still are not familiar with him!
Like I said, you're not interested. I'll add "in the truth." And NOW, no further comment.
TransitJohn
(6,932 posts)Team Donkey is more important that actual policy and real outcomes in real people's lives here.
jfern
(5,204 posts)moobu2
(4,822 posts)He's been in Washington for more than 20 years and hasn't gotten anything done but a bunch of talking. He's not a member of one of the 2 political party's so how could he do anything.
jfern
(5,204 posts)Major Veterans bill last year
Community health centers in ObamaCare
Amendment king of the House 1995-2006
Plenty of other stuff
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)stuff that was signed into law.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)I should emphasize NOT ALL Democrats....But the 3rd Way/DLC Corporate Democrats who have consistently refused to support, much less fight for, a lot of principles that those "wasted efforts" represent.
You know. "We can"t even get a little version of a public option because those Big Bad Republicans would make us look bad, and we have to placate Joe Lieberman."
Or "I've got a great idea. Let's join the Republicans and remove meaningful regulations on banks and Wall St. That'll work out really good."
Or "Hey let's enthusiastically push for Bush's NAFTA. That'll bring a lot of jobs into the US."
Or the capper "I don't really want to go to War with Iraq. But you know, 9-11, so we have to give George Bush the power to decide to go to war. That'll be great."
Etc.
If all of Congress "wasted their efforts" like Sanders has, we might actually have a solid middle class and opportunities for the poor and a truly competitive and diverse economy.
But noooooooo. We have to listen to Alan Greenspan and out Wall St. Advisors. Screw those Main St. chumps.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)The fact that he is not one of the mainstream establishment party members who have sold out to corporations, makes Bernie appealing to the underground and independents who make up the majority.
He's in it to win it.
Schema Thing
(10,283 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)and you must know that, so please stop with the Bernie-bashing .. trying to "Nader-ize" him
as some kind of "spoiler" like that.
If Bernie HAD run as an independent, he would still be doing quite well, at the expense of the
Democratic party; and Hillary Democrats would be OUTRAGED that he "abandoned" the party
he'd been caucusing with "to guarantee a huge GOP win in the GE"
Please stop this nonsense.
DianeK
(975 posts)and it was a soul search for him to come to that decision...he is very very proud of his independent status but he made the decision to run as a democrat precisely so that he would not become a spoiler
Uncle Joe
(58,282 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)Be glad he isn't.
djean111
(14,255 posts)for the Democratic nomination. Never mind that he caucuses with the Democrats and likely votes with the Democrats more than the DINOs do.
Methinks Bernie was just supposed to herd that pesky and recalcitrant left Wing into the Hillary pen at some point. I doubt it was ever thought he would be this successful. So the knives are out.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)... plain and simple. It's ugly. It's uncalled for. but sadly it was all to predicable, based on 2008.
questionseverything
(9,645 posts)ALL us 99%ers are democrats.....some just do not realize it and vote against their best interests (repubs), thankfully bernie has always supported the democratic values we 99ers need advanced
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Democratic Caucus within the United States Congress, he established this caucus in 1992 and is still a member, the only Senator who is a member.
By way of contrast we have candidate Lincoln Chafee, an insanely rich heir to wealth and Republican power, which he held as a Republican official elected in the Party in which he remained until 2013.
So in 1992, Bernie was founding our largest Caucus and Lincoln was voting for Bush. But your issues are with Bernie. What does that tell us?
jeff47
(26,549 posts)MisterP
(23,730 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)with the people. I WISH we had more Dems like him, and we will be looking for them to replace some of the Dinos we currently have in Congress so that when he wins the WH he has actual Democrats in Congress to help him get his Democratic agenda passed.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)Response to mak3cats (Original post)
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kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)his e-mails, actually talk about his record of achievements or lack thereof, asking about his positions, asking about his big money contributors (there are some, though his supporters and media don't talk about them..wonder why?).
Fearless
(18,421 posts)If you don't however, don't expect a warm welcome.
sibelian
(7,804 posts)... but given the current perspective of the average US citizen on politics and how it's presented in general, I wonder if that might, in fact, be a positive.