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Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 09:46 PM Oct 2015

Bernie Sanders Comes Out Against CISA

It has to do with a Senate vote, but it also goes to his campaign's position, so I'm posting it in this forum. I got this from /. so check them out for the nerd take on all of this. Pretty friendly to Senator Sanders over there.

http://politics.slashdot.org/story/15/10/12/173202/bernie-sanders-comes-out-against-cisa

Bernie Sanders Comes Out Against CISA 120
Posted by samzenpus on Monday October 12, 2015 @03:25PM from the don't-share-my-info-bro dept.
erier2003 writes:
Sen. Bernie Sanders' opposition to the Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act in its current form aligns him with privacy advocates and makes him the only presidential candidate to stake out that position, just as cybersecurity issues loom large over the 2016 election, from email server security to the foreign-policy implications of data breaches. The Senate is preparing to vote on CISA, a bill to address gaps in America's cyberdefenses by letting corporations share threat data with the government. But privacy advocates and security experts oppose the bill because customers' personal information could make it into the shared data.
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Bernie Sanders Comes Out Against CISA (Original Post) Babel_17 Oct 2015 OP
Found this article: Bernie Sanders comes out against CISA, a controversial cybersecurity bill beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #1
Good stuff! Babel_17 Oct 2015 #5
Thanks! beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #7
Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) might be a good ally for that Babel_17 Oct 2015 #8
He said he'll oppose it "by any means necessary": beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #9
I like that quote Babel_17 Oct 2015 #10
They're only collecting it to keep us safe, you know. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #12
I'd get fired if I had a data breach like that Aerows Oct 2015 #15
Skimping on security is a risk that could end up costing much much more than they save. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #16
The model of choice Aerows Oct 2015 #17
Let me guess what HRC will say. "I am looking at this to see if it includes those controls rhett o rick Oct 2015 #2
First she will praise it jfern Oct 2015 #3
You did it better. nm rhett o rick Oct 2015 #4
That sounds just like her...nt artislife Oct 2015 #6
No answer so far, according to one source Babel_17 Oct 2015 #11
Good find. Paka Oct 2015 #13
Kick! aidbo Oct 2015 #14
Thanks for posting. SamKnause Oct 2015 #18

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
1. Found this article: Bernie Sanders comes out against CISA, a controversial cybersecurity bill
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 09:54 PM
Oct 2015
Bernie Sanders comes out against CISA, a controversial cybersecurity bill
By Eric Geller
Oct 12, 2015


Sen. Bernie Sanders opposes a controversial cybersecurity bill that could soon come up for a vote in the Senate, his office tells the Daily Dot.

Sanders' stance on the Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act in its current form aligns him with privacy advocates and makes him the only Democratic presidential candidate to stake out that position, just as cybersecurity issues loom large over the 2016 election, from email server security to the foreign-policy implications of data breaches.


The Senate is preparing to vote on CISA, a bill to address gaps in America's cyberdefenses by letting corporations share threat data with the government. But privacy advocates and security experts oppose the bill because customers' personal information could make it into the shared data.

...

"The biggest CISA wildcard is former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who faces a cybersecurity controversy of her own."
That position puts Sanders at odds with leading Republican candidates, including former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, who slammed Senate Democrats for blocking swift passage of CISA by demanding privacy-focused amendments. In his cybersecurity plan, which he released in September, Bush called on President Barack Obama to "lean on" those senators to let CISA pass

...

Sanders introduced an amendment to CISA in August that would establish a "Commission on Privacy Rights in the Digital Age."

http://www.dailydot.com/politics/bernie-sanders-cisa-senate-2016-presidential-candidates/



It will be interesting to see what the other candidates have to say about this issue.


Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
5. Good stuff!
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 10:07 PM
Oct 2015

That link was embedded in the /. article but I figured let it come up if people were interested. Great to see you were.

We need activism on issues like this. Just reacting with dismay after the fact isn't enough in these times.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
8. Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) might be a good ally for that
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 10:14 PM
Oct 2015
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/15/09/14/1643200/sen-ron-wyden-says-cisa-data-collection-could-put-americans-at-risk

Posted by samzenpus on Monday September 14, 2015 @01:50PM from the all-in-one-place dept.
blottsie writes:
In a new interview, Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) says the Cyber Information Sharing Act of 2015 (CISA) may put more Americans at risk because the U.S. government has failed to learn the right security lessons from the attack on the Office of Personnel Management. He says, in part: "I've been watching as this goes forward—there's this phrase going around the cybersecurity community, 'If you can't protect it, don't collect it.' Now, there is never going to be a system that's 100 percent safe. But what I'm going to start [saying] on the floor as we get to this [CISA debate], is, you give the government a huge new trove of personal information about Americans before you've addressed the problems that were documented all the way back to 2007—those security holes—before you address those, [before] you plug them, that's like responding to a bear attack by stockpiling honey. That's going to be how I open the debate."

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
9. He said he'll oppose it "by any means necessary":
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 10:18 PM
Oct 2015

From my link:

Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.), CISA's leading congressional critic and the only Intelligence Committee member to vote against it in committee, has promised to oppose the bill's final passage by any means necessary, but he has not specifically threatened to filibuster it.



"If you can't protect it, don't collect it."

You think we'd have learned that by now.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
15. I'd get fired if I had a data breach like that
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 11:26 PM
Oct 2015

Companies keep trimming the budget, but they try to do it in ways that in the long run hurt them.

If you spend money every month on an automated security system, you can afford to pay your network folks better.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
17. The model of choice
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 12:00 AM
Oct 2015

is that every fiscal quarter, companies dump employees to raise the gross/net value, which affects their ratings and if they are publicly traded, stock prices. They show themselves as growth, because where oh where did all the expenditure go? Oh, they just fired everyone that isn't necessary.

Dump employees, keep a core unit that knows what is going on, and then that core unit gets the benefit of working 3 jobs instead of 1.

No need to tell me. I know it.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
2. Let me guess what HRC will say. "I am looking at this to see if it includes those controls
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 10:02 PM
Oct 2015

that are necessary to maintain the total ambiguity for people's freedom from something. I will comment further after it's been voted on and in place for a few years, maybe."

jfern

(5,204 posts)
3. First she will praise it
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 10:03 PM
Oct 2015

And then if her focus groups say that hurt her, she'll say "As of today based upon what I now know, I am currently against it, but don't count on me for anything."

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