2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIs Hillary Clinton a capitalist?
Just wondering. Since we know Bernie Sanders is a democratic socialist. And they keep asking him about it. Over and over again.
I was just wondering if Hillary Clinton is a capitalist. Anybody know?
DocPain
(37 posts)?
For clarity, I mean financial supporters.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)DocPain
(37 posts)Good to be here.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)cprise
(8,445 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)'Powerful Capitalist' is far more flattering than the terms she actually deserves.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Did she kick your puppy?
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)If this is crony capitalism then who are the cronies?
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)And she is owned and financed by oligarchs and plutocrats. So technically she is a rich and high-ranking flunky and water-carrier for the REAL moneyed interests.
No, thank you.
applegrove
(118,492 posts)tried to get universal health care passed. So is almost every economy in the world.
cprise
(8,445 posts)from NAFTA all the way to the TPP suggests a hostility toward even mixed economies.
As "partner in the Oval Office" with her husband, she should bear some responsibility over the repeal of Glass-Steagal and the knee-capping of welfare (and the further deregulation of the media, etc. etc.). Its sort of too bad she ran for president in 2008, when she defended her old policies.
Frankly, I think she is just a stealth Neocon. With her support for arming Syrian rebels back in 2011, her actions are in line with those of Straussian chickenhawks.
On Edit: Yes, selling war has everything to do with being a capitalist.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)TM99
(8,352 posts)universal health care passed.
That is factually incorrect. She pushed a version of Heritage Care that is not that different from RomneyCare or the current ACA.
applegrove
(118,492 posts)TM99
(8,352 posts)Hell even that bastion of wisdom, Wikipedia, clearly states she never tried to pass universal health care. Historical revisionism doesn't help her case.
cprise
(8,445 posts)Her capitalist credentials should be well-established by her directorship at Walmart and the policies that flowed out of the Clinton presidency *and* the policies from the past that she has been defending.
...*and* the policies she has been promoting practically to this day, like Free Trade.
wyldwolf
(43,867 posts)...with her first lemonade stand.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)That would be free enterprise.
wyldwolf
(43,867 posts)capitalist
noun cap·i·tal·ist \-ist\
: a person who has a lot of money, property, etc., and who uses those things to produce more money
capitalist (ˈkæpɪtəlɪst)
n
1. (Economics) a person who owns capital, esp capital invested in a business
Just don't see anything about a bank loan. Oh, she did get the start-up cash from the Bank of Mommy and Daddy.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)AKA banks and stock market.
wyldwolf
(43,867 posts)Selling goods for money involves capital. AKA money.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)definition. Of course he has a PHD so he has a little more insight than we do
wyldwolf
(43,867 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Last edited Tue Oct 13, 2015, 01:09 AM - Edit history (1)
Like pure socialism, Democratic Socialism has private ownership of the means of production. They practice heavily regulated Capitalism.
brooklynite
(94,352 posts)...the problem is that you'll need to keep explaining the difference to low information voters.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Democratic capitalism sounds self contradicting. An oxymoron.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)nt
aidbo
(2,328 posts)..then what do we have now?"
Then head-splosion
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)In a Capitalist system, supply increases to meet demand. In 'supply side' there is no need for demand, only government supplied 'supply' is necessary. It is 'supplied' by we the people in the form of tax cuts. It is paid for with the credit card. Supply side does not trickle down. Supply side is basically money laundering.
Supply side is NOT Capitalism.
cprise
(8,445 posts)nationalization.
The 'Democratic' part means they don't try to ban parties that represent capitalism or other economic points of view.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)That which is deemed vital to the common good is nationalized. Like we have always done in the USA. AKA utilities, military, banks, etc.
cprise
(8,445 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)mmonk
(52,589 posts)NYCButterfinger
(755 posts)What is there if you are poor? What life is that? It's time to be honest.
cheapdate
(3,811 posts)Did someone propose that success was bad? What am I missing? A little help, please?
NYCButterfinger
(755 posts)Capitalism has it's faults. I think it is the best way to get out of poverty. They are some people who think it is bad. Some folks in the party. The rich who don't pay taxes should be punished, but let's not attack all wealthy and successful people. Tax the rich, and you see how surpluses will rise in the U.S. and around the world.
wyldwolf
(43,867 posts)Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Hell is a liberal web forum
wyldwolf
(43,867 posts)orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)The war in Iraq, the TPP, and unchecked surveillance, using government facilities for corporation gains, such as prisons .
fredamae
(4,458 posts)in the same sense Sanders agrees with good old fashioned capitalism?
cascadiance
(19,537 posts)noun | cap·i·tal·ist | \-ist\
: a person who has a lot of money, property, etc., and who uses those things to produce more money
: a person who believes that capitalism is the best kind of economic system
Full Definition of CAPITALIST
1 : a person who has capital especially invested in business; broadly : a person of wealth : plutocrat
2 : a person who favors capitalism
Related to CAPITALIST
Synonyms
Croesus, deep pocket, fat cat, have, money, moneybags, plutocrat, silk stocking
Antonyms
have-not, pauper
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)and both have long records showing support for capitalism as their preferred system.
olddots
(10,237 posts)Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)IMO.