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NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 11:37 AM Oct 2015

Alan Grayson: Who will win the first Democratic Presidential Debate?

Who will win the first Democratic Presidential Debate? I do not know.

There is, however, one debate that I can abate, deflate and negate, right now. And that is the debate between principles and effectiveness.

I’m not taking sides, but let me tell you something about Bernie Sanders that you probably didn’t know. He served for 16 years in the U.S. House of Representatives, and for much of that time, Bernie passed more amendments on the Floor of the House than any other Member of the House. That’s right: the one Member who belonged to neither party passed more amendments than any Member who belonged to either party. Good, solid progressive amendments. Lots of them.

He was principled, and he was effective.

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Alan Grayson: Who will win the first Democratic Presidential Debate? (Original Post) NorthCarolina Oct 2015 OP
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And yet, over and over, on Democratic blogs, we've been told, by Democrats, that he's done 'NOTHING' Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #2
Everything that comes out of the Super Pacs smear campaigns are LIES. Just start with that premise. sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #3
+100! senz Oct 2015 #7
When someone has connections in the media INdemo Oct 2015 #4
That was NorthCarolina Oct 2015 #5
Yes! And they shout this lie over and over. senz Oct 2015 #8
K&R -- this is wonderful. senz Oct 2015 #6
You know now why Robbins Oct 2015 #9
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Oct 2015 #10

Response to NorthCarolina (Original post)

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
2. And yet, over and over, on Democratic blogs, we've been told, by Democrats, that he's done 'NOTHING'
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 11:39 AM
Oct 2015

- that he has no accomplishments for all his years in Congress. Usually at the same time we're being flooded with lists of Hillary Clinton's 'accomplishments', many of which are simply being given awards for keeping herself in the spotlight and tying herself to various charitable issues.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
3. Everything that comes out of the Super Pacs smear campaigns are LIES. Just start with that premise.
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 11:48 AM
Oct 2015

That's what all the dirty money buys. LIES and words like 'demogoguery' aimed at a candidate who has never, ever engaged in anything but the truth.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
7. +100!
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 12:17 PM
Oct 2015

We need to keep this in mind. Never be fooled or intimidated by the liars' bold claims. They lie. That's all we need to know about them: they lie.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
4. When someone has connections in the media
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 12:01 PM
Oct 2015

And the news print those connections are sometimes called on for favors and will respond to the individuals request and even stretch the truth and alter the real facts. This has happen on several occasions especially since Bernie Sanders has proven that he is in the nominating process to win and in fact very capable of winning.Whether that media is a Generic or a well established news organization they do so then will argue like hell the facts are correct knowing full well they aren't.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
8. Yes! And they shout this lie over and over.
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 12:19 PM
Oct 2015

I wish there were some way to rub their lying noses in Grayson's words. Wonder if there's a video?

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
6. K&R -- this is wonderful.
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 12:15 PM
Oct 2015

Grayson is a true progressive, a fellow legislator, and he knows what he's talking about.

What he said is as good as an endorsement.

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
9. You know now why
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 12:21 PM
Oct 2015

DMS doesn't like alan grayson and is doing everything possable to make sure he isn't democratic nominee for senate In florida.

let's remember for 16 years bernie was in house dems only controlled the house for first 4 years.

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