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Tue Oct 13, 2015, 02:49 PM

 

Why Bernie Sanders is going to be President, in two words

HE RULES!!!!!!!!!!

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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(And there is nothing anyone can do to undermine how awesome he is!!!)

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Reply Why Bernie Sanders is going to be President, in two words (Original post)
darkangel218 Oct 2015 OP
Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #1
darkangel218 Oct 2015 #2
mhatrw Oct 2015 #62
72DejaVu Oct 2015 #69
Beaverhausen Oct 2015 #73
darkangel218 Oct 2015 #99
George II Oct 2015 #169
FSogol Oct 2015 #100
darkangel218 Oct 2015 #102
FSogol Oct 2015 #104
darkangel218 Oct 2015 #105
FSogol Oct 2015 #107
darkangel218 Oct 2015 #108
FSogol Oct 2015 #109
darkangel218 Oct 2015 #112
FSogol Oct 2015 #113
darkangel218 Oct 2015 #118
FSogol Oct 2015 #119
darkangel218 Oct 2015 #121
FSogol Oct 2015 #124
darkangel218 Oct 2015 #129
FSogol Oct 2015 #134
darkangel218 Oct 2015 #150
FSogol Oct 2015 #170
darkangel218 Oct 2015 #174
Joe Chi Minh Oct 2015 #154
peacebird Oct 2015 #46
Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #47
daleanime Oct 2015 #101
WHEN CRABS ROAR Oct 2015 #131
daleanime Oct 2015 #136
JDPriestly Oct 2015 #133
Beaverhausen Oct 2015 #50
Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #57
Beaverhausen Oct 2015 #60
mhatrw Oct 2015 #65
darkangel218 Oct 2015 #142
Gore1FL Oct 2015 #152
darkangel218 Oct 2015 #156
Gore1FL Oct 2015 #165
darkangel218 Oct 2015 #167
Gore1FL Oct 2015 #173
FSogol Oct 2015 #89
darkangel218 Oct 2015 #161
FSogol Oct 2015 #171
72DejaVu Oct 2015 #3
darkangel218 Oct 2015 #4
72DejaVu Oct 2015 #6
darkangel218 Oct 2015 #7
72DejaVu Oct 2015 #12
rhett o rick Oct 2015 #11
72DejaVu Oct 2015 #14
rhett o rick Oct 2015 #18
72DejaVu Oct 2015 #22
rhett o rick Oct 2015 #31
72DejaVu Oct 2015 #38
NCTraveler Oct 2015 #23
rhett o rick Oct 2015 #28
darkangel218 Oct 2015 #34
NCTraveler Oct 2015 #39
rhett o rick Oct 2015 #48
randome Oct 2015 #80
Bobbie Jo Oct 2015 #168
darkangel218 Oct 2015 #30
rhett o rick Oct 2015 #40
NCTraveler Oct 2015 #41
darkangel218 Oct 2015 #21
72DejaVu Oct 2015 #26
NCTraveler Oct 2015 #27
DhhD Oct 2015 #147
Bubzer Oct 2015 #143
Brainstormy Oct 2015 #5
philly_bob Oct 2015 #9
rhett o rick Oct 2015 #15
72DejaVu Oct 2015 #29
darkangel218 Oct 2015 #32
cheapdate Oct 2015 #90
randome Oct 2015 #93
darkangel218 Oct 2015 #94
NCTraveler Oct 2015 #8
darkangel218 Oct 2015 #16
NCTraveler Oct 2015 #20
darkangel218 Oct 2015 #25
NCTraveler Oct 2015 #33
darkangel218 Oct 2015 #36
72DejaVu Oct 2015 #42
rhett o rick Oct 2015 #37
NCTraveler Oct 2015 #45
rhett o rick Oct 2015 #51
pinebox Oct 2015 #67
cheapdate Oct 2015 #103
ohheckyeah Oct 2015 #10
darkangel218 Oct 2015 #17
ohheckyeah Oct 2015 #49
darkangel218 Oct 2015 #177
rhett o rick Oct 2015 #24
ohheckyeah Oct 2015 #52
Sheepshank Oct 2015 #13
darkangel218 Oct 2015 #19
hrmjustin Oct 2015 #35
rhett o rick Oct 2015 #53
mhatrw Oct 2015 #56
FSogol Oct 2015 #63
hrmjustin Oct 2015 #59
FSogol Oct 2015 #43
darkangel218 Oct 2015 #68
FSogol Oct 2015 #74
darkangel218 Oct 2015 #148
Beaverhausen Oct 2015 #44
darkangel218 Oct 2015 #55
Beaverhausen Oct 2015 #58
darkangel218 Oct 2015 #66
Beaverhausen Oct 2015 #106
FSogol Oct 2015 #110
FSogol Oct 2015 #79
darkangel218 Oct 2015 #120
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darkangel218 Oct 2015 #61
FSogol Oct 2015 #70
darkangel218 Oct 2015 #72
FSogol Oct 2015 #78
darkangel218 Oct 2015 #85
FSogol Oct 2015 #87
darkangel218 Oct 2015 #92
FSogol Oct 2015 #95
darkangel218 Oct 2015 #96
FSogol Oct 2015 #97
darkangel218 Oct 2015 #98
mhatrw Oct 2015 #75
darkangel218 Oct 2015 #83
pinebox Oct 2015 #64
wendylaroux Oct 2015 #71
darkangel218 Oct 2015 #76
mhatrw Oct 2015 #77
FSogol Oct 2015 #82
darkangel218 Oct 2015 #86
wendylaroux Oct 2015 #81
hrmjustin Oct 2015 #84
Perseus Oct 2015 #125
hrmjustin Oct 2015 #126
Ino Oct 2015 #88
darkangel218 Oct 2015 #91
SoapBox Oct 2015 #111
darkangel218 Oct 2015 #114
beaglelover Oct 2015 #115
darkangel218 Oct 2015 #116
beaglelover Oct 2015 #127
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darkangel218 Oct 2015 #122
Perseus Oct 2015 #123
zappaman Oct 2015 #128
FSogol Oct 2015 #130
zappaman Oct 2015 #137
in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #132
SoapBox Oct 2015 #145
Enthusiast Oct 2015 #135
Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #138
darkangel218 Oct 2015 #140
Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #146
Brickbat Oct 2015 #139
darkangel218 Oct 2015 #141
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Babel_17 Oct 2015 #149
darkangel218 Oct 2015 #151
Babel_17 Oct 2015 #155
darkangel218 Oct 2015 #157
sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #153
darkangel218 Oct 2015 #158
Warren DeMontague Oct 2015 #159
humbled_opinion Oct 2015 #166
zappaman Oct 2015 #160
darkangel218 Oct 2015 #162
zappaman Oct 2015 #163
FSogol Oct 2015 #172
humbled_opinion Oct 2015 #164
Kali Oct 2015 #175
McCamy Taylor Oct 2015 #176
darkangel218 Oct 2015 #178

Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 02:50 PM

1. This graphic seems like a right wing parody of Bernie

 

Last edited Tue Oct 13, 2015, 05:10 PM - Edit history (2)

It's actually an attack against Bernie which was picked up from a right wing website.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=672129

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #1)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 02:51 PM

2. Sorry we kick ass!!!

 



Cheers!!!

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #2)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:51 PM

62. You are not fooling anyone.

The image is RW "parody" of Sanders' stance against wealth inequality and your OTT championing of the image is not fooling anyone with two working brain cells to rub together.

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Response to 72DejaVu (Reply #69)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:56 PM

73. good catch!

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Response to 72DejaVu (Reply #69)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:25 PM

99. I don't care what RW parties are using this meme to discredit Bernie

 

The truth stands, that we must help the poor before we eliminate poverty!!!!! It's fucking common sense!

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #99)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 07:47 PM

169. Isn't posting material from rightwing internet sites some sort of DU violation?

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Response to 72DejaVu (Reply #69)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:26 PM

100. ^^^^^^^Here is the RW source of the OP's anti-Sanders graphic^^^^^^^^^^

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Response to FSogol (Reply #100)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:28 PM

102. You attacked me without any credit for, earlier, saying I was calling you

 

Ma'am in the past. I have not. You are trying to discredit my OP now, by tying it to RW sites.

Shame on you.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #102)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:32 PM

104. Is it that hard to admit that the graphic is anti-Bernie and substitue a pro-Bernie one?

The graphic came from a RW wing site. It doesn't agree with Sanders thoughts on poverty.
I have not attacked you, but you are mistaken about the word subsidize. Your graphic bashes Sanders, a candidate you claim to support. Don't you see the problem with it?

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Response to FSogol (Reply #104)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:35 PM

105. It's not a RW graphic, I took it off DU, its been posted here before.

 

And what about your personal attack???give proof i have called you "Ma'am" before, or delete your post accusing me I have said that in the past!!!

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #105)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:37 PM

107. Haven't I already responded to that 2 or 3 times? Why not delete your attacks on my gender?

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Response to FSogol (Reply #107)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:38 PM

108. Delete your personal attacks against me!!!

 

I haven't talked to you I years, and your profile never said your gender back then. You have been on ignore until the a few months back when I took everyone off.

Maybe you should mention your gender in your profile if you want others notbto guess!!!

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #108)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:39 PM

109. Through the years?

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Response to FSogol (Reply #109)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:41 PM

112. Since '13

 

At least.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #112)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:43 PM

113. I've never attacked you, except you consider disagreeing with you to be an attack.



Post all my "attacks."

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Response to FSogol (Reply #113)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:48 PM

118. Go DU search it if you forgot.

 

I had nothing but nasty posts from you , hence you were on ignore.

Now post proof I have called you Ma'am before. I have not.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #118)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:51 PM

119. So, you got nothing, right?


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Response to FSogol (Reply #119)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:52 PM

121. You started the meta shit.

 

Post proof or delete!!

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #121)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:55 PM

124. I did explain it in post 95 which you responded to.

Try reading before responding.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #124)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 05:03 PM

129. You had no gender specified in your profile years ago, and I apologized

 

if I ever refered to you in a wrong gender. I remember clearly though, I have never called you Ma'am before, so you should retract that.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #129)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 05:09 PM

134. I've always had a gender listed. You really don't read what people write. I'll explain it again:

You called me "she" once and "ma'am" once. That is two times using the wrong gender. 1 time (she) + 1 time (ma'am) is 2 times calling me the wrong gender. That's why I said twice.

1+1 = 2. You apologized in this thread and I accepted that apology.

You keep calling me out for supposed attacks which never happened. Will you apologize?

You also posted an anti-Bernie graphic. If you are really a Sanders supporter you should change the graphic.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #134)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 05:33 PM

150. No you have not.

 

Summon Skinner to vouch for that. I always look at posters profiles before addressing them.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #150)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 07:50 PM

170. As long as DU had genders, mine has been listed. You obviously don't look at

profiles first because you got my wrong twice.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #170)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 09:35 PM

174. I look at profiles ALL the time.

 

Ask Skinner when was last time you updated yours.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #104)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 05:42 PM

154. No. Only Republicans seek to trivialise righteous indignation, and

you seem to have been suckered as dark angel said.

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #1)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:39 PM

46. It is, isn't it! Bernie will make an awesome President!

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Response to peacebird (Reply #46)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:41 PM

47. Yes....telling the electorate that you want to subsidize poverty is brilliant. nt

 

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #47)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:26 PM

101. Because the electorate is consistently told....

to not care about the poor? And we should let that go unchallenged?

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Response to daleanime (Reply #101)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 05:03 PM

131. The electorate is also consistently told...

We haven't got the money, we haven't got the money

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Response to WHEN CRABS ROAR (Reply #131)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 05:10 PM

136. That too.....

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #47)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 05:08 PM

133. I do want to subsidize poverty.

Because the poor are making the rich wealthy.

and the rich get wealthy thanks to subsidies especially for gas and oil.

So I do want to "subsidize" that is share some of our wealth with the poor.

I'm all for that.

Conservatives think that helping (or subsidizing if you will) the poor is a bad thing. They think it makes people lazy.

Well I think that too much wealth makes people wealthy.

I'm for helping the poor.

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Response to peacebird (Reply #46)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:42 PM

50. "Trust Me - It's gonna be awesome" sounds like another candidate from the other side

I think some here are being fooled by a RW meme. read it again. closely.

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Response to Beaverhausen (Reply #50)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:48 PM

57. Yep. nt

 

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #57)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:50 PM

60. 12 suckers have already rec'd this post

my god. this is nuts.

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Response to Beaverhausen (Reply #60)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:52 PM

65. 12 Sanders' haters and people who don't read carefully. nt

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Response to mhatrw (Reply #65)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 05:19 PM

142. Sanders haters???

 

Wow..OK. So I guess you are against subsidising the needy??

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #142)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 05:38 PM

152. It's a right wing meme that uses language meant to slur, not support. n/t

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Response to Gore1FL (Reply #152)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 05:43 PM

156. The truth is not a "meme"

 

We need to help the poor, before they help themselves.

Rich assholes and wall Streeters hate it, obviously.

Sanders is only speaking the truth. We need to help our own people first and foremost.

Subsiding them, means only helping them until they can help themselves. And it has nada to do with the joke welfare system present today.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #156)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 06:11 PM

165. That's all good but let's not post right-wing memes meant to slur those things.

Let's especially not send such slurs to the greatest page.

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Response to Gore1FL (Reply #165)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 06:51 PM

167. Do you have a problem with the truth??

 

RWs can make any meme anytime. This is not one of them .

Do you not support "subsidising the poor"?? Till they get back on their feet??? I'm trying to understand what is the problem.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #167)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 08:42 PM

173. No problem with the truth.

The presentation in a way that makes the truth look like a lie is what I have a problem with.

If you can't see how the phrasing spins it negatively, there is really nothing further I can add.

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Response to Beaverhausen (Reply #60)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:09 PM

89. Subsidize Stupidity Next!

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Response to FSogol (Reply #89)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 05:57 PM

161. "Subsidize Stupidity Next!"

 

Disgusting..

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #161)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 07:52 PM

171. Sad, really.

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 02:58 PM

3. "Subsidize poverty"?

What the hell does that mean?

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Response to 72DejaVu (Reply #3)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:04 PM

4. Welcome to DU!

 

( stick around, you will learn a lot about the Democratic candidates!)

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #4)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:14 PM

6. I've been here since 2001, and I've actually met 2 of them in person

But thanks for the only slightly condescending welcome.



(And no, I didn't change my name because I was banned or some such nonsense. I had an unrelated privacy issue)

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Response to 72DejaVu (Reply #6)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:15 PM

7. Then you should answer your own question.

 

Bernie's goals have been vastly discussed here for quite a while now.

Welcome back!

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #7)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:19 PM

12. Bernie wants to "subsidize poverty"?

I don't think so. I think he'd prefer to eliminate it.

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Response to 72DejaVu (Reply #6)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:18 PM

11. Why don't you tell us what it means to you? And if you agree with

 

the sentiment.

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #11)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:21 PM

14. Why don't you tell us what you think subsidizing means?

To subsidize something is to support it's continuation.


Subsidize affordable housing? Yes.

Subsidize fuel assistance? Yes

Subsidize transportation infrastructure? Yes.

Subsidize poverty? Uh, no thanks. I'd rather do away with it.

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Response to 72DejaVu (Reply #14)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:23 PM

18. I agree the wording is sloppy. But you seem to want to discuss wording rather than the

 

intent. Do you agree with the intent of the OP?

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #18)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:26 PM

22. That Bernie is awesome? No I do not.

I feel no sense of awe when I contemplate Bernie Sanders.

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Response to 72DejaVu (Reply #22)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:29 PM

31. How about the idea of taxing wealth to eliminate poverty? nm

 

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #31)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:33 PM

38. I'm all for that

Of course, that would be the opposite of "subsidizing poverty".

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #18)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:27 PM

23. I don't. Sanders doesn't want to subsidize poverty.

 

The intent of the op is patently false with respect to Sanders beliefs. He isn't a trickle downer. He wants to end poverty.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #23)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:29 PM

28. Distract, distract, distract. nm

 

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #28)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:31 PM

34. Exactly.

 

Too bad they fail so quickly

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #28)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:34 PM

39. Clearing up a dishonest statement about Sanders....

 

and saying he wants to eliminate poverty is a distraction? This place keeps getting better and better. Someone brings a very poorly worded graphic here, I correct them and let them know that Sanders wants to eliminate poverty, not subsidize it; and you call it a distraction.

Have it your way. I will change my tune to agree with you. Sanders wants to continue to subsidize poverty in this country to ensure we have a whole group without a voice. I personally don't believe that but you seem to want to argue for exactly that.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #39)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:41 PM

48. You are using the sloppy wording to distract from the obvious message. A message that you obviously

 

disagree with. There are two sides to this class war and it looks like you aren't on the side that wants the wealth gap to be reduced. 16,000,000 American children live in poverty and another 16,000,000 live in low income homes. Goldman-Sachs and the billionaires are ok with that. Sen Sanders is not.

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #48)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:02 PM

80. The 'sloppy wording' comes from a Sanders-hater, if you'd care to look at the link upthread.

 

'Subsidize poverty'. Good God.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

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Response to randome (Reply #80)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 07:44 PM

168. This thread...



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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #23)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:29 PM

30. Sanders does want to increase taxes on the rich and decrease taxes on the poor

 

Facts are facts, no matter how much you twist them.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #30)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:36 PM

40. They don't want to eliminate poverty at the expense of the wealthy. HRC will help maintain the

 

status quo of the wealth gap growing even wider. I think those here that disparage Sen Sanders' message think the 1% were given their wealth by God to take care of the rest of us.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #30)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:36 PM

41. Your statement here is one hundred percent correct.

 

The graphic you brought here is patently false. As I have said, Sanders has brought a lot of new people into the process. They can even put graphics together. They should just understand a candidates position before they do. The graphic you brought here is patently false with respect to Sanders position.

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Response to 72DejaVu (Reply #14)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:25 PM

21. See post 16.

 

He is referring to taxing the rich and going after Wall Street.

Nice try though.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #21)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:27 PM

26. And he does so articulately

This meme, less so.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #21)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:28 PM

27. Raising the minumum wage is not taxing the rich, going after wall street, or subsidizing poverty.

 

Of all posts you could point to I wouldn't point to that one. lol.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #27)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 05:28 PM

147. Finally, its is a Living Wage and Minumum Wage that Sanders is campaigning for not subsidy!

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Response to 72DejaVu (Reply #6)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 05:22 PM

143. Some people presume if your profile doesn't reflect a "proper attendance" that you're a nobody.

Your profile reads "Member since: Fri Oct 9, 2015, 05:32 PM"... that's probably the reason for the reaction.

Kinda odd behavior for Dems if you ask me. We're supposed to be the inclusive group (trolls aside of course).

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Response to 72DejaVu (Reply #3)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:13 PM

5. I had the same reaction

sloppy language.

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Response to Brainstormy (Reply #5)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:16 PM

9. Subsidies are used to encourage something.

The language is sloppy -- and the condescending welcome was unfriendly.

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Response to philly_bob (Reply #9)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:22 PM

15. I agree the language is sloppy but we know the intent. I understand the condescention.

 

In lieu of the poster recommending better wording, asking the question appears to be aimed at disparaging the message.

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #15)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:29 PM

29. It is not my responsibility to help the Sanders campaign hone it's message

They ought to hire some professionals to help with that.

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Response to 72DejaVu (Reply #29)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:30 PM

32. I see. Lol

 

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #15)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:11 PM

90. I feel like I've crossed into bizarro-land.

I have no idea what is genuine, what is parody, or what is intentionally subversive.

That meme screams parody. There is no other way that my brain can process it. It's almost like a parody of a parody -- that is, a DU parody of what a right-wing parody of Bernie Sanders might look like.

If the language was merely "sloppy", then they coincidentally nailed it, and by "nailed it" I mean they coincidentally captured in one word every right-wing or conservative's cartoonish conception of Bernie Sanders the "socialist".

We "subsidize" the things we want to encourage. There isn't any other way to use the word.

I'm truly stumped.

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Response to cheapdate (Reply #90)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:14 PM

93. That's just what the conspiracy makers WANT you to believe!!!

 

They are rife with triple and quadruple agents! Trust no one!!!
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

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Response to cheapdate (Reply #90)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:15 PM

94. We subsidize things , to help the poor , before we eliminate poverty!!

 

You are thinking in the current state of mind. Which is much different from what Bernie stands for.

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:16 PM

8. Subsidizing poverty is what we are half ass doing today.

 

It is a failed proposition and not one Sanders believes in. Might want to change the graphic.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #8)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:22 PM

16. No.

 

Do you not believe that universal healthcare belongs to that??? And Increasing the minimum wage to $15/hour, to fight poverty?? We are going to subsidize it by taxing the rich what they deserve go be taxed, and giving a break to the working poor, so they may see a light on the end of the tunnel. We are not going to start unnecessary wars. We are not going to invest what we don't need in the military. We are going to invest it into OUR OWN PEOPLE!! A concept so strange to so many other presidential aspirants.

That, NC.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #16)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:25 PM

20. "And Increasing the minimum wage to $15/hour, to fight poverty"

 

That is not subsidizing poverty. Subsidizing poverty is what we do today and Sanders doesn't support todays economy. He wants to eliminate poverty. Not sure why you are making his position sound like trickle down. It isn't and the graphic is very poorly worded at best. Really it's just flat out wrong.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #20)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:27 PM

25. By taxing the super wealthy we can achieve that

 

We are not subsidizing poverty today. How much money does a family get in food stamps?? They most likely go to bed hungry, since that is not nearly enough! And don't even get me started on healthcare and housing!!

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #25)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:30 PM

33. By taxing the wealthy we can achieve subsidizing poverty. lol.

 

I'm glad Sanders doesn't agree with that. He is a little ahead of the curve on that one and wants to eliminate poverty, not subsidize it.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #33)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:32 PM

36. Eliminate it, yes. You have to subsidize it FIRST!!!

 

How the fuck is anyone going to get out of the hole without help first????

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #36)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:36 PM

42. You only subsidize things you want to keep, not things you want to eliminate

Helping people out of poverty is, by no definition of the term "subsidizing poverty."

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #33)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:33 PM

37. Trying to work around your attempts at distraction, I'm guessing you don't agree with taxing

 

the wealthy and eliminating poverty. Goldman-Sachs would be a good choice for your candidate.

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #37)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:38 PM

45. Second time you have said I am distracting by saying Sanders wants to eliminate poverty.

 

Very strange. I guess we disagree. I think Sanders wants to eliminate poverty. You keep calling that a distraction. I think the poorly put together graphic showing Sanders in a dishonest light is the distraction.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #45)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:43 PM

51. So you agree with Sen Sanders' desire to eliminate poverty by taxing the wealthy? nm

 

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #25)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:53 PM

67. Good point, damn good!

 

Really good points there.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #16)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:30 PM

103. Then the message is "Tax the wealthy and invest it in the people."

Not "subsidize poverty". Holy cow!

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:18 PM

10. Oh good grief...

do you have pom poms to wave, too?

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Response to ohheckyeah (Reply #10)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:23 PM

17. Jealous much??

 

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #17)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:41 PM

49. Of what?

Grownups acting like 12 year old girls at a Justin Bieber concert?

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Response to ohheckyeah (Reply #49)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 03:11 AM

177. Read what you wrote. n/t

 

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Response to ohheckyeah (Reply #10)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:27 PM

24. Let me guess your point. Since it bothers you that Sen Sanders wants to tax wealth to

 

eliminate poverty, and you are critical of the OP, do you believe in supply side economics?

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #24)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:43 PM

52. LOL

See my post above if you want to see my point.

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:19 PM

13. "because if you wish hard enough, it will come true"

 

is more than 2 words.


But it sounds adorable.

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Response to Sheepshank (Reply #13)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:23 PM

19. The truth is not a "wish".

 

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:31 PM

35. What will subsidizing property look like?

 

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #35)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:44 PM

53. Sen Sanders wants to eliminate poverty, while Goldman-Sachs and the billionaires don't give a crap.

 

Which side are you on?

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #53)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:47 PM

56. How can you not see that this is a RW "parody" meme?

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Response to mhatrw (Reply #56)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:51 PM

63. Seriously?

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #53)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:49 PM

59. That was not my question. What will this look like?

 

How will he do it?

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:37 PM

43. Subsidize poverty? I'm guessing this is a RW graphic intended to bash about Sanders and that

the poster might have missed its true meaning.

It would be better to delete it than to argue that subsidizing poverty is something Sanders talks about.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #43)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:54 PM

68. Is that what you understand from it???

 

Wow!!

Good luck to your candor in the debate, she's gonna need it!

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #68)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:58 PM

74. She? It is strange a Sanders supporter would promote what is obviously a RW hit graphic on Sanders.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #74)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 05:30 PM

148. Are you calling me or Sanders "RW"??

 

I'm trying to understand your repetitive attacks. I have already explained you that they are not RW meme. So are you called us RW?? Why are you repeating the same thing over and over again????

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:38 PM

44. Wouldn't "eliminate poverty" be a better goal?

WTF?

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Response to Beaverhausen (Reply #44)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:46 PM

55. You can't "eliminate" poverty without HELPING the poor first!!

 

No one can do that. Right back at you re "WTF"!

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #55)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:48 PM

58. are you serious?

What was posted is a RW meme meant to criticize Sanders. Why can't you figure that out?

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Response to Beaverhausen (Reply #58)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:52 PM

66. It's not a RW meme.

 

Those who are seeing /imagining that first, before understanding that is WHAT WE NEED IN THIS COUNTRY, fail miserably!

Sorry I'm not worshipping Hillary.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #66)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:36 PM

106. Try this - post it in the Bernie Sanders Group and see how his real supporters feel about it

I'm guessing they won't like it.

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Response to Beaverhausen (Reply #106)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:41 PM

110. +1 n/t

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Response to Beaverhausen (Reply #58)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:01 PM

79. Totally hopeless. Sometimes you just gotta laugh.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #79)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:51 PM

120. Yes, like to your false accusations.

 

No kidding.

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Response to Post removed (Reply #54)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:50 PM

61. There is nothing wrong with subsidizing poverty

 

So people can get a chance to get off the ground and shine again!! Go look at Bernie's agenda!!! You will find your answers.

And please refrain from unwarranted attacks. It's childish.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #61)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:54 PM

70. Please learn what subsidize means. It is 180 degrees from Sander's message. n/t

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Response to FSogol (Reply #70)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:56 PM

72. Uh huh!!

 

Keep your personal attacks to yourself, Ma'am.Sorry your candidate is losing.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #72)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:00 PM

78. Why do you keep calling me ma'am?

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Response to FSogol (Reply #78)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:04 PM

85. I only called you once that.

 

Out of respect
Please post any other time I have addressed you as Ma"am.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #85)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:07 PM

87. You also refered to me a "she.' Why?



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Response to FSogol (Reply #87)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:12 PM

92. Please provide proof as I have called you Ma'am before

 

I have not. You should delete your flamefest.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #92)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:15 PM

95. She and ma'am are both female terms. Since I am male, I asked to why you refereed to me as

female (once as ma'am and once as she). You said out of respect which also makes no sense.

As for the flamefest, you are the one posting RW anti-Bernie graphics, not me. Several people tried to explain your misunderstanding of the word subsidize, but you ignored them. You should delete the anti-Sanders crap.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #95)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:20 PM

96. I thought you were a female, my bad.

 

As far as the "subsidies", I do not care for Hillary propaganda. If she has the magical wand and make the poverty disappear without subsiding for it first, then so be it. Let's hear her magical plan tonite.

(Don't hold your breath, obviously).

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #96)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:22 PM

97. The dictionary isn't "Hillary propaganda"

Good luck, I guess.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #97)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:23 PM

98. Thanks.

 

And same to you.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #61)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:58 PM

75. Poverty is bad. Sanders wants to win the War on Poverty.

The reason you tax wealth is to distribute that wealth more fairly and compassionately. That goal is to reduce and finally eliminate poverty. You are championing a moronic wingnut attempt at lampooning Sanders' platform on wealth inequality. If you cannot see that, I'd advise you to look up the word "subsidize" in the dictionary and consider who would want to apply that verb to anything he or she desperately wants to eliminate.

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Response to mhatrw (Reply #75)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:02 PM

83. I am not doing what you're accusing me of.

 

The welfare system is a joke, at this point and time. The federal minimum wage is a joke. Sanders is asking for major changes in the tax system and in minimum wage ( he proposes $15 minimum federally)

One cannot get out if the whole when one has no food to eat.

I know it, because I've been there. I dont need a book to teach me what it means.

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:52 PM

64. This one is perhaps better

 

Catch!

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:56 PM

71. Subsidize the poor,

to lift them out of poverty?

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Response to wendylaroux (Reply #71)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:58 PM

76. Both!!

 

Subsidize them first, and give them a chance. Not the joke that the welfare and minimum wage is today.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #76)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:00 PM

77. Are you related to Lazlo Toth? nt

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Response to mhatrw (Reply #77)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:02 PM

82. DUzy!

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Response to FSogol (Reply #82)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:06 PM

86. To you, maybe.

 

I am still waiting to see your response to the accusations that I "keep calling you Ma'am'. You must have me confused with another poster.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #76)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:02 PM

81. I have read about this,

it is in Denmark? Other places,can't remember right now.What do they call that?

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:02 PM

84. How will he subsidize property? Can you please explain this?

 

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #84)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:55 PM

125. Right...I just posted something about that...that is the wrong motto

 

You don't subsidize poverty, you eliminate it.

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Response to Perseus (Reply #125)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:57 PM

126. Well i don't agree with eliminating it but definitely not subsidizing.

 

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:08 PM

88. I thought this was some kind of sarcastic post.

I'm flabbergasted you think this is a good graphic. Childish & silly.

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Response to Ino (Reply #88)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:11 PM

91. Why is it silly??

 

Do you think we can use magical powers and eliminate poverty without HELPING the poor first???

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:41 PM

111. Trust and Honesty

That's the two words I use.

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Response to SoapBox (Reply #111)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:43 PM

114. +1

 

Truth, honesty, having a heart, wishing the best for the people, hating wars, loving peace, feeling compassion

This is why HE RULES!!!!!

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:45 PM

115. Good luck selling that to the majority of voters in the USA! Will never happen. Go Hillary!

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Response to beaglelover (Reply #115)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:47 PM

116. Lmao!!! Go Hillary .. To nowhere lol.

 

Cheers!

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #116)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:58 PM

127. When are you coming back to DI?? We miss you.

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)


Response to Post removed (Reply #117)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:54 PM

122. They're desperate tonite. Nt

 

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:54 PM

123. "Subsidize Poverty"????

 

Not sure if this has to be reworded...I can see the wrong side taking on that and running with it...

Correct me if I am wrong, but you don't "subsidize poverty" you "eliminate", subsidizing sounds like perpetuating...

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 05:01 PM

128. Wow, this is just....sad.

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Response to zappaman (Reply #128)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 05:03 PM

130. 31 recs and gowing.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #130)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 05:12 PM

137. With "supporters" like these?

who needs detractors?

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 05:07 PM

132. HE'S ETHICAL!!!!!!!!!!

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Response to in_cog_ni_to (Reply #132)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 05:26 PM

145. ^***This!***^

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 05:09 PM

135. Kicked and recommended!

Yay, Bernie!

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 05:13 PM

138. Gosh, angel, even I don't cite the NRA, then play bull-in-the-ring with it. nt

 

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Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #138)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 05:17 PM

140. Good luck to you, if that's what you think the quote means .

 

Sad..

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #140)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 05:27 PM

146. Sad is right. nt

 

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 05:14 PM

139. This thread is hilarious.

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Response to Brickbat (Reply #139)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 05:18 PM

141. Bernie is actually quite serious about helping the poor.

 

I wonder why do you find it hilarious...

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #141)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 05:24 PM

144. That's not what I find hilarious.

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 05:31 PM

149. If the OP is meant to deride the Sanders campaign, well, it's free speech

But I'm going to wonder if it's OK to post such while presumably using extreme irony. Lines blur and the term "false flag" comes to mind. It's distracting, in other words.

That's my 2 cents, YMMV. As a graphic for deriding the Sanders campaign, it's OK of its sort and doesn't offend me. I suppose it's interesting to see what will be used against Senator Sanders as our nominee so I'm OK with seeing it at Democratic Underground.

But like I imply, the graphic is what it is and it's a bit disruptive to deny how it is used.

Cheers!

Edit: If that graphic was originally posted as being pro-Sanders, and not to mock his campaign, I was wrong in assuming otherwise, obviously. And following from that I would withdraw my issue with it here. Though even then it's controversial approach to sending its message should be recognized.

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Response to Babel_17 (Reply #149)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 05:38 PM

151. It's not disruptive.

 

The Wall Street lovers find it unsettling nevertheless.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #151)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 05:42 PM

155. OK. I edited my post above before seeing your reply.

Have a good night, I'm getting ready for the debate.

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Response to Babel_17 (Reply #155)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 05:44 PM

157. Same here!

 

Cheers!!!!

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 05:40 PM

153. He is awesome and nothing can change that, though they're trying really hard!

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #153)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 05:44 PM

158. And failing miserably!

 





Go Bernie!!!!!!!

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 05:45 PM

159. ...because he pisses off right wing barglemonkeys with a basic knowledge of photoshop?

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Response to Warren DeMontague (Reply #159)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 06:12 PM

166. I just googled barglemonkey.... LOL n/t

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 05:45 PM

160. I wonder if he will say he wants to "subsidize poverty" at the debate tonight?

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Response to zappaman (Reply #160)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 05:58 PM

162. The truth.

 

I assume you won't have a problem with that.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #162)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 05:59 PM

163. Is the truth that he wants to "subsidize poverty"?

Take your time...

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Response to zappaman (Reply #160)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 07:54 PM

172. LOL.

Stop, please stop....

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 06:06 PM

164. I don't know anybody that is

advocating for taxing the rich in order to subsidize poverty, that is just rightwing nonsense. What I believe in is everyone paying their fair share so that everyone advances equally in society and certainly not gaming the system so it only helps those who are very wealthy. If you give the poor a fair wage and a fair shot at a good job then that in itself would end poverty.

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 12:35 AM

175. another classic!



darkangel218 (11,961 posts)

Why Bernie Sanders is going to be President, in two words
HE RULES!!!!!!!!!!





!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(And there is nothing anyone can do to undermine how awesome he is!!!)


and in case your image or post dissapears, one can find it here on this nutty blog blog - http://christophercantwell.com/2015/06/07/bernie-sanders-is-the-most-dangerous-man-in-america/

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 12:48 AM

176. No smile?

If he is really running, he will learn to smile. If he does not start smiling, he is not really running. If he wants to win, he will hire a coach to teach him how to criticize while smiling. He can not win if he is channeling Mike Gravel.

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Reply #176)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 03:14 AM

178. You forgot the sarcasm tag.

 

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