2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumKarl Rove Calls Bernie Sanders 'An Elderly Dyspeptic Bilbo Baggins'
Karl Rove really has a way with words.
"I call Bernie Sanders an elderly, dyspeptic Bilbo Baggins, appearing like he was at the British labor party meeting," Rove said on "The O'Reilly Factor" Thursday night. "I mean this is just ridiculous," he added, deriding the quality of the Democratic field.
The former Bush advisor first used the colorful epithet in a Wall Street Journal op-ed Wednesday, and is clearly pretty pleased with it. He also had some vivid descriptors for the other candidates:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/karl-rove-calls-bernie-sanders-an-elderly-dyspeptic-bilbo-baggins_56204b7ae4b08d94253e9d21
They don't attack Hillary like this (Hmmm, wonder why)? Then again, it's not much of an "attack"; Bilbo Baggins is brave, honorable, clever and incorruptible, unlike anyone else running. It's actually quite a compliment!
deutsey
(20,166 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)a kennedy
(29,644 posts)Turbineguy
(37,313 posts)in The Worst Person in America Contest.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)riversedge
(70,183 posts)So why complain that the article you posted did not. After all, the article was about Sanders-not Hillary.
........They don't attack Hillary like this (Hmmm, wonder why)? Then again, it's not much of an "attack"; Bilbo Baggins is brave, honorable, clever and incorruptible, unlike anyone else running. It's actually quite a compliment!
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)which just highlights the flaming stupidity of the gop frontrunner.
edit...whoops thought this came from trump.
fine...,then rove is a flaming idiot, my mistake.
artislife
(9,497 posts)Well not really but..whatever.
Lorien
(31,935 posts)with Hillary? I don't think that he fears her as much; Bernie got a stronger reaction from him.
Autumn
(45,042 posts)Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)so the GOP can bbq her
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)I don't think Rove thought this analogy through.
Apparently, he's not any better at literature than he is at math.
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)Maybe you can help me with a minor but related LOTR point. My recollection is that, somewhere near the end of Return of the King, Gandalf says that Bilbo is the only person in the history of the Ring who ever gave it up voluntarily. But didn't Sam Gamgee have it briefly and then return it to Frodo? Bilbo certainly had the much tougher task because he'd owned the Ring for so many years, but if my memory is correct then Gandalf was being a little unfair to Sam.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)It's outlook that casts sam not as "Samwise Gamgee," but instead as "Sam, Frodo's manservant." Sam is an accessory to Frodo, as much as Frodo's cloak is. And so when Frodo fails to give up the ring (OMG SPOILERS) then Sam "failed" with him.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)sure when he said it. I thought it was when he was reassuring Frodo that Bilbo would be all right, or maybe some time in Rivendell?
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)I was remembering the comment as coming at the Grey Havens, but if Gandalf said it anytime before Frodo and Sam reached Mordor, then Sam hadn't yet held the Ring.
BUT Lorien's post #37 reminds me that Tom Bombadil held it long enough to put it on, not turn invisible, and return it. So if Gandalf said it at Rivendell he was also mistaken, although he may not have known about Frodo's meeting with Bombadil.
Lorien
(31,935 posts)in Middle Earth who couldn't be corrupted and consumed by the ring (Sam and Tom Bombadil were the other two).
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)worth the anything.
demwing
(16,916 posts)Hey Grima Karl - Be silent! Keep your forked tongue behind your teeth. We have not passed through fire and death and 35 years of casino capitalism to bandy crooked words with a witless worm!
Actually, the Hobbits save everyone, and Bernie kind of looks like Gandalf!
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,698 posts)I still remember how he was gasping for air when the votes didn't go his way in 2008. Like Gollum realizing that someone stole his ring.
Skinner
(63,645 posts)Rove: Clinton 'old and stale'
http://www.politico.com/story/2014/05/karl-rove-hillary-clinton-2016-election-107087
Lorien
(31,935 posts)that's a new level of childish name calling for him (though he misses the irony of the comparison). He must feel particularly threatened.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)moved on to "then they mock you".
I think everyone here is familiar with stages 3 and 4!
Lorien
(31,935 posts)Bring on the mocking!
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)And it would appear after a small period of silence, he reared his peckerhead. I can believe he has not been permanently shamed into oblivion after the Romney debacle.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)aidbo
(2,328 posts)UCmeNdc
(9,600 posts)Republicans hate to govern.
Matariki
(18,775 posts)Matariki
(18,775 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)So why did you turn a Karl Rove attack against Bernie into an attack against Hillary???
They don't attack Hillary like this (Hmmm, wonder why)?
Lorien
(31,935 posts)Bernie got a strong reaction from Rove, Hillary did not. Who do you think they fear more?
still_one
(92,116 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,661 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Lorien
(31,935 posts)this time he's really over the top...though since he's obviously not well read, he's missing the irony. Bilbo was incorruptible.
louis-t
(23,288 posts)the entire repug field and their families and lawyers put together.
villager
(26,001 posts)Not that the rest of us haven't known all along...
Lorien
(31,935 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)..."And I approved that message".
Aerows
(39,961 posts)when Gandalf makes him relinquish his grip on it is a direct metaphor for those who crave power above all else.
He wrote it reflecting on WWI's influence on his life and it colored his perspective on many things.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)I can't answer for dyspeptic, but Sen. Sanders does not seem to be irritable to me (unlike Rove himself).
mike dub
(541 posts)maybe this means the beltway rethug operatives are looking at their all hallowed internal polls and aren't liking what they're seeing. Ruh Roh.
NervousGuy
(26 posts)HassleCat
(6,409 posts)This is what passes for wit on the Republican side. "I call Karl Rove a syphilitic Jeffrey Dahmer, requiring only a black tutu to dance in Satan's chorus line!" See, I can string random words together, too. Clever me! Clever, clever me! Quickly, somebody call an ambulance. I broke my arm patting myself on the back.
orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)zappaman
(20,606 posts)And has attacked Clinton plenty.
Here's one link from dozens...
In this one he says she is "brain damaged".
http://theweek.com/speedreads/453148/fox-news-panel-destroys-karl-rove-insisting-hillary-clinton-suffered-traumatic-brain-injury
Karl Rove is a piece of shit whose sole reason for existence is to attack Democrats.