Iowa, NH Focus Groups Show Bernie Support--Morning JOE/Bloomberg

[KoKo]

Very interesting Segment on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" of Iowa/New Hampshire Focus Groups on Bernie, Clinton and Biden. This is the Bernie Segment and worth it to see the Comments at End by Joe, Mika and Bloomberg Politics Halperin and Heilemann recognition of Bernie as a Serious Candidate who cannot be counted out because he has the Obama "Yes We Can" Momentum! Great Commentary to hear for us Bernie Supporters

Participants tell Bloomberg Politics' Mark Halperin and John Heilemann (Bloomberg Politics/"All Due Respect&quot what they like about Bernie Sanders]

The focus groups were organized by independent polling firm Purple Strategies. Participants came from the Manchester, New Hampshire, and Des Moines, Iowa, areas and represented a variety of ages and socio-economic and educational backgrounds. They agreed to be quoted without their last names. Qualitative research results cannot be statistically analyzed or projected onto the broader population at large. As is customary, respondents were compensated for their participation.

VIDEO OF FOCUS GROUP WITH COMMENTS BY PANEL AT THE END Duration: 4:53 at...........

http://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/iowa--nh-focus-groups-show-bernie-support-540040259537

[Hortensis]

1. I don't watch Joe but this is at least the second Bernie mention

this week, right?

[KoKo]

5. Don't know. I rarely watch "MJ" but caught it by accident this this a.m.

But, I do watch "All Due Respect" on Bloomberg and so found it interesting that Mark Halperin and John Heilemann had done the Focus Groups and their comments at the end were so positive about Bernie. I thought that was unusual for them.

[Hortensis]

6. Hm. If I remember, I'll watch tomorrow and see if they promote or

just mention him. In any case, it sounds like he's breaking the media barrier. A lot of media people take cues from Joe.

[KoKo]

11. They said he'd be their guest on show tomorrow...

so I'm going to see how it goes.

[Hortensis]

12. Oh, for sure I'll watch but pre- chalk it up to a promote. Thanks.

[Dustlawyer]

29. I have to say that I am a Bernie supporter first, but I think MSNBC is starting to talk about Bernie

for ratings of course, but also to stop Hillary. This is the same network that has been all Donald Trump 24/7, way more than Fox or even CNN. They are definitely playing games trying to affect the outcomes.

For now I couldn't be happier with their positive reporting on Bernie, but they could turn in an instant. I would like to see Bernie elected and one of the things I want him to do is to push to bust up the media oligopolies and require truth in news with the news not able to hide under an "entertainment" label.

[Hortensis]

31. Absolutely break up the media oligopolies. Not sure how to require "truth"

in programs categorized as "news," but since so many people swallow labels whole, it sounds worth looking into.

As for Bernie, enjoy. That was Obama's role initially, and look how well that worked for them.

[Dustlawyer]

32. They used to do it by due diligence and more than one source.

Now they just make up whatever they want. In the case Fox news won on Appeal, they knew the story was false, but they got the verdict overturned because Fox News is not news, it's "Entertainment."

[1StrongBlackMan]

2. Take a good look at the groups ...

and who said what ... even in its highly edited form.

[KoKo]

4. Here's the Full Report from "Bloomberg Politics" (Whole thing is Good Watch)

Democratic voters tell Bloomberg Politics' Mark Halperin and John Heilemann why they're worried about Clinton, what they like about Bernie Sanders.
Kendall Breitman

With voters from both early states lukewarm toward Clinton, cool on Biden, and unimpressed if not completely unaware of O'Malley, the door seems to be opening for Sanders. Likely voters in both states described the 74-year-old senator as “exciting,” “interesting,” “knowledgable,” and “a visionary.” Alec, a fitness consultant from Iowa, called the socialist a “game changer.” “The little guy matters, you know, so I think he’s talking to people like me,” he said.

Both focus groups expressed an interest in Sanders’s strong rhetoric about income inequality and a respect for his knack for raising large amounts of campaign contributions through small donors. “I think it shows broader appeal,” said Joe, a project manager from New Hampshire.

The focus groups were organized by independent polling firm Purple Strategies. Participants came from the Manchester, New Hampshire, and Des Moines, Iowa, areas and represented a variety of ages and socio-economic and educational backgrounds. They agreed to be quoted without their last names. Qualitative research results cannot be statistically analyzed or projected onto the broader population at large. As is customary, respondents were compensated for their participation.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-10-07/bloomberg-focus-groups-iowa-new-hampshire-democrats-not-sold-on-hillary-clinton-or-joe-biden

For much more from Bloomberg Politics’ Democratic focus groups, watch With All Due Respect on Bloomberg TV and BloombergPolitics.com Wednesday at 5 p.m. ET, and come back to Bloomberg Politics on Thursday for Republican focus group results.

[1StrongBlackMan]

7. I'll probably miss the airing; but, this post doesn't speak to me earlier post ...

look at the composition of the groups and (in the, presumably, Iowa group) who said what.

[KoKo]

9. You can watch the Video snips Of all Candidates at Bloomberg link and read the commentary

though. It's up now at the link. It has the Clinton & Biden Focus Group Segments. Different selection of people in the different Focus Groups.

[1StrongBlackMan]

10. I did watch the snippets ...

About 18 people (between the 2 groups). 16 white. Of the two Black (women) Members, neither appeared supportive of Bernie. Completely consistent. Nothing new.

[Uncle Joe]

13. I believe there was one black man at the 4:53 mark that supported Sanders, of the two

two black women one supported Hillary and the other said Hillary or Bernie.

[1StrongBlackMan]

16. The heavier set guy in the Blue shirt? ... Not Black. n/t

[Uncle Joe]

19. Perhaps he's Samoan but he didn't look "lily white."

To make a correction to my earlier post it was about the 1:00 mark, not 4:53.

[artislife]

37. Brown people

unless you are Selma Hayak, then you matter not so much.

[Hortensis]

14. Nothing indicative of other states, of course. Once they leave whiteland

(92% white in Iowa, 3.4% black, New Hampshire 94% and 1.5%) for the REAL real America, it'll get less boring and more real.

[1StrongBlackMan]

17. Don't call it "whiteland" ...

Making that observation will get you branded a racist!

[Hortensis]

20. I'm white and it's certainly truer than "real America." Should I worry anyway? :)

Seriously, how does requiring our candidates to suck up to two very unrepresentative electorates until February affect the national dialog? We really need to fix this, even if almost no one is paying attention yet.

[1StrongBlackMan]

22. Agreed ...

There was an OP, awhile back, that asked the question of what issues would be addressed and what campaigns would look like if the first primaries were held in California and Mississippi or New York and Georgia?

I think it everything would be completely different.

[KoKo]

23. Agree there is a problem that Iowa and NH kick off, these days...

They haven't been particularly good signals for the winner the past few decades. Then add in Nevada which is mostly Mormon and it seems unfair.

I remember some talk in the DNC after Kerry Election about changing the early states primaries to make for more diversity but it didn't seem to go anywhere.

[Uncle Joe]

18. It will become more indicative, the trillion dollar question is, what will that mean

come election time?

How Bernie Sanders is reaching out to black voters. Is it working?

(snip)

"I also know that there is an enormous amount of disgust in the African-American community with regards to certain police departments. We need to demilitarize local police departments so that they do not look like occupying armies. We want police departments that look like the communities they are serving," he added.

There are signs that his outreach could be working.

Back in June, a Suffolk University/USA Today poll showed that only 2 percent of black respondents would be willing to vote for Sanders in the primaries, and 77 percent would support Hillary Clinton.

By Oct. 1, support for Mrs. Clinton had plummeted – among black respondents she was down 37 points, to 40 percent – and Sanders was up 15 points to 17 percent, according to the poll.

And Sanders' favorability rating among black respondents in the Suffolk University/USA Today poll had risen 42 percentage points since July.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/USA-Update/2015/1006/How-Bernie-Sanders-is-reaching-out-to-black-voters.-Is-it-working

[Hortensis]

21. I don't want a shift to someone I feel can't win, but it's no surprise

that Bernie may be doing better on second, or first perhaps, look.

[Uncle Joe]

24. I understand your feelings, Hortensis and that's precisely why I support Bernie and not Hillary,

but not just because I don't believe Hillary will win.

Even if (and that's a big if) Hillary did win, the election would be about personality, not so much the issues, the Republicans greatly hate her, that would spark a large turnout on their end and the balance of power will remain roughly the same.

However if Bernie wins despite not having big money, and the status quo establishment backing him, that would be a crystal clear mandate from the people, the powers that be couldn't deny it and the reverberations would shake Washington D.C. to the core, as a result Bernie would have long, strong coat tails and the balance of power in Congress and the state level would greatly shift to the Democratic Party.

[Hortensis]

26. I remember how the Dems "rolled" in the face of the overwhelming

Reagan "mandate" from the electorate. They held the House but at least initially gave the GOP everything it wanted. At least that's my memory from long ago. It'd be lovely to experience it from the winning side.

[Uncle Joe]

27. I'm convinced that Bernie stands the best chance of reversing the toxic legacy

of Reaganomics both the economic and racial aspects.

No matter the format, the message is the same.

[Hortensis]

38. Bernie may have gotten a big boost on Morning Joe today.

I watched it. Ohmygosh. Before Bernie was a lengthy segment on conservative focus groups explaining with dreadful sincerity why their choices for president were Donald Trump and Ben Carson respectively, but NOT JeBush! I swear those calm, well behaved...people actually made our very zealous DC-P crowd look good to me. At least in comparison. Stepford Wives pre- religious fascism versus torch waving populists, maybe, but the latter are following a good leader and don't actually scare me.

Joe was horrified and appalled at their "reasoning," as any sensible person would be, and it was the perfect set-up to show off Bernie's clarity and purpose.

Joe's still humping hard for a third Bush administration and totally frustrated at what he sees as Bush's incompetent campaign. There was even some sincere-sounding admission of Bernie's appeal to some conservatives. I'm guessing Joe's really envying the other side, poor baby.

[tex-wyo-dem]

30. I totally agree with you, Uncle Joe!

A Bernie presidency would be a powerful rejection of status quo, establishment, big-money, corporate endorsed politics, and a stunning warning to the business-as-usual corruption crowd running Washington that their time is coming to an end.

[askew]

3. There was some real lackluster support for Hillary in that group.

I find it interesting that people still have no idea who O'Malley is. Imagine if we had the 2007-08 debate schedule. He might actually have some traction in the polls.

[KoKo]

8. Agree about O'Malley. Maybe in the Debates he will get some more interest.

Maybe the Biden "Will He....Won't He" hurt O'Malley. Hillary has her organization and Bernie had the support of those of us organized who were Warren supporters so both already had organization. O'Malley didn't seem to have any way to get attention.

[Hortensis]

35. THAT group would be dissing O'Malley big time too. "Lackluster support"

of Democrats balanced heavily by criticism is all that is allowed in Morning Joe regulars -- if they want to appear on Joe again, and on most MSNBC shows.

In a maneuver I haven't seen since Obama first appeared on the horizon, though, the Joe crew is extravagantly impressed with Bernie -- Joe is "feeling the Bern" from "rock star" Bernie Sanders, along with "other conservatives" even. Joe completely opposes Bernie's platform, but no mention of that. Bernie was spared the dissing candidates who worry them get. Oh, yeah -- it's official. Bernie's now their chosen left-handed tool to defeat the Democrats in 2016.

I thought Bernie did quite nicely. They gave him lots of time to state his positions and he used it, and them, well. His hair looked very nice too.

[Hortensis]

15. Biden MUST be hurting O'Malley. People who want a tall white male

Democrat know Biden's name. Apparently trumps the heck out of actually declaring for president.

[Gloria]

25. They also liked Clinton

Of course, the woman interviewer went breathlessly to liability stuff...

Ass

[Perogie]

28. Go Bernie!!!

[KoKo]

33. Yep! He's Done Good and Getting Better and Better!

[Fawke Em]

34. K & R