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Wed Oct 14, 2015, 12:06 PM

As a mother paying off Parent Plus loans and watching my kids try

to pay off student loans; all from attending public college, I have to ask: What job did Chelsea work while she was at college, and how many hours a week?

I wouldn't bring up Chelsea except for the fact that Hillary Clinton says my children should have worked 10 hours a week while at college.

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Reply As a mother paying off Parent Plus loans and watching my kids try (Original post)
hedgehog Oct 2015 OP
questionseverything Oct 2015 #1
hedgehog Oct 2015 #3
yeoman6987 Oct 2015 #7
hedgehog Oct 2015 #8
yeoman6987 Oct 2015 #12
Wellstone ruled Oct 2015 #14
questionseverything Oct 2015 #10
bluestateguy Oct 2015 #2
hedgehog Oct 2015 #6
sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #16
Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #4
hedgehog Oct 2015 #5
Travis_0004 Oct 2015 #9
yeoman6987 Oct 2015 #13
Sunlei Oct 2015 #11
leftofcool Oct 2015 #15
sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #17

Response to hedgehog (Original post)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 12:15 PM

1. is the ten hours a week hc wants kids to work supposed to go towards tuition costs?

most college students have to work more than ten hours a week to eat and pay rent...are they supposed to work another 10 hours on top of that?

she just does not understand the time and energy that goes into just staying alive

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Response to questionseverything (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 12:22 PM

3. Each student's situation is different - some have time for binge drinking at parties

while others are hustling to fit time for homework around the job they need to eat and pay rent as you say. I'd really like to know how every student at a public college is going to find a job for 10 hours a week!

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Response to questionseverything (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 12:42 PM

7. I worked full time going to college

 

I think it is good to a point. However, it depends on what you want to miss out. I missed a ton of parties and hanging out but in the big thing of life is that enough not to work? I don't know. Sometimes I wonder how it would have been not to work and just have fun. It is on my mind from time to time. But overall I was better off because I had no loans. This was from 1988-1992 for Bachelors at Florida State and then 1998-2000 for MBA at George Washington which was not cheap. It definitely is an individual decision and the long term effects will always be different. 10 hours a week doesn't seem unreasonable but are their enough jobs on campus for every student to work? Probably not.

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Response to yeoman6987 (Reply #7)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 12:46 PM

8. I worked part-time while going to college, but I had to quit

because there just wasn't time to work and do all the homework involved in an engineering degree. I was able to quit, but how many others have to work and have to eat a lower GPA because of it?

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Response to hedgehog (Reply #8)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 12:58 PM

12. I would not have worked full time if I was engineering for sure

 

I majored in education not to say it's fluffy but it's not science or math intensive.

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Response to hedgehog (Reply #8)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 01:41 PM

14. Wow! Fully agree on the messed up GPA.

Did the same thing only worked almost forty hours part time and damn near around the clock during Semester Breaks and Summers. Had to stretch my four year program to five because of the required class prep time which there was never enough. But,hey,I did it. Irony was,year and half in the field,and I had enough,made a career change and never looked back. But friendships last a lifetime.

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Response to yeoman6987 (Reply #7)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 12:51 PM

10. the difference is now

students are taking huge loans and have to work too already (unless their parents can supplement them)

unless students are living at home while attending college their living expenses are nearly as high as their tution

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Response to hedgehog (Original post)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 12:20 PM

2. Ideally

Ideally, a student would have a paid internship while in college, earning college credits and networking to start their career.

But most internships are unpaid.

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Response to bluestateguy (Reply #2)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 12:28 PM

6. Some of my kids had internships which led to permanent jobs -

it's a great idea. Driving around delivering pizzas as one kid did doesn't add much to the college experience, IMHO.

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Response to hedgehog (Reply #6)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 03:09 PM

16. Hillary supports students working because it provides cheap labor for Corporations.

Her continuous refrain is 'pull up your bootstraps' with references to how responsible SHE was is straight from the talking points of the right wing who do not want ANYONE to get ANYTHING 'for free'. But mainly for the same reason Hillary talks this way, to provide cheap labor for McDonalds and Walmart et al.

She however was fortunate enough to have parents who could pay for her tuition. Don't know what she worked at while in college.



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Response to hedgehog (Original post)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 12:22 PM

4. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, hedgehog.

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Response to Uncle Joe (Reply #4)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 12:26 PM

5. I was afraid I'd get alerted on, but I took the risk

because this really burns me.

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Response to hedgehog (Original post)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 12:48 PM

9. I would assume Chelsa got a full ride because of her last name

 

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Response to Travis_0004 (Reply #9)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 01:01 PM

13. Possibly but then again we don't know what her cum was at sidwell or SAT scores

 

I think it can be unfair to presidents kids to automatically think they get a full ride due to name and not academic record.

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Response to hedgehog (Original post)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 12:56 PM

11. Plenty of people work and school

Lot more than 10 hours a week

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Response to hedgehog (Original post)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 03:02 PM

15. Chelsea is a National Merit Scholar finalist so she probably got a scholarship

Here is her basic resume for academics

Turned down Harvard, Yale, Brown, and Princeton to attend Stanford University from 1997 - 2001.

Majored in chemistry at Stanford before switching to history after two years.


Attended Little Rock's Forest Park Elementary School.


Interning for one month with the World Health Organization (WHO) in Geneva, Switzerland. Chelsea is working on a new WHO initiative on healthy environments for children. [July 2002]


Earned her MPhil in International Relations from University College, Oxford University. [June 2003]


She trained at the Washington School of Ballet and danced in performance of the Nutcracker.


She trained at the Washington School of Ballet and danced the Sugar Plum Fairy in a performance of Tchaikovsky's "The Nutcracker".


Is a member of the Board of Directors of the School of American Ballet.

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Response to leftofcool (Reply #15)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 03:14 PM

17. Every child should have those opportunities. But of course, they don't. They at least should have

the chance to go to school without the stress of starting out with huge college debt and while they're there, not being pressured by trying to hold down a job at McDonalds or Walmart et, which sure isn't going to add much to their resumes.

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