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GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
3. but Trump stomped the rest of them
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 09:55 AM
Oct 2015

It is not like they polled with Huckabee vs Sanders, or Scott Walker vs Sanders

RandySF

(58,770 posts)
4. I've seen this movie more times than I can count.
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 10:00 AM
Oct 2015

The GOP will choose someone from the establishment. I think Jeb! or Rubio will be it.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
13. Bush is their choice for sure, just as Hillary the Dem choice. They will TRY to make it
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 11:14 AM
Oct 2015

happen to protect THEIR interests, These powerful forces that control our elections will be difficult to defeat.

But the people are more energized now against them than ever before.

As Biden said recently 'you do have the power to defeat those who are controlling our system' when he spoke about the 'corrosive effects of money on our political system'.



 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
5. of course polls are irrelevant when your opposition isn't faring as well against the GOP frontrunner
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 10:01 AM
Oct 2015


btw, the latest national poll, NBC/WSJ, has Bernie up 16 over Trump. The trend continues.

karynnj

(59,501 posts)
7. I missed it too -- impressive that Bernie has an average of slightly above 50%
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 10:05 AM
Oct 2015

There were many polls that have shown that HRC was at 50% or above, but this is the first time I have seen a national poll that puts Sanders above 50% in the general against their leading candidate.

This and other polls showing him competitive or beating Republicans are important for both the obvious reason (you want the Democrat beating the Republican, but - even if HRC is further ahead - it counters the argument that he is not electable.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
9. and yet HRC is not further ahead and doesn't make 50%
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 10:08 AM
Oct 2015

Using the normal definition of "is," Bernie IS electable.

karynnj

(59,501 posts)
11. That is interesting - especially if it is the case in other polls
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 10:21 AM
Oct 2015

After posting that, there is a thread that contains interesting polls for Iowa and NH that show that Sanders does better than HRC against Trump, Bush and Fiorina. http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251648332

These are interesting results from two states that have been paying the most attention.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
14. There was a poll from Utah also, I think I may have posted it, where Bernie
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 11:18 AM
Oct 2015

beats Trump by 20 points, AND the next Repub, Carson also. As the article said, Trump 'does better against Hillary'.

Another from WV airc, about a month ago showed Bernie doing well in that state also.

In nearly every poll against Repubs, Bernie does better than anyone else.

So much for the 'he can't win the GE' nonsense.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
10. Beats him with large numbers in other polls also.
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 10:20 AM
Oct 2015

I hope Trump is the nominee, Bernie will win in a landslide.

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
12. I do too
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 10:34 AM
Oct 2015

Trump as GOP Nominee Vs Bernie as democratic nominee allowes us to have 2 partys.I doudt anyone will say no difference between
bernie or trump.It allowes in debate the perfect contrest between Trump poster child for top 1 % VS Bernie who can't be bought and who works for the 99%

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