Question: Why all the Dem primary polls are SUDDENTLY all favorable to HRC?

[mylye2222]

It all shows her winning by dozens of points ahead of Bernie?
And right just before the debate- therefore before she actually express herself?

Are all those polls ordered by the DNC or semewhat?
(Dont laugh. It has happened in France prior to 2012 presidency. Sarkozy' s aides and his party ordered rigged favorable polls to friendly polls agencies. Guess what? He lost. ) Or is that simply Third Way Dems who want to plant the Hillary-is-inevitable meme once for all and fix the vote for her towards a total plebicit?

I dont know if it can apply to US political field. But really, it is, ahem, strange that all of a sudden, as Bernie was rising, he nows drops within days.

Really weird IMO.

[hrmjustin]

1. Conspiracy damn it!

[mylye2222]

5. No conspiracy.

Political games. It is not the same approach.
That said, have a good Debate Evening, Justin.

[hrmjustin]

9. Lol thanks and I will be watching the debate and the Mets.

[upaloopa]

32. Go Dodgers!

I turned the game off last night could not watch the Mets kick our ass

[hrmjustin]

35. You got a great pitcher tonight.

[INdemo]

12. Why are all the Networks

All of a sudden talking I mean lying about Bernie Sanders negatives and giving him a very unlikely chance of winning this debate. You know even the right wing political advisors are building up Hillary,which given the current cast of Republican candidates leads me to believe that Hillary would do very well running as a Republican. After all her financial backers are the ones that normally back Republicsns.

[hrmjustin]

14. I paid them off.

[sufrommich]

21. Lol. nt

[72DejaVu]

2. Al of a sudden?

Bernie's numbers have been stagnant for 2 months. Hilary's started creeping up several weeks ago.

But, hey, it must be another anti-Bernie plot.

[hrmjustin]

3. But conspiracy damn it!

[darkangel218]

17. Interesting you know so much about Bernie,

But asked this question: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251671852#post3

Hmmm...

[72DejaVu]

19. That question wasn't about Bernie

It was about stupid wording on a half assed meme.

[darkangel218]

20. It is actually about Bernie.

Who are you supporting, BTW??

[72DejaVu]

23. I'm supporting Hilary Clinton

But my decision was not based on the poor semantic choices of any Bernie memes.

[mylye2222]

29. We don' t question that, DejaVu.

The questions are directed to high officers in the Dem Party. We all know Clinton supporters DUers are sincere to their support.

[sufrommich]

4. It's a conspiracy. As is everything that doesn't go

the way some imagined it would.

[Godhumor]

6. No CT. Bernie has been plateaued at mid20s since mid August

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His support hasn't changed either up or down. Clinton lost support primarily based on Biden speculation, but polls recently have shown those numbers have stabilized.

The race is literally unchanged in 2 months. Clinton is up between 15 and 20 points nationally if Biden is included and 25 to 30 if he is not. Sanders is always between 20 and 30 points with 2/3 of his numbers clustered between 23 and 27 points since mid August.

So no conspiracy theory just a stable race.

[enid602]

33. polls

Bernie is ahead in all 50 states sccording to some internet polls.

[Godhumor]

40. ?

The previous poster was joking about the Istandwith internet thing you can vote on and nothing scientific.

MSM wants a horserace not a blow out. They're not coddling Clinton at all in this matter.

[FSogol]

7. ALCOA!

[NCTraveler]

8. 1) Sanders numbers haven't moved much in a while.

2) As I predicted over a month ago, her favorability and all around numbers would start rising as the email story went along. It happens every single time.

Your "sudden" isn't sudden at all if you have been watching.

[kenfrequed]

10. They started two weeks ago or so

With the CNN botched poll that failed to get a statisticially significant number of people under the age of 50 which helped create the illusion of a sudden Hillary recovery. I don't think CNN was actually "in the fix" so to speak. I think CNN was incompetent at polling.

If you want to know how accurate a poll is look to see if there are numbers of how many land lines vs mobile phones they contacted in their polling.

[Godhumor]

18. ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251610815

45% of the CNN sample was under 50.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

27. What is ironic is the outlier Bloomberg Poll didn't even release sub group data.

eom

[Godhumor]

31. I'm not sure what is going on with Selzer this year

They've released two polls so far, one in Iowa and the partnership with Bloomberg you mentioned (Assuming we're taking about the same outlier), and both have Clinton significantly underperforming versus pretty much all other polls.

Selzer has a very good reputation, so it is weird to see that something in their voter screen or population parameters is way out of line. Or they're holding fast and believe they know public perception better than anyone else. We will have to see if they stay firm or make weighting adjustments on their next poll release.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

36. If you just release the head line results it is harder to question your poll...

CNN was "punished" for its transparency.

[msongs]

11. could it be possible there are some actual people who don't agree with your views? nt

[saturnsring]

13. she always was ahead. you were being lied to by the media who want a horse race

and the bernistas had the kkkarl rove blinders on (kkkarl still thinks theyre gonna win ohio)

[randome]

15. But I've heard that greater and greater numbers of people support Sanders!

Surely they can't be dissuaded by some measly polls. Polls are just made of numbers, anyways, and no one can prove they exist, so there!
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

[darkangel218]

16. You already know the answer to that, mylye!

Too bad their dream won't come true in the end! *evil laugh*

[mylye2222]

25. Lol!

And you are right about the Networks.

[Sheepshank]

22. pollsters are falling all over themselves to hurry and get number prior to the debates

and they will be doing the same thing right after the debates. It's their bread and butter.

Pollsters, if they value their credibility, only return numbers, they don't care the content or the result.

The fact that the numbers are reflecting favorably on Clinton continues a trend and isn't all new news. Her numbers have always been double digit leads on the national polls. Some of the individual states may vary.

[restorefreedom]

24. i noticed it too

and i would not be surprised if there were some shenanigans going on. Based on the hit squad that has been out all over the cable news channels today against Bernie, it is clear who they want to win this debate.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

26. Polls of what, specifically?

She's always been ahead in the national polling, as well as many state polls. She's slowly but surely been losing ground in most as time goes on, some more quickly than others, but still been ahead so far, in everything but a few specific state polls.

[onehandle]

28. Just making my grocery store list...

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Done!

[upaloopa]

30. The polls have not changed much for months.

There are a lot of bull shit news stories out there about Hillary slumping especially those by Chris Cillizza

[WI_DEM]

34. It's not just suddenly...

with the exception of NH and Iowa Bernie hasn't really led anywhere else. He still has a lead in NH but lately Iowa has been swinging back to Hillary.

[moobu2]

38. Everybody I know is voting for Hillary.

I've never actually met anyone who was voting for Bernie Sanders. So the polls seem about right to me.

[senz]

39. MOVE ALONG FOLKS -- NOTHING TO SEE HERE --

[AtomicKitten]

41. Yes, I noticed.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=665518

[mylye2222]

42. And I gladly sides with you.

This HRC rise comes so quicly it looks alike a coordinated operation.

[AtomicKitten]

43. Mark Penn is polling for her. Explains a lot.

(Last link posted above.)

Cheers.