2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumVice President Biden: “Listen, I’m not Bernie Sanders.
Listen, Im not Bernie Sanders.
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Speaking to the Concordia Summit on public-private partnerships in New York City, Biden mentioned his potential rival in an aside about lingering issues with the economy.
If you take a look at everyone from the IMF to Standard & Poors, the greatest concern they have about economic growth is the concentration of wealth, Biden said of the International Monetary Fund and the credit ratings agency. Listen, Im not Bernie Sanders. Hes a great guy, by the way. No he really is. Im not a populist. But Im a realist.
The vice president continued by saying that its in the interest of employers to compensate their employees well so they can go out and buy the goods and services their companies produce.
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Xipe Totec
(43,889 posts)Not the duffi that infest company boardrooms and suck every last dollar for themselves before casting the shriveled husks away and moving on to the next victim.
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)Your time has past. Thanks for your service. The banking industry thanks you as well.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)99Forever
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LWolf
(46,179 posts)m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)MuseRider
(34,105 posts)The realists have spoken, we need change.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)Go home, your time has passed.
I am glad though that he admits that he ain't
like Bernie!
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Bernie is 100% pro-choice, anti-death penalty and is just what the country needs now.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)another day. Eg, just weeks ago he passionately talked about the 'corrosive effects of money in politics' and how it should be the #1 issue in this campaign.
He told his audience that they 'have the power to change this and they should make it a priority'.
He went further telling them that even 'guys like me that you may like' shouldn't be trusted with the huge amounts of money in politics.
THAT was being a realist, when he sounded like Bernie, who IS a realist. Now he sounds like the same old status quo, pro Wall St, Pro Corporations, Pro sticking it to the little guy with bills like the Bankruptcy bill.
He's right he is no Bernie Sanders and he's playing games right now, political games, which is exactly what people are sick and tired of.
marym625
(17,997 posts)aikoaiko
(34,169 posts)I remember your push and vote for Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act which made it much more difficult to get out from under credit card debt.
CanadaexPat
(496 posts)Worked well until Reagan ennobled pure greed by companies.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)His bankruptcy bill was one if the worst pieces of legislation to ever be passed. I would never vote for him to be President. "I'm not a populist" ??? Really?
Populist:
:a believer in the rights, wisdom, or virtues of the common people
LettuceSea
(337 posts)Was the compliment not idealistic enough?
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)Please see definition of populist. EVERY politician should be a populist, IMCPO.
Definition of populist in English:
noun
1A member or adherent of a political party seeking to represent the interests of ordinary people
HELLO? What the hell are they elected to do? Sheesh. There's nothing "idealistic" about it.
LettuceSea
(337 posts)And getting angry over it just to prove your point. This is "LITERALLY" Joe Biden we're talking about here! He was just trying to compliment Bernie.
I wish you could see that he's been nothing but complimentary to Bernie and his supporters thus far, but you'd rather not, for some reason. Being constantly argumentative can be an addiction, you know.
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)I never said I'm angry and I know he complimented Bernie. As I said in my first post, which you must have missed, I like Joe. Though, him stating he's not a Populist is just weird. All politicians are sent to Congress to represent WE THE PEOPLE. I see his statement as bizarre, but I'm not angry. See:
LettuceSea
(337 posts)You did say that you liked him personally. Apologies if I misinterpreted the rest.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)LettuceSea
(337 posts)If the VP doesn't run, I want to vote for Bernie. You guys do your best to make it a lot more difficult, though.
Does Bernie act and speak the way you guys do?
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)Real world problems are too important.
LettuceSea
(337 posts)Get upset at me if you want, but when people act uncivil and rigid, it's going to turn a lot of people off. Human nature.
Is it unfair to the candidate? Absolutely. So I encourage the Bernie supporters to not be be the guy who helps perpetuate the stereotypes that will do nothing but hurt Bernie's chances.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Bucky
(53,997 posts)He's treating all employers like a class of citizens rather than as individuals. And, yes, employers as a class of people do have an interest in all wage earners making more money. But, as the Smithian theory of capitalism wisely explains (and Marx ignores) employers do not act as a class.
Let's say current merger trends continue and five years from now all Americans work for a total of 3 corporations. The right view is that it is in the economic interests of Company A for Companies B & C to raise their wages, the interests of Company B for Companies C & A to raise wages, and good for C if companies A & B hike wages. So, yes, all the wealthy will benefit if the working class gets more wages. Knowing this, each company does what it can to benefit itself in the economy--keep its own wages as low as possible while the others increase their pay.
This is why we need a new minimum wage