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Do you think this place will implode on the Democratic debate night? (Original Post) trumad Oct 2015 OP
Yes. greatauntoftriplets Oct 2015 #1
No Autumn Oct 2015 #2
I wouldn't be surprised to see a couple of Walt Starr moments.... mike_c Oct 2015 #3
Just Asking Questions Capt. Obvious Oct 2015 #4
Not for me, I have most of the nasties on ignore. demmiblue Oct 2015 #5
DU would not be a good place to be--unless you have Bernie colored glasses Evergreen Emerald Oct 2015 #22
Thanks for the reminder. TexasTowelie Oct 2015 #6
It has been imploding already, probably will be worse. Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #7
There will still be the male female rivalry going on. And no one will convince the other. LiberalArkie Oct 2015 #8
I am planning to have my first ever debate watch party. oldandhappy Oct 2015 #9
Yes. Chan790 Oct 2015 #10
I rather doubt that many, if any, minds will be changed on DU. But, it should be entertaining. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #11
I won't be here. LWolf Oct 2015 #12
You mean worse than it has been the last 3 days??? Number23 Oct 2015 #13
In other words: you dislike Bernie and love Hillary. We get it. Nt Logical Oct 2015 #15
Thank you for so perfectly demonstrating EXACTLY the kind of behavior that's being discussed Number23 Oct 2015 #16
Funny how you only listed the Bernie stuff that is happening! Lol! Nt Logical Oct 2015 #18
If the implosion's all on one side then it is what it is. Number23 Oct 2015 #20
Lol, ok! Nt Logical Oct 2015 #21
Sad face artislife Oct 2015 #19
lol - thanks, this thread was getting depressing senz Oct 2015 #27
And where your candidate is the "newcomer" after spending almost 30 yrs in congress, lunamagica Oct 2015 #32
Yeah, all that too. Surreal is definitely a great word for this place lately Number23 Oct 2015 #34
"Surreal Life: DU Edition." nt Jamaal510 Oct 2015 #35
Ha! But that's a show that nobody would actually watch. Number23 Oct 2015 #41
I usually Jamaal510 Oct 2015 #60
Yeah. And then these same people then haunt and stalk the forums they've driven everybody to Number23 Oct 2015 #64
LOL. It's been crazy 'round these parts lately. Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #53
Reality bites workinclasszero Oct 2015 #68
"This restaurant is terrible! And, the portions are so small!" Warren DeMontague Oct 2015 #36
And I never cease to be amazed by people who have been openly and REPEATEDLY asked to leave Number23 Oct 2015 #42
it's a discussion forum. I never understand the whole "you're not allowed to talk to me!" Warren DeMontague Oct 2015 #50
And I don't understand people who complain EVERY FUCKING CHANCE THEY GET about Number23 Oct 2015 #58
you seem tense. Warren DeMontague Oct 2015 #59
I totally agree with the personality defect, as in RiffRandell Oct 2015 #61
I see your adorable little winking pumpkin and raise you a big scary one Number23 Oct 2015 #63
I don't scare too easily. RiffRandell Oct 2015 #66
That's the thing about pumpkins. No matter how scary they fancy themselves to be Warren DeMontague Oct 2015 #74
Your pet peeve is yours to enjoy Trajan Oct 2015 #51
Not sure what you're talking about or how your post in any way relates to mine but Number23 Oct 2015 #57
Hillary will have a bad night I think. Nt Logical Oct 2015 #14
DU will lock up.. posting overload. DCBob Oct 2015 #17
It's going to be one hella long night for someone, that much is certain. cherokeeprogressive Oct 2015 #23
Yep... one_voice Oct 2015 #44
Yep... one_voice Oct 2015 #47
Won't be here, going to a Bernie watch party marlakay Oct 2015 #24
Am thinking of doing the same. senz Oct 2015 #28
We are going to a watch party... MrMickeysMom Oct 2015 #31
I quit drinking coffee 2 1/2 years ago Aerows Oct 2015 #25
I'd love to have a DU gathering somewhere for the debate arcane1 Oct 2015 #26
2nd good laugh tonight! senz Oct 2015 #30
My guess is that the network will do such a bad job of giving Bernie any camera time that we will CentralMass Oct 2015 #29
I won't be home. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2015 #33
No. The day after Super Tuesday hack89 Oct 2015 #37
Let's say that happens.... trumad Oct 2015 #38
That will be an interesting day indeed. DanTex Oct 2015 #39
3/2. Black Wednesday. oasis Oct 2015 #43
That's what they said about Obama in 2007 Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2015 #45
If only Bernie was polling like Obama was. nt hack89 Oct 2015 #48
??? Fawke Em Oct 2015 #54
Obama had the money and organization to run a national campaign hack89 Oct 2015 #55
I think that Sanders supporters will think he won the debate. MineralMan Oct 2015 #40
I think you got it exactly right. Unless there is(are) some kind of major gaffe(s) Persondem Oct 2015 #46
I doubt there will be any serious gaffes. MineralMan Oct 2015 #49
MM you must be psychic! workinclasszero Oct 2015 #69
It's really a no-brainer. MineralMan Oct 2015 #70
I don't think debates workinclasszero Oct 2015 #71
this is nothing compared to 2008 JI7 Oct 2015 #52
I will be at an event watching the debate and will resist checking in here until late that night Gothmog Oct 2015 #56
DU has been imploding at least since the primaries began. nt Jamaal510 Oct 2015 #62
Yes, which is why I probably won't come here. n/t MoonRiver Oct 2015 #65
Prediction: O'Malley will get the biggest boost. McCamy Taylor Oct 2015 #67
Everyone will see what they want to see frazzled Oct 2015 #72
Dunno, but it will be defcon a zillion. hifiguy Oct 2015 #73

demmiblue

(36,841 posts)
5. Not for me, I have most of the nasties on ignore.
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 07:51 PM
Oct 2015

As far as it going decfon, I think the admins are probably ahead of that possibility.

Evergreen Emerald

(13,069 posts)
22. DU would not be a good place to be--unless you have Bernie colored glasses
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 11:10 PM
Oct 2015

otherwise it would be too venomous.

TexasTowelie

(112,118 posts)
6. Thanks for the reminder.
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 07:58 PM
Oct 2015

The forum hosts will need to put up a notice that threads about the debate should be directed towards GDP rather than GD.

LiberalArkie

(15,713 posts)
8. There will still be the male female rivalry going on. And no one will convince the other.
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 08:20 PM
Oct 2015

Although if someone does change sides, maybe DU should give a gold star to who ever that person is. I don't think it will happen though.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
9. I am planning to have my first ever debate watch party.
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 08:23 PM
Oct 2015

I hope we have lots of chatter and laughs and nibbles. No implosion anticipated, smile.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
11. I rather doubt that many, if any, minds will be changed on DU. But, it should be entertaining.
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 09:07 PM
Oct 2015

More so than the usual tweedle-dum vs tweedle-dee debates in past primary debates.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
12. I won't be here.
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 09:19 PM
Oct 2015

I can't watch the debate at the computer; it's a desktop, I've no wi-fi, and the tv is at the other end of the house.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
13. You mean worse than it has been the last 3 days???
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 10:50 PM
Oct 2015


GD-P: Where endorsements don't matter when they come from politicians or labor groups, only when they come from Facebook. And the number of people who show up at your rallies are the REAL endorsements and are somehow infinitely more important than your ranking in the polls, particularly with minority communities.

It is even more embarassing than usual around here. And damn, that is TRULY saying something.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
16. Thank you for so perfectly demonstrating EXACTLY the kind of behavior that's being discussed
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 10:53 PM
Oct 2015

And without even having to be asked, either! But I don't think that any of you ever have to.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
32. And where your candidate is the "newcomer" after spending almost 30 yrs in congress,
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 11:52 PM
Oct 2015

where the fact that "no one has heard of him" after all those years is an asset -and best of all- a poll where he tops at 20%, and "undecided" polls higher than he does, is seen as a huge victory and cause for a great celebration

It's just surreal...

Number23

(24,544 posts)
41. Ha! But that's a show that nobody would actually watch.
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 06:23 PM
Oct 2015

And another implosion angle is the people who never have anything interesting or intelligent to say, who do nothing all day but chase after everyone who says something they disagree with. Sad people who are drawn to you like flies to sweet, sweet honey, even after you've asked then a half dozen times to leave you alone.

They simply CANNOT resist responding to you. It's like you are catnip.

(And I'm not in any way talking about you, Jamaal.)

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
60. I usually
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 01:07 AM
Oct 2015

have stayed out of it for the most part so I haven't really gotten bothered. I don't have the patience for the back-and-forths, and I'm not confrontational like that. But I've been watching from the sideline how you and other posters have been harassed (and in some cases, driven to other forums) for supporting someone other than you-know-who and for simply providing links and quotes, and it looks doubtful that the admins will do much to solve the problem anytime soon. Maybe it will get better once the primaries end. Who knows...

Number23

(24,544 posts)
64. Yeah. And then these same people then haunt and stalk the forums they've driven everybody to
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 06:33 PM
Oct 2015

ie the AA forum or this Hillary supporters web site that everyone is baying at the moon over with all of this INCREDIBLE "concern" over all the terrible awful things they're posting there!

And what's so stupid is that I am very much undecided at this point and I've said that more than once. But that's not even really the point. The point is very simple to me -- someone asks you REPEATEDLY to leave them alone, you do it. You just fucking do it. This is not hard. And to keep insisting that it's simply an accident or whatever that you have to keep responding to someone who has asked you several times to leave them alone is the epitome of someone with no decency, home training, social skills or worse.

Even if the admins don't do anything about any of this (and it's pretty clear by now they aren't going to and things won't get better after the primaries, Jamaal. The crowd that was anti-Obama before he was sworn in has shit on him every day since) common decency is pretty crystal clear on this. Even on a public message board, people have the right to ask you to leave them the hell alone, especially when it's clear that your "responses" to them are never the slightest bit intelligent or interesting, but intended to only harass and try to intimidate. To be asked repeatedly to stop and to refuse says everything that needs to be said about the person engaging in this behavior. And the fact that this is not anywhere near the first time this has happened to me and that in every instance it's been someone I've found to be absolutely revolting and been ECSTATIC to not be on the same side of any issue on lets me know I must be doing something right.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
36. "This restaurant is terrible! And, the portions are so small!"
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 04:45 AM
Oct 2015

The extent to which people who've hung around this place for 5, 10 years or more can expound on how miserably awful it is, never ceases to amaze.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
42. And I never cease to be amazed by people who have been openly and REPEATEDLY asked to leave
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 06:27 PM
Oct 2015

someone alone and they simply refuse to do so. Hundreds and hundreds of posters here and they simply CANNOT leave the one person who has told them to shove off alone. Blissfully unaware of how ummm... "unwell" that makes them look.

I think that is far more indicative of some serious personality defects than any other behavior here and is certainly much, much worse than someone who posts on a message board about how bizarre so much of the bizarre behavior is. If my "5, 7" years of "complaining" (and it's so precious how you've apparently kept up with so many of my posts -- for YEARS apparently -- when I've never paid you the slightest bit of attention) about DU is so "miserably awful" to you, here's a tip honey, YOU DON'T HAVE TO READ IT. And you sure as shit don't have to keep responding to me.

It's like Brokeback Mountain. I wish I knew how to get you to "quit me" but considering the feeling is by NO MEANS reciprocated, I think you'll have to work on that by yourself.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
50. it's a discussion forum. I never understand the whole "you're not allowed to talk to me!"
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 08:00 PM
Oct 2015

Jesus, Get a grip.

If I bother you that much, put me on ignore. That's how you do it.

Otherwise you have no "right" to demand I not respond to your public posts.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
58. And I don't understand people who complain EVERY FUCKING CHANCE THEY GET about
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 09:26 PM
Oct 2015

what specific individuals on this web site post. Particularly specific individuals who have made it abundantly clear that they have no interest in anything they've had to say ever about anything and have asked them -- REPEATEDLY -- to leave them alone.

You are obviously the one with the problem here. So you either put ME on ignore or just leave me the hell alone. This is really not hard. And FYI, if anybody needs to get a "grip" here, it's the person panting endlessly after the posts of another poster despite being asked a half dozen times now to leave them alone, and not the one doing the asking.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
59. you seem tense.
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 09:45 PM
Oct 2015

Again, you post something, other people respond. That's how it works. I'm not sitting here flippin' out because you respond to my stuff.

You seem to think there's some rule here that people can just demand that certain other people never talk to them, or avoid them, or something. It doesn't work that way. The ignore function is how people get to pick who they want to listen to or not.

I don't, actually, know you from Adam, but even a couple weeks ago when I posted in response to something you said - without even giving half a thought to your username or whatever- your response was, essentially, what are YOU doing, talking to me?



guess my reputation precedes me, or something.

As for the point in question, there is a gaggle of people who have seemingly made it their mission to complain about this place, almost from the first minute it came online-- Your post reminded me of that. Yet they hang around. I don't understand it, but I think it's funny.

And when I see something that I think is funny, I comment on it.

RiffRandell

(5,909 posts)
61. I totally agree with the personality defect, as in
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 03:47 AM
Oct 2015

'I'm taking DU way too seriously!' which I cannot take credit for that analysis.

Halloween is coming, and the OP reminded me of Shakespeare:

Double, double toil and trouble;
Fire burn, and caldron bubble.





Number23

(24,544 posts)
63. I see your adorable little winking pumpkin and raise you a big scary one
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 06:17 PM
Oct 2015


Stuff of nightmares, huh??

You should do a Google search on "scary Halloween pumpkin." There are some WILDLY imaginative ones out there. Some incredibly creative and scary people with alot of time for carving, apparently.

RiffRandell

(5,909 posts)
66. I don't scare too easily.
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 09:56 AM
Oct 2015

Nice try though.

I will admit it's quite ugly!

We always carve our pumpkins without the help of Google and they are quite original and popular in our neighborhood.

Happy Halloween!

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
74. That's the thing about pumpkins. No matter how scary they fancy themselves to be
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 08:12 PM
Oct 2015

They just can't seem to age gracefully!

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
51. Your pet peeve is yours to enjoy
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 08:25 PM
Oct 2015

We all have our own here, and they're no less important to us as yours may be to you ...

Cest la vie ...

marlakay

(11,451 posts)
24. Won't be here, going to a Bernie watch party
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 11:21 PM
Oct 2015

I highly advise others do the same. Better to be proactive and meet people we can work with than to argue with each other.

I just moved so using this to find like minded dems in the area.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
28. Am thinking of doing the same.
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 11:38 PM
Oct 2015

Can't think of a nicer crowd to be with (except, of course, the Bernie Group here).

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
31. We are going to a watch party...
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 11:50 PM
Oct 2015

and looking forward to it. These folks in a nearby part of the county also want to walk downtown on a Saturday to talk about voting and Bernie Sanders.

Good place to go, mariakay.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
25. I quit drinking coffee 2 1/2 years ago
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 11:21 PM
Oct 2015

so that I could work up to quitting smoking. I'm solid as a rock on both.

I *will* tell you that I expect the place to continue unabated, and that MIRT will be doing their normal job behind the scenes to keep the place in order.

There will likely be some hard feelings, some passionate disagreements, and some bitter words. Through it all, though, our community will forge ahead, just as it always has.

My two cents.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
26. I'd love to have a DU gathering somewhere for the debate
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 11:22 PM
Oct 2015

Which has the added side-effect of not being on DU that night

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
29. My guess is that the network will do such a bad job of giving Bernie any camera time that we will
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 11:39 PM
Oct 2015

have to tune into BernieTv just to see him

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
38. Let's say that happens....
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 09:29 AM
Oct 2015

It will be very interesting to see what happens to Bernie Underground.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
39. That will be an interesting day indeed.
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 09:38 AM
Oct 2015

On a personal note, finally something we agree on!



Actually, we probably agree on most stuff, just that the couple places we disagree keep coming up...

hack89

(39,171 posts)
55. Obama had the money and organization to run a national campaign
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 08:47 PM
Oct 2015

Bernie has plateaued and has shown no ability to energize POC so Super Tuesday is the end of the line for him. He cannot get the voter demographic that carried Obama to the White House.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
40. I think that Sanders supporters will think he won the debate.
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 09:42 AM
Oct 2015

Clinton supporters will think she won.
O'Malley supporters will think he won and will express surprise that everyone doesn't recognize that.

That's why I'm going to watch the debate and let DU take care of itself that day. I'll probably avoid GD the next day, too. What DU thinks about the debate is meaningless in terms of the overall primary race.

Persondem

(1,936 posts)
46. I think you got it exactly right. Unless there is(are) some kind of major gaffe(s)
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 06:48 PM
Oct 2015

all sides will have positives to cheer about.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
49. I doubt there will be any serious gaffes.
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 07:49 PM
Oct 2015

The candidates have long experience with public speaking. People's opinions of debates always seem to reflect their opinions prior to the debates. That's why I don't see them as very influential. Democratic candidates are rather similar in their positions, really. I do it any minds will be changed, frankly.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
71. I don't think debates
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 02:35 PM
Oct 2015

change anyone's mind except the undecided I guess.

Most people that are into politics have picked their candidate a long time ago.

I can't imagine Bernie saying anything that would make me change my vote.

Getting those undecided/not really interested in politics people to sit down and actually watch a debate is the trick.

Gothmog

(145,129 posts)
56. I will be at an event watching the debate and will resist checking in here until late that night
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 09:07 PM
Oct 2015

Hopefully things will have calmed down

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
72. Everyone will see what they want to see
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 04:01 PM
Oct 2015

Everyone will insist their candidate "won." Everything will remain the same. (That is to say, pretty nasty.)

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
73. Dunno, but it will be defcon a zillion.
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 04:21 PM
Oct 2015

Election night 2008 just about crashed the servers as I recall.

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