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Events in Iraq Open Door for Interventionist Revival, Historian SaysRobert Kagan Strikes a Nerve With Article on Obama Policy
By JASON HOROWITZ JUNE 15, 2014
His father, Donald Kagan, a historian of ancient Greece, is a patriarch of neoconservatism. His brother, Fred, is a military scholar who helped conceive the American troop increase in Iraq in 2007. His wife and unofficial editor, Victoria Nuland, is an assistant secretary of state and one of the countrys toughest and most experienced diplomats, whose fervor for building democracy in Ukraine recently leaked out in an embarrassing audio clip.
A very nice family, said William Kristol, a family friend and the founder of the conservative Weekly Standard, whose father, Irving, is another of neoconservatisms father figures and one of Roberts first bosses.
But Exhibit A for what Robert Kagan describes as his mainstream view of American force is his relationship with former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, who remains the vessel into which many interventionists are pouring their hopes. Mr. Kagan pointed out that he had recently attended a dinner of foreign-policy experts at which Mrs. Clinton was the guest of honor, and that he had served on her bipartisan group of foreign-policy heavy hitters at the State Department, where his wife worked as her spokeswoman.
I feel comfortable with her on foreign policy, Mr. Kagan said, adding that the next step after Mr. Obamas more realist approach could theoretically be whatever Hillary brings to the table if elected president. If she pursues a policy which we think she will pursue, he added, its something that might have been called neocon, but clearly her supporters are not going to call it that; they are going to call it something else.
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cpompilo
(323 posts)magical thyme
(14,881 posts)But Exhibit A for what Robert Kagan describes as his mainstream view of American force is his relationship with former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, who remains the vessel into which many interventionists are pouring their hopes. Mr. Kagan pointed out that he had recently attended a dinner of foreign-policy experts at which Mrs. Clinton was the guest of honor, and that he had served on her bipartisan group of foreign-policy heavy hitters at the State Department, where his wife worked as her spokeswoman.
I feel comfortable with her on foreign policy, Mr. Kagan said, adding that the next step after Mr. Obamas more realist approach could theoretically be whatever Hillary brings to the table if elected president. If she pursues a policy which we think she will pursue, he added, its something that might have been called neocon, but clearly her supporters are not going to call it that; they are going to call it something else.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)And that includes Mrs Clinton
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)future. Putting Hillary in the white house is not the best move for them.
cprise
(8,445 posts)And they're backstabbing Obama, saying he made a mess. Well, it was his fault for consulting and employing neocons.
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)She's a warmonger and no one can deny it.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Lol! That's the NEW word for telling the truth about her Iraq War vote.
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)Touchy subject, is it?
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)seem to be gaining any more traction than all the others they've tried.
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)just trying to get something to stick. Poor things. It's so hard to attack someone who is correct on every issue and has been correct on issues for 40 years. I love typing that.
His ethics cannot be questioned. How many politicians can we say that about? ONE - Bernie.
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Scuba
(53,475 posts)Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)In particular about Kagan believing...
Do Hillary supporters agree we should send troops back into the Middle East?