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Debbie Wasserman Schultz... (Original Post) DianeK Oct 2015 OP
Well if she wins the primary maybe bkkyosemite Oct 2015 #1
No, he has said he wouldn't if allowed to run in Dem primaries. HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #2
He definitely did DWS a favor and now we get to see just how thankful she isn't. in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #3
I think you mean a Democratic Party loss. onehandle Oct 2015 #4
no.. DianeK Oct 2015 #5
Someone running as an independent BainsBane Oct 2015 #8
your perspective is slightly skewed DianeK Oct 2015 #9
Then by all means, enlighten me BainsBane Oct 2015 #10
What does it mean to join a political party? freedom fighter jh Oct 2015 #14
On the most basic level BainsBane Oct 2015 #15
That's a pretty tough standard for an unspoken, unwritten rule. freedom fighter jh Oct 2015 #18
Damn! I'm disappointed... mak3cats Oct 2015 #6
Zackly freedom fighter jh Oct 2015 #7
It's the OP who has the problem BainsBane Oct 2015 #11
"They are allowing Bernie to run for the nomination." freedom fighter jh Oct 2015 #13
Mercy has nothing to do with it BainsBane Oct 2015 #16
No, it should not. freedom fighter jh Oct 2015 #17
Hey Hey, Ho Ho, Dubious Debbie has got to go. nt Snotcicles Oct 2015 #12
 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
2. No, he has said he wouldn't if allowed to run in Dem primaries.
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 08:08 PM
Oct 2015

His word is good. Also, the filing deadlines for many states wouldn't allow him to file to run in GE as a third party. DNC is fortunate he's not running as third party, Hillary would lose badly.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
3. He definitely did DWS a favor and now we get to see just how thankful she isn't.
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 08:12 PM
Oct 2015

I can't believe I use to like that woman.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
4. I think you mean a Democratic Party loss.
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 08:12 PM
Oct 2015

It's so sad when the 'Not Hillary' Party shows their true spots.

BainsBane

(53,012 posts)
8. Someone running as an independent
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 09:25 PM
Oct 2015

in the general election has zero impact on the nominations of either party. You are talking about a loss in the general election, which if Hillary were the nominee would mean the Democratic party, not just the presidency but down ballot. Is your antipathy toward two women so great that you would want that to happen? A GOP President, House and Senate, state legislatures and governors-- all because you are angry that the DNC doesn't extend special favors to Sanders, who has yet to officially join the party?

You may only think about punishing Clinton and Wasserman Schultz, but your scenario would punish millions of people who would lose benefits, unemployment insurance, and quite likely healthcare. But how could any of that possibly matter compared to your anger at two women? Those millions of people aren't the chosen few who know the truth path only possible through the electoral victory of one man--not policy, not reform, but one man's career.


freedom fighter jh

(1,782 posts)
14. What does it mean to join a political party?
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 10:15 PM
Oct 2015

You say Sanders has yet to join the Democratic Party.

I thought it meant to register to vote as a member of that party. Bernie hasn't done that because in Vermont you just register to vote, you don't register with a party.

He serves in the Senate as an independent, because he was elected independently -- not as a member of a party.

How could Bernie join the Democratic Party? What would he have to do?

BainsBane

(53,012 posts)
15. On the most basic level
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 10:55 PM
Oct 2015

It means there is a D next to your name rather than an I. It means you run for the Democratic nomination for Senator in your home state and run for the general election as senator as Democrat rather than an Independent.

It also means you don't say things like this:
“I am extremely proud to be an independent. The fact that I am not a Democrat gives me the freedom to speak out on the floor of the House, to vote against both the Democratic and Republican proposals.”

“Why should we work within the Democratic Party if we don’t agree with anything the Democratic Party says?”

"It would be hypocritical of me to run as a Democrat because of the things I have said about the party."

freedom fighter jh

(1,782 posts)
18. That's a pretty tough standard for an unspoken, unwritten rule.
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 07:09 AM
Oct 2015

In the end, the political parties exist to benefit the people. To suggest that Bernie should not run for president as a Democrat because he was not elected to the Senate as a Democrat, or because he has said unkind things about the Democratic Party in the past is to erect an arbitrary barrier to the detriment of the American people.

Anyone who qualifies under the law should be allowed to run for president. If someone who qualifies and wants to run and is capable of getting a lot of votes is barred from running as a Democrat, then his only remaining options are to run as an independent or not to run at all. In either of those cases, Bernie's run would be detrimental to the nation: In the first, because left-leaning voters would be split into two groups, and in the second because (IMO) Bernie, a candidate who doesn't accept corporate funding, is more willing and able to work for the benefit of the American people than is anyone else.

mak3cats

(1,573 posts)
6. Damn! I'm disappointed...
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 08:29 PM
Oct 2015

...your subject line made me think it was a quiz or something. I had my answers all ready:

I'll take "Soon to be has-beens" for $500, Alex!

1. Who is desperately looking for her next job in a Clinton administration?
2. Who is a closet Republican?
3. Who is the worst excuse for a chair that the DNC has ever seen?

freedom fighter jh

(1,782 posts)
7. Zackly
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 08:36 PM
Oct 2015

I keep hearing about how Bernie is just using the Democratic Party; he's not a real Democrat; what right does he have to run as a Democrat?

Being an American-born citizen over the age of 35, he has the right to run for president. If he runs as an independent, he's giving the Republicans an advantage. If he's determined not to do that, then either he passes up his right to run or he runs as a Democrat. He's chosen the latter. Where's the problem?

BainsBane

(53,012 posts)
11. It's the OP who has the problem
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 09:34 PM
Oct 2015

Not the DNC. They are allowing Bernie to run for the nomination. DWS isn't the one complaining 24/7 about the number of debates, about the seating arrangements, about the positioning of the candidates, about the questions not yet even asked, about the outcome of the debate that hasn't even taken place, that the DNC hasn't scheduled debates to encourage maximum Republican participation in Democratic primaries. . . . and countless other complaints.

freedom fighter jh

(1,782 posts)
13. "They are allowing Bernie to run for the nomination."
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 09:45 PM
Oct 2015

Are they not merciful?

They are having at least some debates, and even allowing Bernie to participate in them.

Are they not merciful?

freedom fighter jh

(1,782 posts)
17. No, it should not.
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 07:18 AM
Oct 2015

Someone who is begging for mercy might worry that he complaining too much. Someone who is asking only for what is within his rights may not worry about it.

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