Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 03:54 PM Oct 2015

We are winning, and we will keep pushing until most Americans agree with "wealth redistribution."

The absurdity of 200,000,000 adults working and barely being able to pay their bills, 50 million people in poverty, and 20,000,000 of them children, while 3 or 4 million people vacuum up all the assets for themselves - and really it's just a few thousand that are monopolizing all the wealth - in what is supposedly the wealthiest country in the world - is not just unfair, it's unacceptable.

15 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
We are winning, and we will keep pushing until most Americans agree with "wealth redistribution." (Original Post) reformist2 Oct 2015 OP
K&R..... daleanime Oct 2015 #1
We already have been living with huge wealth distribution since Reagan's time... cascadiance Oct 2015 #2
+1000 nt restorefreedom Oct 2015 #4
It's time to restore GRAVITY to Congress, gravity where money FALLS DOWN, not up. nt valerief Oct 2015 #7
Beat me to it. Martin Eden Oct 2015 #8
I don't disagree Ichigo Kurosaki Oct 2015 #3
There are only about 190 million "adults" (17-65) in the US. Your 100 million working.... George II Oct 2015 #5
Yes! lonestarnot Oct 2015 #6
everytime you have a chance onethatcares Oct 2015 #9
Even my good friend/colleague whom is a Republican... TRoN33 Oct 2015 #10
You know what they'll tell you: You didn't learn to play and win the game AZ Progressive Oct 2015 #11
Frankly as a nearly one percenter it makes me want to throw up lostnfound Oct 2015 #14
I tell people the rich betrayed Reagan and the rest of us.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #12
What too many Americans do NOT get is that wealth redistribution is occurring NOW. stillwaiting Oct 2015 #13
That's a good way to put it: "So you are FOR redistribution UPWARD?" lostnfound Oct 2015 #15
 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
2. We already have been living with huge wealth distribution since Reagan's time...
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 04:16 PM
Oct 2015

Unfortunately, most of the nation's wealth has been redistributed to those at the top, who don't need it, and just use that extra wealth to solidify their power and control over our system to try and reject any reversal of this wealth distribution to provide it BACK to those it was STOLEN from over the last 40-50 years.

We need to find away to retake the "free press" so it really is a "free press" and not a corporate propaganda machine that it has become that always toots that "wealth redistribution" is about us wanting the 1%'s wealth which "is not ours" and other bullshit like that.

Ichigo Kurosaki

(167 posts)
3. I don't disagree
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 04:24 PM
Oct 2015

with your point but according to the BLS we do not have near 200 million people working here, it's closer to 100 million.

George II

(67,782 posts)
5. There are only about 190 million "adults" (17-65) in the US. Your 100 million working....
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 05:08 PM
Oct 2015

....is probably close to those working. If we were to add a "liberal" 20 million who want to work, thats still only 60% of those 200 million.

onethatcares

(16,165 posts)
9. everytime you have a chance
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 05:44 PM
Oct 2015

to talk to a younger person that is just starting out in learning how the system has been screwing us all, take your time, keep your voice level, tell them about the time when a decent, living wage was available to all was here. You will get questions, you'll get disbelief, but you will see the light bulb come on above their heads and a modicum of understanding hit them full blast.


Remind them that "E Pluribus Unum" means out of many "ONE"

 

TRoN33

(769 posts)
10. Even my good friend/colleague whom is a Republican...
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 05:50 PM
Oct 2015

He said he'd vote for Bernie without listening to any of GOP's absurd debates.

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
11. You know what they'll tell you: You didn't learn to play and win the game
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 06:39 PM
Oct 2015

Especially the "self made" people.

Of course, that totally ignores all the advantages they had: talent in something that helps to make big money, high intelligence, talent in social skills, totally functioning mind, being in an environment that fosters productivity and faith in the future, and having people that invested in them, especially including one or more mentors that taught them the ropes.

In other words, they like to think that they are so successful when really they were extremely lucky, even the self made ones.

lostnfound

(16,170 posts)
14. Frankly as a nearly one percenter it makes me want to throw up
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 11:50 AM
Oct 2015

That almost all of the people I grew up with are living hand to mouth. Hardworking, educated and/or skilled people who should be earning a stress-free living, are constantly treading water.

And I'd rather my kid grew up in a more equal, more Democratic country.

It is horrifying that all of this extra income is going to people who get nothing from it except more POWER, as opposed to food, clothing, health care and basic necessities including *security* in their lives.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
12. I tell people the rich betrayed Reagan and the rest of us....
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 06:45 PM
Oct 2015

The rich claimed they would LOVE to give us all a raise out of the goodness of their hearts but couldn't afford it because the government was overtaxing them and over-regulating them.

Reagan gave the rich what they wanted and they didn't put the money into payroll.

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
13. What too many Americans do NOT get is that wealth redistribution is occurring NOW.
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 10:24 AM
Oct 2015

It's almost always occurring. Current laws will almost always allow for the redistribution of wealth and income either upwards or downwards since our economic system is not a static one.

If someone in America is "against" wealth redistribution based on how the issue has been defined by our benevolent friends in the media, they have to realize that they are indeed FOR wealth and income redistribution. They are for the CONTINUING upward wealth and income redistribution that we have been experiencing for decades. The rich keep getting richer (more wealth and a HUGE portion of newly created income every year) while the poor, the working class, and the middle class keep getting poorer. Current laws and policies allow for this and cause this to occur. There are actually laws we could GO BACK to that would turn that ship around.

At a time when wealth and income inequality exceeds that of the the gilded age, do we really want to continue redistributing it upwards to individuals that are living like kings and queens? At a time when more and more of us are losing any sense of security during our retirement years and at a time when more and more of us are facing dwindling and dwindling access to financial resources on a day-to-day basis?

I say, SNAP OUT OF IT you brainwashed fools (to those not on our side or those completely tuned out) and join the fight. Fight to help your friends, your family, and your god-damned selves.

lostnfound

(16,170 posts)
15. That's a good way to put it: "So you are FOR redistribution UPWARD?"
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 11:54 AM
Oct 2015

It's one or the other.
FOR continuation of upward redistribution?
Or for.reversing the flow, so that the bottom 80% can have a fighting chance?

Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»2016 Postmortem»We are winning, and we wi...