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jkbRN

(850 posts)
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 01:05 AM Oct 2015

Reuters Poll 10/09: Clinton's support slides ahead of first Democratic debate

Just days before she will take the stage in the first Democratic debate, Hillary Clinton's lead over rival Bernie Sanders has narrowed, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll.

Clinton's support among Democratic voters fell 10 points within less than a week.

From October 4 to October 9, Clinton saw her support tumble from 51 percent of Democratic support to just 41 percent.


Her nearest competitors, Vermont Senator Sanders and Vice President of the U.S. Joe Biden, who has yet to decide whether he will run, both made gains. Support for Sanders jumped from just over 24 percent to 28 percent, and Biden rose from 16 percent to a even 20 percent in the same time period.

This is not the first time that Clinton’s support has taken a steep nosedive. Just last month, Sanders edged within eight points of the former secretary of state — Clinton at 39 percent; Sanders at 31.


In the same October 9 polling, other Democratic candidates vying for the party's nomination, former governors Lincoln Chafee and Martin O'Malley, as well as former Senator Jim Webb, all received less than three percent of Democratic support respectively.

The October 9 survey includes 624 respondents and has a credibility interval of 4.5 percent.



Source: http://reut.rs/1GBdqpf

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Reuters Poll 10/09: Clinton's support slides ahead of first Democratic debate (Original Post) jkbRN Oct 2015 OP
And that's just Democrats. HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #1
well vadermike Oct 2015 #2
People care about ISSUES, not how politicians act on popular TV shows. That actually bothers a lot sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #10
Precisely. +1 Time_Lord Oct 2015 #18
I wish more voters have your mindset, but most do not. LettuceSea Oct 2015 #19
I think that was a great reply: it shows a depth of thought and willingness to work together. C Moon Oct 2015 #13
10 points in under a week? Yeah ok. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #3
Are we not believing the polls now?? Fearless Oct 2015 #4
Polls that include someone who isn't running don't mean a whole lot. NuclearDem Oct 2015 #5
Sounds like another excuse to discredit bad news Fearless Oct 2015 #6
Do you think polls should accurately reflect the candidates? NuclearDem Oct 2015 #8
The corporate media won't stop including him for some reason AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #17
Do you believe Biden is going to get 20% of the primary votes? JaneyVee Oct 2015 #7
Ten point slide this week does seem a little much...NEXT week, however, it's not only possible, Indepatriot Oct 2015 #9
Voters haven't formed their choices yet Bernblu Oct 2015 #11
Joe Biden is not running for the nomination. Why is he included in these 'scientific' polls? sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #12
HRC's support falls TWENTY PERCENT in less than ONE WEEK Divernan Oct 2015 #14
After the debates... Lunabell Oct 2015 #15
It's deja vu all over again. Enthusiast Oct 2015 #16
 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
1. And that's just Democrats.
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 01:12 AM
Oct 2015

The poll isn't measuring Independents, many who will vote for Sanders in the Primaries, even registering Dem beforehand to do so if required. And they will vote for Sanders in the GE. Hillary will not capture Ind votes, nor get any cross-over from Rs.

vadermike

(1,415 posts)
2. well
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 01:14 AM
Oct 2015

I think if Sanders does well in this upcoming debate i suspect he will vault over her and then Biden will probably run.. she is tanking .. i thought maybe with SNL and the Mcarthy pushback seemed to be doing better.. we will see i guess

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
10. People care about ISSUES, not how politicians act on popular TV shows. That actually bothers a lot
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 01:43 AM
Oct 2015

of voters as it makes a candidate seem to not care about issues, laughing it up with comedians while they are struggling to pay the mortgage.

Nor do they care about politics, right/left. Bernie understands what people care about. He knows the old 'red team/blue team' games are of little concern to anyone but the small minority of political junkies.

Up to now though, we had no choice between one team or another which might have created the false impression that voters actually care about that stuff.

Now we have someone who stays with what the people actually care about, ISSUES and he knows WHAT issues they care about because he never lost touch with the people. Nor was he tempted by the money floating around in our electoral system.

LettuceSea

(337 posts)
19. I wish more voters have your mindset, but most do not.
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 01:59 PM
Oct 2015

When was the last time the "have a beer with" test failed? 1972?

In the General Election, it really is one big giant popularity contest...though the ideas they present can make them more or less popular. Don't hate the player, hate the game.

Good news for Bernie is even if you measure him superficially, he's still more likable than HRC!

C Moon

(12,212 posts)
13. I think that was a great reply: it shows a depth of thought and willingness to work together.
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 03:00 AM
Oct 2015

Commendable.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
5. Polls that include someone who isn't running don't mean a whole lot.
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 01:25 AM
Oct 2015

Other than to further a narrative of "Clinton is imploding."

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
8. Do you think polls should accurately reflect the candidates?
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 01:29 AM
Oct 2015

Because including someone who isn't running, but siphoning Clinton votes, sure doesn't accurately reflect the field.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
17. The corporate media won't stop including him for some reason
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 12:29 PM
Oct 2015

The corporate media that is afraid of Sanders. I wonder what that reason could be?

 

Indepatriot

(1,253 posts)
9. Ten point slide this week does seem a little much...NEXT week, however, it's not only possible,
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 01:37 AM
Oct 2015

but LIKELY

Bernblu

(441 posts)
11. Voters haven't formed their choices yet
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 01:45 AM
Oct 2015

This poll seems to go up and down. I guess voters haven''t fully formed their choices yet.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
14. HRC's support falls TWENTY PERCENT in less than ONE WEEK
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 03:53 AM
Oct 2015

That ten points, from 51 to 41 represents TWENTY PERCENT OF HER SUPPORTERS, in less than one week. The comments following the article rip her to absolute shreds, which is exactly what would happen to her as the Democratic candidate in the general election. The comments are much more focused on her perceived lack of consistency, honesty, humility and integrity than on the email controversy.

Her falling numbers are quite astounding, considering how high her ratings were when she started pouring all the millions she's had at her disposal into her campaign. It's like some nouveau riche arriviste has bought a huge mansion, but lacks the self-confidence to furnish/decorate it herself, or even settle on one designer. So she hires a different consultant for each room and the result is elaborate, ostentatious chaos.

The Clintons have a more-is-better view of life. More consultants, more unpaid "interns", more posh fundraising soirees, more private jet travel, etc. Quantity over quality. Style over substance.

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