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Related: About this forumPresidential Poll Dancing: Why all the polls are wrong.
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Back in October, Gallup stunned the political-industrial complex by announcing it would not conduct any voter polling during the primary campaigns, and maybe not during the general election. Or maybe ever, if they cannot figure out why they have gotten so bad at doing what they have always done best. In 2012, Gallups final polls had Romney winning the presidency in a squeaker; Obama won going away. In 2010, Gallup had the Republicans sweeping Congress much more decisively than they did. And thats the recent record of the best of the pollsters; the rest of the crowd has been even worse.
The fact is, political polling is no longer reliable.
To provide a useful picture of voter attitudes (which can change hours later), a poll must engage a large enough sample (about 1,000), must select them randomly (within universes, of, say, registered voters), and just be careful not to skew the answers with loaded questions (Republican candidates poll better when Republicans ask the questions, and vice versa).
What has crippled polling more than any other factor is the death of the land-line telephone. Once upon a time, every adult had one, its number told you where it was, and you could look it up in a public directory. Now, fewer than half of adults have one (or use it as their primary telephone). There are now more mobile phones in use in America than there are human beings; 60% of people under 45 have only a cell phone.
---SNIP---
Back in October, Gallup stunned the political-industrial complex by announcing it would not conduct any voter polling during the primary campaigns, and maybe not during the general election. Or maybe ever, if they cannot figure out why they have gotten so bad at doing what they have always done best. In 2012, Gallups final polls had Romney winning the presidency in a squeaker; Obama won going away. In 2010, Gallup had the Republicans sweeping Congress much more decisively than they did. And thats the recent record of the best of the pollsters; the rest of the crowd has been even worse.
The fact is, political polling is no longer reliable.
To provide a useful picture of voter attitudes (which can change hours later), a poll must engage a large enough sample (about 1,000), must select them randomly (within universes, of, say, registered voters), and just be careful not to skew the answers with loaded questions (Republican candidates poll better when Republicans ask the questions, and vice versa).
What has crippled polling more than any other factor is the death of the land-line telephone. Once upon a time, every adult had one, its number told you where it was, and you could look it up in a public directory. Now, fewer than half of adults have one (or use it as their primary telephone). There are now more mobile phones in use in America than there are human beings; 60% of people under 45 have only a cell phone.
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Presidential Poll Dancing: Why all the polls are wrong. (Original Post)
Binkie The Clown
Oct 2015
OP
We have land and cell lines, but we block a lot of calls and don't answer calls from numbers
JDPriestly
Oct 2015
#4
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)1. I love it when I read something
that reiterates & amplifies what my gut is already screaming.
This is one of those times.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)2. I think that's called...
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)5. You wish
Sorry to disappoint, but this is more like it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth_(disambiguation)
aidbo
(2,328 posts)3. ^ also
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)4. We have land and cell lines, but we block a lot of calls and don't answer calls from numbers
we don't recognize. I bet a lot of people do what we do.
We just get too many nuisance calls. That's why we do what we do.
newfie11
(8,159 posts)6. Or is it voting machines flipping votes! Nt
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