2016 Postmortem
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Vinca
(50,170 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,705 posts)Chaffee, O'Malley, and Lessig are all polling within the margin of error of one another.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)smilingwen
(52 posts)All the candidates should be allowed to debate. I thought this was supposed to be a democracy. He can't begin to gain support if no one knows who he is. If he doesn't gain support after the debate, then we truly know it's the voters, not the corporate media making the decision.
Mnpaul
(3,655 posts)You do realize that list is quite long:
Brandon Armstrong (South Carolina)
Warren Ashe (Florida)
Howell Astor (North Carolina)
Edie Atkinson-Bukewihge (California)
Sam Bazer (New Jersey)
James Bell (Ohio)
John Blyth (Illinois)
Morrison Bonpasse (Maine)
Meridi Richardson Bosley (Arizona)
Jeff Boss (New Jersey)
Philip Bralich (California)
Harry Braun (Georgia)
Arthur Brooks Jr. (Texas)
Kennedy Brown (Alabama)
Edie Bukewihge (California)
Pamela M. Pinkney Butts (Ohio)
President Emperor Caesar (Florida)
Andy Caffrey (California)
Willie Carter (Texas)
James Chen (California)
Celestino Chora (California)
Brittany Clark (California)
James Casey Collins (Florida)
Stephen Comley (New Hampshire)
Cam Daddy (North Carolina)
Andrew Donelson (Texas)
Kristi Dutton (Arizona)
Larry Ealy (Ohio)
Ronald Emrit (Nevada)
Nicholas Erwin (North Carolina)
John Forsyth (Maine)
Rich Franco (Florida)
Susan Gelber Ott (Virginia)
Gabriel Gomez (Georgia)
Jim Green (Texas)
Quancidine Gribble (North Carolina)
Neil Grimaldi (New York)
Christin Noel Griskie (Florida)
Kristopher Gutierrez (Washington)
Don Hackett Jr. (Florida)
Gerald Hankins (Pennsylvania)
Mark Hardie (California)
Jason Hart (Oklahoma)
Tameika Hawkins (New Jersey)
Charles Hodge (California)
Robbie Hoffman (Wisconsin)
Aidan Johnson (Washington)
Kyrstal Johnson (Alabama)
Larry E. Johnson (Colorado)
Kelby Jones (Arizona)
Gayle Jones-Taylor (California)
Keith Judd (Texas)
Cody Judy (Utah)
Glenn Kaminsky (California)
Mohammed Keita (New York)
Lloyd Kelso (North Carolina)
Jonathan Lavigne (West Virginia)
James "Titus The Great" Law (California)
Lawrence Lessig (Massachusetts)
Matthew Linder (California)
Ryan Lipner (Florida)
Star Locke (Texas)
Colin Mackintosh (Illinois)
Paddington Massey (Arkansas)
L.R. "Skip" Maul Jr. (Arizona)
Jeremy McKeen (Massachusetts)
Michael McMenemy (Pennsylvania)
Sherry Meadows (Texas)
Lee Mercer Jr. (Tennessee)
Daniel "Tool" Michaels (Florida)
Loretta "Leah Lax" Miller (Pennsylvania)
David Mills (West Virginia)
Rome Murphy II (New Jersey)
James Ogle III (California)
Daniel Owens (Oregon)
Harry Pavilack (South Carolina)
Cathy Johnson Pendleton (Maryland)
Margie Penn (Tennessee)
Angus Perkins (Texas)
Michel Powell (South Carolina)
Bob Pribble (Florida)
Mary Aku Quartey (Maryland)
John Raffone (Florida)
Lee Rhodes (New York)
Russ Rohrbacker (Colorado)
Stephen Rush (California)
Doug Schreffler (California)
Will Schroeder (Illinois)
Angelo Scrigna (Hawaii)
Jerome Singleton Jr. (Louisiana)
Nicholas Sopkovich (California)
Michael Steinberg (Florida)
Michele Ann Jones Touchettgess (District of Columbia)
Ray Uhric (Pennsylvania)
John Walsh III (Pennsylvania)
Richard Weil (Colorado)
Robby Wells (North Carolina)
Elaine Williams (Florida)
Lanine Wilson (Maryland)
Willie Wilson (Illinois)
Jeffrey Windett (West Virginia)
Brad Winslow (California)
Thomas Winterbottom (Pennsylvania)
John Worldpeace (New Mexico)
Susan Young (California)
and those are just the Democrats
http://www.politics1.com/p2016.htm
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)It's astonishing how many people are running, and how many different parties there are.
But anyone who has one and only one thing to do as President is simply not a serious candidate and doesn't deserve serious consideration by anyone.
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)Some of them are pretty funny & cool. One candidate says she's 'the founder of the human rights movement.'
Metric System
(6,048 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,705 posts)It was a surreal experience.
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)Thanks.
last1standing
(11,709 posts)He has declared as a Democrat and polls comparably with others who will be on the stage.
That said, I'd vote Green before voting for a guy who says that he'll step down as soon as Citizens United is overturned. That shows me he has no real interest in running the country or helping to resolve its many issues.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)You'll need to ask Debbie Downer why, if he isn't. She seems to hold the reins of the Democratic Party now.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)And Debbie Downer thinks we are idiots.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)magical thyme
(14,881 posts)putting 100 people into the debates would be better? Completely unworkable and useless, imo.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)That should go without saying.
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)magical thyme
(14,881 posts)Has he reached 1% support yet? Chafee mostly polls at zero. I suspect he polls at zero as well.
tritsofme
(17,325 posts)If anything the criteria is already too broad, I don't think the inclusion of candidates like Webb, Chafee, possibly others, whose support is statistically insignificant, is really necessary.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)Democratic candidates must earn at least 1% in three national polls in the six weeks before the debate. His criticism is centered on the fact that not all candidates who announce they are running are included in national polls.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_presidential_debates,_2016
http://2016.democratic-candidates.org/
http://2016.republican-candidates.org/#Declared-Republican-Candidates
FWIW, the GOP also has more than a dozen candidates I never heard of who also are not included in any of the polls.
mmonk
(52,589 posts)concerning debate criteria.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)I think he's correct and deserves to be heard. However, in his specific case, I'd say no because he is not a committed candidate.
In addition to being under any conceivable statistical threshold, he's not running for the job. He has said as much. His sole purpose is to run to make a point, and if he were to win said he would focus on one goal -- campaign finance reform -- and then quit.
In 2000, I thought Nader should have been allowed in. But he ran as a candidate for president.
MineralMan
(146,192 posts)He has no chance of getting the nomination, so it doesn't matter to me.
Faux pas
(14,583 posts)balls to run, they should be able to debate. DWS=