‘College Students for Bernie’ chapters explode nationwide!'

[sabrina 1]

Bernie definitely has the huge youth vote, now energized by his campaign which they say, is addressing the issues THEY care about.

‘College Students for Bernie’ chapters explode nationwide; members bash Hillary as fake

Some 164 “College Students for Bernie” groups have sprung up in recent months on college campuses nationwide, according a chapter roster maintained by The Action Network. Students say he offers a more authentic, honest choice compared to frontrunner Clinton.

“No one I know really likes Hillary Clinton at this point,” Brendan Eprile, president of the Oberlin chapter, told The College Fix in an email. “Hillary Clinton is a chameleon: she will side with the issues that she thinks will give her the best press. I think honestly, most people I know don’t trust Hillary Clinton. It doesn’t seem like she actually cares about the American people as a whole.”

What's really interesting is that all the expensive, Dark Money talking points they are trying to use against Bernie, are completely BACKFIRING with voters. See how they feel eg, about the playing of the RED CARD:

“Hillary represents status quo, establishment politics, Super PACs, catering to the wealthy, and tiptoeing around the issues that matter,” Austin said. “I think his [Sanders’] integrity shines through and that’s what people love the most. He is not willing to trash talk other candidates or work with any Super PAC, and that’s truly the change we’d all like to see in today’s politics.”

What’s more, Sanders’ self-described socialistic views have not wavered since he initially took office.

“Bernie Sanders has always been on the right side of history,” Eprile said. “He was extremely involved with civil rights back in the 60s, and he hasn’t stopped.”

While we've witnessed the lack of principles among those attempting to smear Sanders, see dirty trickster David Brock eg, trying to play the Red Card eg, which resulted in raising over $1.3 million for Bernie, THAT is EXACTLY what people have come to DESPISE.

I'm fine with letting them waste all that Corporate Cash showing how out of touch they are, the Establishment and their Citizens United Super Pacs, with the vast majority of the PEOPLE.

Playing the Red Card etc is only harming their candidate. Meanwhile Bernie continues to soar among those who matter, the PEOPLE!

'Authenticiy Sincerity, Integrity, Honesty, Consistency, no flip flopping around on major issues, Good Judgement and Foresight as evidence by his long voting history!

All these qualities are what people like MOST about Bernie Sanders. PLUS his campaign isn't paying to try to SMEAR other candidates.

It doesn't have to. All he needs to do is to TELL THE TRUTH!






While there are those who try to convince us that 'changing one's mind' is a good thing, it appears that the PEOPLE do not agree!

It causes them to distrust those who can't seem to make up their minds.

[mmonk]

1. Movement.

[sabrina 1]

2. He is definitely right about that. It will take a movement to even begin to undo the harm that has

been done to this country by these rogue corporations.

I love being told by people as if we didn't know 'no president can change things'.

I guess they don't pay much attention to what is really going on and just enjoy giving 'advice' or something.

Bernie knows this and so do his supporters.

[daleanime]

6. Amen.....

[Dustlawyer]

8. People complain that Bernie wont be able to pass the things he is talking about.

Those people don't want to acknowledge that Bernie has spoken about this and has asked us to stand behind him after he is elected. He needs a massive number of people to pressure existing legislators to pass Publicly Funded Elections (PFEs) and he will have them! A "Political Revolution" is needed since the corporate and Plutocratic campaign donations have allowed them control over our government, much of our judiciary (many have to run for office, eg., Texas Supreme Court rules in favor of corporations over individuals 94% of the time). Couple that with their complete control over the regulatory agencies, which do not have the budgets to regulate and are all headed by industry appointees, and their ownership of the oligarchic media and banking institutions, which has destroyed our Democracy.

This is not a normal election for us. This is a fight to determine if the country guaranteed by our Constitution will again operate as intended, or if it will remain, as former President Jimmy Carter recently stated, an oligarchical fascists state! Hillary and O'Malley have no plans to make those kinds of changes. Their reforms are nothing more than surface modifications designed to help disguise what has happened to our country and quell the populist uprising caused by the increasingly open, naked grab of the 1% of all new income, resources, and tax dollars held or generated in this country and the rest of the world.

Due to the increased peril to our environment that the decades of unchecked pollution, growth, and disinformation concerning climate change, our time to set things right and return to Representative Democracy is very short. If we are not successful this time we will have lost our best chance to be able to save the future of our planet. I know it sounds hyperbolic, but sadly I know it is not. I stand behind Bernie and with the rest of you to see this through!!!!

[sabrina 1]

14. No it doesn't sound hyperbolic at all. It is an excellent comment and should be an OP on its own.

I could not agree more about the importance of this race for not just this country, but the rest of the world also.

There is no other candidate in this race who going to even try to make the necessary changes necessary, or at least to begin the process.

And you are correct, Bernie knows that even if he wins, alone he cannot do very much. We don't need lectures from people whose own credibility is severely lacking to tell us that.

HE HAS TOLD US THAT and we agree, at least those of us who actually care about this country and planet.

[MasonDreams]

27. BRAVO!!! Well said "surface modifications to disguise, and quell the uprising"

We gotta BERN down the House!! peacefully, with Votes and Activism. And the Senate, peacefully, like Gandhi & MLK Jr.

[Paka]

42. Amen!

Great comments.

[cprise]

44. A political revolution needs BIIIG coattails

It largely does not work with "existing legislators" because most of them have been sent home.

[Dustlawyer]

48. Agree with you on the BIIIG coattails, but you need to understand that if we never try,

we will always settle for a society that operates behind the scenes, determining who runs for almost all offices and what their message is. A society where we have no real say so, our elections meaningless as we are manipulated as to what the issues even are, not what we want or need them to be! i don't want to live in a country where the sick and old are living below the poverty line, this is America, we can do better!

Bernie, Elizabeth Warren and maybe a few others could raise enough in small donations to be competitive, but usually because they have a lot more free labor. People that support true Progressives volunteer if they cannot afford to donate, and many others who do both.

Many people saw and heard Bernie tonight for the first time. I think he did great and I expect a good bump build after this first debate.

Can we draw enough to create enough pressure for change? I don't know, but I will know that "I" tried! You don't win if you don't try. Who wants their kids and grandkids to live in that world, especially when it is getting hotter, drier, and the average worker makes less in general around the world. The corporations and a small elite reap it all.

I watch how they game the system, such as last weeks announcement of the government and BP settlement of the Gulf oil spill (just with the government not the people and businesses, most of whom are still waiting) where they get to write off 15 billion of the 20 billion dollar deal. They get a 30 year payout so they can purchase an annuity to pay the notes at a big discount. What a bargain. Meanwhile they investigate almost every fisherman who filed a claim! Crap, BP was on probation when they blew up the Deepwater Horizon and killed 11 more (Texas City was 15 with several more deaths in between the two major tragedies). We gave Eric Holder, a Democratic President AG appointee, all the dirty documents of BP Texas City and requested a revocation the reason they were on probation in the first place, and instead he let them off early! The corporations have this all rigged.

I choose to fight peacefully for my country to return to a time of "Representative Democracy!" We don't have that anymore, don't you think we should? I am not swayed by negativity, that we cannot do it. History is full of hopeless causes finding a way. I don't think our task hopeless, but I agree it won't be easy. Something like this, on this scale with technology what it is, has a chance at catching fire. How fed up is America and how much do they know and understand. I know that when they hear Bernie many do finally understand, he makes sense and talks in a way politicians never do, straight.

[cprise]

49. I am with you

Just wanted to point out that the legislature has to change a lot as a condition for political revolution.

[DhhD]

61. WE the people will start the process of removing them through the ballot box. I expect that

the Sanders campaign will begin making that request in greater urgency. And it is time to attend town hall meetings to ask how the candidate will vote on Sanders' Bills? For instance ask the Republican incumbent about the policy of moving the control of the social security insurance trust fund, to be managed by Wall Street, for a fee? Then go vote against that Republican even if you do not like the Democrat. You need or your parents need, the full amount of their SS check each month.

[cprise]

63. Good points. n/t

[Enthusiast]

46. +1 a whole bunch!

[Art_from_Ark]

56. This thread should have hundreds of recommendations!

[Enthusiast]

57. Yes!

[davidpdx]

62. I agree with your assessment on surface level changes

Especially with regards to Hillary Clinton. She stated in the debate that she has no intention of shaking up the establishment. That's because she is an establishment candidate.

[WHEN CRABS ROAR]

19. Like I have said before.

Now is the time for a real progressive populist movement, but the message needs to be clear and not overly complex and it needs to be repeated over and over to drive it home into the minds of the people.

Then Bernie will win.

[Ed Suspicious]

3. Why do we need to be at a disadvantage to European countries?

Why should we allow it to be more difficult for our students to aquire a college education than say, Germany's students. For the monetary benefit of loan companies? How do they rate so highly in our political landscape? That is straight up bullshit.

[sabrina 1]

4. It's shameful what has been done to the future or our country, which is what our young people are.

The GREED is criminal! And it has to be turned around, and it won't be so long as these Greedy, power hungry oligarchs are buying our politicians.

[tex-wyo-dem]

5. Thanks for the great post, Sabrina!

Bernie just gets it...

[sabrina 1]

7. You're welcome, Tex. He does get it and the people, once they get to know him, know this.

It's amazing how his message has reached so many young people and how they are so excited about his campaign. Shows how little people listen to the Corp Media anymore.

[Hiraeth]

9. The word :youth: encompasses a wide variety. Do we have any more demographic info

than just the word :youth: Already I see the qualifying words :college students: which has its own implications in my mind.

[sabrina 1]

11. Yes, would 'millennials' suffice? It is now the largest generaion since the Baby Boomers and

Bernie's campaign is being driven by Millennials who are using their considerable skills, tech, creative artistry, music etc to help get him elected.

It is the equivalent of having the Baby Boomers behind you back when they were the largest voting bloc.

[Hiraeth]

13. actually, not the word(s) I was looking for but, thanks. I am also interested

in race/color/creed and rural/urban
do they live at home with parents
or
are they own their own?

This type of thing.

a Break down of it all.

[sabrina 1]

15. Well, the generation I referred to are of all backgrounds and some are working, some not, some still

students. They were eg, behind the OWS movement, because it is their generation who have been the most adversely affected by the neoliberal policies of the past number of decades.

I'm sure there is a breakdown of who they are somewhere, to me they are the younger generation who will have to live with the policies implemented already, unless they become involved, which they are, and take over what will after all be THEIR future.

[Hiraeth]

16. Yes, I understand ,,,

I'm sure there is a breakdown of who they are somewhere ... (snip)

I would be interested in seeing that, if the info becomes available.

Thanks.

[sabrina 1]

17. Yes, so would I. But babies born over a period of time which fit into the category of a

generation, would include all Americans born during that period. Which means there are many of that generation who are poor, unemployed, discriminated against as well as those who were born with advantages. Iow, a generation generally includes pretty everyone born within the period designated as a generation.

Maybe what you are asking is 'who of that generation' is supportive of Bernie's campaign?

[Hiraeth]

18. Yes, I would like to know more demographics of those youths/millenials who participated

in this poll.

Truth is, I would like to see more demographic breakdown of every poll posted on here by anyone.

I find it interesting. Maybe, I am the only one.

[SheilaT]

20. Please take a look at the book "Generations"

by William Strauss and Neil Howe. It sets forth in wonderful detail the four stroke cycle of generations in this country, with lots and lots of fascinating information about them.

Their definition of Millennials is those born starting in 1982. They weren't sure of the end birth year for that cohort, but guessed at 2003.

I'm beginning to think that since the term GenX has largely disappeared from common usage (and Strauss and Howe say they were born between 1961 and 1981) I'm beginning to think that the term Millennial is being very carelessly applied to a larger group than it should be.

Right now the younger part of the true Millennials has recently started high school and college.

The young cohort that were so enthusiastic about Obama in 2008 were the youngest GenXers and the older Millennials.

Please try to read the book. It's amazing, and incredibly, given that it came out in 1996, is hardly dated at all.

[Hiraeth]

21. Thanks. Maybe, I can download it to my Kindle. Appreciate the info.

[SheilaT]

22. Heads up. My print version runs 464 pages.

I am yet to find anyone else who has ever read the book, even though I'm constantly pushing it here on DU.

I've read entirely through it twice so far, and I really, really need to read it again.

[Hiraeth]

26. For some reason, I am really interested in the demographics of this election season.

It is way more complicated (to my thinking) than just black/white, male/female.

For whatever reason, DU seems (to me) to stop the breakdown at those points.

[SheilaT]

32. You are right.

The demographics of voting is always rather complex, but tends to be vastly oversimplified by the media. They love to announce things on the order of "This election will ultimately be decided by 10,000 soccer moms in Illinois".

The thing with the book Generations is that you can't just skip to the last chapters, in which they project the broad outlines of how they think things will play out into the third quarter of the 21st century. You really need to read it all: how they decided on this theory of generational turnover, how exactly it has played out up to the present. It's absolutely enthralling, but not exactly a fast weekend read. At least not for most people.

Strauss and Howe did go on to write a couple more books on this general topic. You might also want to read "The Fourth Turning".

Oh, and I must correct myself: "Generations" came out in 1991.

Here's a link to the Wiki article that nicely summarizes their theory: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strauss%E2%80%93Howe_generational_theory

You can read that and at least get a good handle on what they're talking about.

[Hiraeth]

36. Thanks for the link, SheilaT. Nice chatting with you.

[sabrina 1]

38. Which is why I avoided the use of the term 'MIllennials' and use the term 'young people'

instead. However I supplied the term Millennials after a request from the poster you are responding to.

Thanks for that link btw!

[SheilaT]

40. What word you want to use might depend on exactly what you want to convey.

If you want to make something of a generalization about all people in a particular age range across time, that's one thing. But if you want to capture something about a specific age cohort, then referring to them by their generational name makes sense. Not that most people will misunderstand you no matter how you express it.

[sabrina 1]

41. College students were the subject of the OP. Young people still in college are often

the ones most likely to lead the way on issues such as War Resistance, Civil Rights, see Bernie eg, during his College years on Civil Rights.

I wanted to convey only the facts outlined in the article linked which corroborate most other data regarding who is driving Bernie's campaign.

[davidpdx]

59. There is a newer version from 2000 on Amazon and they have the Kindle version

http://www.amazon.com/Millennials-Rising-Next-Great-Generation/dp/0375707190

[Hiraeth]

65. Thank you for the link and info, davidpdx. I will check it out.

[PatrickforO]

51. Didn't they write the book titled 'Millennials Rising, the Next Great Generation?'

I've read that one.

[davidpdx]

60. Yeah I just posted that one up thread

http://www.amazon.com/Millennials-Rising-Next-Great-Generation/dp/0375707190

Can you give us a review?

[WillyT]

10. HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!!

[dorkzilla]

12. K&R!

[magical thyme]

23. K&R

[MasonDreams]

24. Its just beautiful!! MSM doesn't know their convoluted corporate crap won't work. Not even decoded,

Its being ignored!! Even small children know when they are being lied to. Thank you Sabrina for spreading the words.
Authenticity, Sincerity, Integrity, Honesty, and Truth These things are important.

[sabrina 1]

39. Yes, but frankly I think any influence the Corp Media had has been pretty much diminished

to the point where few people believe a word they have to say. Besides most people today are using the New Media to get their news.

It's fascinating to me that Hillary's campaign is so dismissive of the power of the New Media, especially after her defeat in 2008. Obama was the first candidate to make such good use of this new medium and it probably was responsible for his victory. Especially since the old media was doing exactly what they are doing NOW.

[pnwmom]

25. A huge youth vote isn't enough, as millions of charged-up youthful voters learned in 1972

when George McGovern lost 49 states.

We never lost faith in him, but our efforts weren't enough.

[MasonDreams]

30. You're right. But we gotta keep trying, hell I do it just so I can sleep @ night.

I Voted to reelect Jimmy Carter. WE CAN WORK ON THE FOLKS OUR AGE.
I'M NOT DEAD YET!!!

[sabrina 1]

31. The lack of that vote doesn't bode well either for anyone who can't seem to resonate

with such a large demographic.

[pnwmom]

35. Hillary does fine among young women. As she does with older women.

Democrats in general don't do as well with white men -- and yet we've been winning lately on the basis of our demographics.

[sabrina 1]

52. She is losing the women's vote also. Mainly due to her policies which have so harmed

women and children, her support for the awful 'Welfare Reform Bill' eg, her constant lecturing about how people need to 'take responsibility' and how she doesn't want to 'encourage dependence'. All that 'pull up your bootstraps' nonsense from a very privileged woman who clearly has not clue about poor women and their children.

The more women listen to Sanders, then see how HE was against that now infamous 'Welfare Reform Bill' the more they are turning to him.

And of course you cannot claim to support women AND support WAR. See the statistics on what all of our wars, supported by Hillary, have done to women who were once independent, professionals now hurled back into medieval times.

[pnwmom]

53. That's an odd thing to think given how strong her support is among Democratic women.

And the debate tonight went very well both for her and for Bernie.


http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/hillary-clinton/

Oct 13, 2015

The race is close with very liberal voters (Clinton gets 45% to 41% for Sanders), men (Clinton gets 35%, Sanders 28%, Biden 24%), and younger voters (Clinton and Sanders tie at 36). Clinton is dominant with seniors (51% to 23% for Biden and 15% for Sanders), African Americans (Clinton gets 51% to 30% for Biden and 13% for Sanders), and women (Clinton gets 48% to 22% for Sanders and 17% for Biden.)

[sabrina 1]

54. You can't win wih just the now shrinking 'liberal base'. Both parties have lost

members since 2008, Dems registered voters, Dem Party (thanks Third Wayers) now down to only 32% of registered voters. Independent voters now the largest voting bloc in the country, which is historic, showing how disillusioned voters are with the old Status Quo which has so failed the PEOPLE while propping up corrupt Wall St criminals who so harmed millions of people with their greed and recklessness.

Bernie has now taken approx 25% of that 32%. But his main support is coming from previously non-voters (I just helped one female non voter register as a Dem this week because she wants to vote for Bernie. This is happening across the country, he is bringing previously disillusioned non-voters back into the system because of his long record on so many important issues.

And the rest of his support is coming from Independents AND moderate Republicans.

Iow, the polls you cite are only recording a very small segment of the electorate. And even there he has more support than he expected. And as more people get to know him, that too will increase.

He was the most searched candidate on Google tonight as many people saw him for the first time and wanted to know more.

[pnwmom]

58. It is funny that so many of the same people who criticize Hillary for being too centrist

applaud Bernie for drawing support from Independents and moderate Republicans.

There's a major disconnect here.

[cantbeserious]

28. When We Stand Together - No Citizen Need Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go

eom

[sabrina 1]

34. I knew you could say that again, and I'm glad you did!

[Uncle Joe]

29. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, sabrina.

[Faux pas]

33. Kickin'

[AtomicKitten]

37. Wonderful! k&r

[slipslidingaway]

43. knr n/t

[kelliekat44]

45. Talk about sound bites...Bernie has them. nt

[Enthusiast]

47. Kicked and recommended!

Way to go, Sabrina!

[certainot]

50. but are bernie supporters really 'getting his back?'

rw talk radio, worth 3 bil free republican advertising a year, will ramp up the stuff below, which includes joking about assassinations and if bernie was a teacher he'd be sleeping with his students.

and i'll bet a lot of the 90 unis endorsing 270 limbaugh radio stations also endorse some of m savage's 400 radio stations.

everything on bernie's agenda, and many of the things i would like him to do, would be a lot easier if those universities started honoring their mission statements and stop letting tea party radio stations use their community cred to sell advertising, racism, sexism, defunding of public ed, and global warming denial.

I was using Snowtape to sample a variety of Republican talk radio stations this Monday September 14, and caught some of the ubiquitous Michael (Wiener) Savage show.

These were cut from two 20 minute segments I recorded. There was more.

BERNIE SANDERS IS A
Schmuck

Liberalism is a mental disorder, Bernie’s an eg of someone who’s on medication, well he’s on medication obviously in my opinion he should be on severe thorazine in a bug house

He’s a retrovirus, not only a carrier of the marxist virus but he’s actually an infection himself

Schmuck, a lowlife of the lowest order a brooklyn commie, i know the type.... if they were a teacher they’d get fired for sleeping with a student

I knew the type, the grandfather stood on the corner of union square on a soapbox screaming about the wonders of communism even though he fled russia

Schmuck

(Bernie supporters) millennials, morons lived in their parents basement until yesterday

The clinton machine will not let him get there- it will be a pullonium bagel or an exploding knish, there’ll be an accident, a little advice for bernie- don’t jog in marcy park

Liberty university- why would they let this schmuck speak there? let this anti christian communist speak there?

What does that mean raised in a jewish family, non observant? he was a communist descended from jews!

Let him sell body parts, lunatic, too stupid to invest wisely

We're overrun by mexicans and syrians and this schmuck’s talking about income inequality

Steeped in marxism right down to the dirty suit, died in the wool loser, at least he’s not wearing a pantsuit, now if he came out in a pink pantsuit i’d say he has a better chance at the crossover vote

If he won i’d leave the country

Inarticulate lowlife, bad health, lifetime of mariajuana, bad red wine, tofu, probably enlarged breasts from the tofu, emaciated mentally and physically, can’t he get a hair cut? the breath on this guy, halitosis

I want to ridicule him, i want to tear him apart like a cat with a mouse, i’d invite him on the show anytime he wants,

Moron moron moron sick

[BeanMusical]

55. Kick and R

That's a really great news!

[raouldukelives]

64. K&R Only by the will of the invested are so many molested.

Every dollar in Wall St is a dollar against not just solving our issues, but even addressing them to begin with.

Now that corporations are people, it makes it much easier to tell who ones friends are, and who one is willing to go to bat for. In the case of shareholders, that would be the most backward, greedy, racist, warmongering, misogynistic, science denying friends one could have.

The youth, as in the past, may have to learn the hard way that money trumps not only peace but all of our futures as well.

[George II]

66. The only people who I've seen play the "Red Card" have been republicans. But sadly....

....too many people are playing the "reverse Red Card".