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Lorien

(31,935 posts)
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 05:16 AM Oct 2015

Karl Rove Calls Bernie Sanders 'An Elderly Dyspeptic Bilbo Baggins'

Karl Rove really has a way with words.

"I call Bernie Sanders an elderly, dyspeptic Bilbo Baggins, appearing like he was at the British labor party meeting," Rove said on "The O'Reilly Factor" Thursday night. "I mean this is just ridiculous," he added, deriding the quality of the Democratic field.

The former Bush advisor first used the colorful epithet in a Wall Street Journal op-ed Wednesday, and is clearly pretty pleased with it. He also had some vivid descriptors for the other candidates:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/karl-rove-calls-bernie-sanders-an-elderly-dyspeptic-bilbo-baggins_56204b7ae4b08d94253e9d21

They don't attack Hillary like this (Hmmm, wonder why)? Then again, it's not much of an "attack"; Bilbo Baggins is brave, honorable, clever and incorruptible, unlike anyone else running. It's actually quite a compliment!

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Karl Rove Calls Bernie Sanders 'An Elderly Dyspeptic Bilbo Baggins' (Original Post) Lorien Oct 2015 OP
Colbert was right on target with his Rove comparison deutsey Oct 2015 #1
oh man that is sweet...thx! nt restorefreedom Oct 2015 #13
LOL! Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2015 #46
OMGOSH.....loved this comparison.....ham head with glasses. a kennedy Oct 2015 #57
Rove scores high Turbineguy Oct 2015 #2
Yes, in fact, he's probably a classic "double high" personality. Hortensis Oct 2015 #53
You did a good job of attacking Hillary... riversedge Oct 2015 #3
i agree with you....its not an attack restorefreedom Oct 2015 #14
I am sorry we disappoint you. artislife Oct 2015 #17
When has Rove resorted to that level of kneejerk childishness Lorien Oct 2015 #38
The fear is palatable. Autumn Oct 2015 #4
Rove wants Hillary to run Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2015 #47
So, we're comparing Sanders to someone who resisted the power of the Ring? winter is coming Oct 2015 #5
That was the first thing I thought of, too. Jim Lane Oct 2015 #21
That's more Tolkein than Gandalf Scootaloo Oct 2015 #27
Sorry; I do remember Gandalf talking about Bilbo giving up the Ring, but I'm not winter is coming Oct 2015 #43
Come to think of it, you may be right. Jim Lane Oct 2015 #45
Exactly. Bilbo was one of only three people Lorien Oct 2015 #37
Rove probably thinks anyon who isn't corruptable is Fawke Em Oct 2015 #50
You mean Karl "Wormtongue" Rove? demwing Oct 2015 #6
LOL Most excellent! berni_mccoy Oct 2015 #7
I love it! ibegurpard Oct 2015 #8
I'd wear that one like a badge of honor. nt. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #9
Poor Karl. Still trying to stay relevant. Baitball Blogger Oct 2015 #10
Actually, they do attack Hillary like this. Skinner Oct 2015 #11
He's never compared her to a fictional character before Lorien Oct 2015 #36
Are you sure? This has been going on for a quarter century, after all. Hortensis Oct 2015 #54
We've officially progressed beyond stage "First they ignore you", and bullwinkle428 Oct 2015 #12
Ha! I wa thinking of that just today! Lorien Oct 2015 #39
Yes, this is really quite a compliment to Bernie's campaign. Hortensis Oct 2015 #55
Proper response: "So Bernie is elderly. What is your excuse?" yellowcanine Oct 2015 #15
We will now lock up the LOTR votes! artislife Oct 2015 #16
I've been calling Rove a peckerhead for years Sheepshank Oct 2015 #18
Anyone else notice the resemblance in the photos below? Zorra Oct 2015 #19
Yep, I was about to post something similar! MoonRiver Oct 2015 #28
People in glass houses... Just sayin' aidbo Oct 2015 #20
Haaaa!!! louis-t Oct 2015 #32
Republicans love calling other people names. UCmeNdc Oct 2015 #22
From the Throw Shit 'til it Sticks Dept. Matariki Oct 2015 #23
"deriding the quality of the Democratic field" Matariki Oct 2015 #24
Er...what is Dr. Carson doing to Rubio there? Ken Burch Oct 2015 #42
Fuck Karl Rove workinclasszero Oct 2015 #25
How is that an "attack"? Lorien Oct 2015 #41
The POS called rove should be in jail. still_one Oct 2015 #26
I think KKKarl's big fat blank head would make a great piņata design. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2015 #29
They don't attack Hillary like this?? Where you been for the past 20 years? JaneyVee Oct 2015 #30
Rove never resorted to that kind of name calling with her Lorien Oct 2015 #35
He still has more class in his little finger than louis-t Oct 2015 #31
Is this Rove's confirmation that he is, in fact, working for Mordor? villager Oct 2015 #33
A T-shirt from the 1970s Lorien Oct 2015 #34
OK...then Rove is a "a bloated, flatulent Gollum". Ken Burch Oct 2015 #40
Psychotic Bilbo under the influence of the ring Aerows Oct 2015 #44
We know exactly what an elderly Bilbo Baggins would be like. Motown_Johnny Oct 2015 #48
Wow his highness turd blossom condescended to call Bernie Sanders names? mike dub Oct 2015 #49
Rove has declared our President of the United States. All Hail to the Chief! n/t NervousGuy Oct 2015 #51
So very clever HassleCat Oct 2015 #52
Kkkarl is a misanthrope, traitor who should be in prison, not being quoted . orpupilofnature57 Oct 2015 #56
Coming from "Turdblossom", that's probably a compliment. zappaman Oct 2015 #58
Couldn't resist. SusanCalvin Oct 2015 #59

a kennedy

(29,644 posts)
57. OMGOSH.....loved this comparison.....ham head with glasses.
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 08:42 PM
Oct 2015
Wish Stephen would have brought the ham head with him to the Tonight Show.

riversedge

(70,183 posts)
3. You did a good job of attacking Hillary...
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 08:06 AM
Oct 2015

So why complain that the article you posted did not. After all, the article was about Sanders-not Hillary.



........They don't attack Hillary like this (Hmmm, wonder why)? Then again, it's not much of an "attack"; Bilbo Baggins is brave, honorable, clever and incorruptible, unlike anyone else running. It's actually quite a compliment!

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
14. i agree with you....its not an attack
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 09:34 AM
Oct 2015

which just highlights the flaming stupidity of the gop frontrunner.


edit...whoops thought this came from trump.

fine...,then rove is a flaming idiot, my mistake.

Lorien

(31,935 posts)
38. When has Rove resorted to that level of kneejerk childishness
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 09:16 PM
Oct 2015

with Hillary? I don't think that he fears her as much; Bernie got a stronger reaction from him.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
5. So, we're comparing Sanders to someone who resisted the power of the Ring?
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 08:14 AM
Oct 2015

I don't think Rove thought this analogy through.



Apparently, he's not any better at literature than he is at math.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
21. That was the first thing I thought of, too.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:21 PM
Oct 2015

Maybe you can help me with a minor but related LOTR point. My recollection is that, somewhere near the end of Return of the King, Gandalf says that Bilbo is the only person in the history of the Ring who ever gave it up voluntarily. But didn't Sam Gamgee have it briefly and then return it to Frodo? Bilbo certainly had the much tougher task because he'd owned the Ring for so many years, but if my memory is correct then Gandalf was being a little unfair to Sam.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
27. That's more Tolkein than Gandalf
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 02:54 PM
Oct 2015

It's outlook that casts sam not as "Samwise Gamgee," but instead as "Sam, Frodo's manservant." Sam is an accessory to Frodo, as much as Frodo's cloak is. And so when Frodo fails to give up the ring (OMG SPOILERS) then Sam "failed" with him.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
43. Sorry; I do remember Gandalf talking about Bilbo giving up the Ring, but I'm not
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 11:05 PM
Oct 2015

sure when he said it. I thought it was when he was reassuring Frodo that Bilbo would be all right, or maybe some time in Rivendell?

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
45. Come to think of it, you may be right.
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 07:06 PM
Oct 2015

I was remembering the comment as coming at the Grey Havens, but if Gandalf said it anytime before Frodo and Sam reached Mordor, then Sam hadn't yet held the Ring.

BUT Lorien's post #37 reminds me that Tom Bombadil held it long enough to put it on, not turn invisible, and return it. So if Gandalf said it at Rivendell he was also mistaken, although he may not have known about Frodo's meeting with Bombadil.

Lorien

(31,935 posts)
37. Exactly. Bilbo was one of only three people
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 09:13 PM
Oct 2015

in Middle Earth who couldn't be corrupted and consumed by the ring (Sam and Tom Bombadil were the other two).

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
6. You mean Karl "Wormtongue" Rove?
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 08:31 AM
Oct 2015

Hey Grima Karl - Be silent! Keep your forked tongue behind your teeth. We have not passed through fire and death and 35 years of casino capitalism to bandy crooked words with a witless worm!



Actually, the Hobbits save everyone, and Bernie kind of looks like Gandalf!

Baitball Blogger

(46,698 posts)
10. Poor Karl. Still trying to stay relevant.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 08:59 AM
Oct 2015

I still remember how he was gasping for air when the votes didn't go his way in 2008. Like Gollum realizing that someone stole his ring.

Lorien

(31,935 posts)
36. He's never compared her to a fictional character before
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 09:12 PM
Oct 2015

that's a new level of childish name calling for him (though he misses the irony of the comparison). He must feel particularly threatened.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
12. We've officially progressed beyond stage "First they ignore you", and
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 09:07 AM
Oct 2015

moved on to "then they mock you".

I think everyone here is familiar with stages 3 and 4!

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
18. I've been calling Rove a peckerhead for years
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 10:43 AM
Oct 2015

And it would appear after a small period of silence, he reared his peckerhead. I can believe he has not been permanently shamed into oblivion after the Romney debacle.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
25. Fuck Karl Rove
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 02:48 PM
Oct 2015

So why did you turn a Karl Rove attack against Bernie into an attack against Hillary???

They don't attack Hillary like this (Hmmm, wonder why)?

Lorien

(31,935 posts)
41. How is that an "attack"?
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 09:18 PM
Oct 2015

Bernie got a strong reaction from Rove, Hillary did not. Who do you think they fear more?

Lorien

(31,935 posts)
35. Rove never resorted to that kind of name calling with her
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 09:09 PM
Oct 2015

this time he's really over the top...though since he's obviously not well read, he's missing the irony. Bilbo was incorruptible.

louis-t

(23,288 posts)
31. He still has more class in his little finger than
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 03:18 PM
Oct 2015

the entire repug field and their families and lawyers put together.

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
33. Is this Rove's confirmation that he is, in fact, working for Mordor?
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 04:35 PM
Oct 2015

Not that the rest of us haven't known all along...

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
44. Psychotic Bilbo under the influence of the ring
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 11:11 PM
Oct 2015

when Gandalf makes him relinquish his grip on it is a direct metaphor for those who crave power above all else.

He wrote it reflecting on WWI's influence on his life and it colored his perspective on many things.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
48. We know exactly what an elderly Bilbo Baggins would be like.
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 07:49 PM
Oct 2015




I can't answer for dyspeptic, but Sen. Sanders does not seem to be irritable to me (unlike Rove himself).








mike dub

(541 posts)
49. Wow his highness turd blossom condescended to call Bernie Sanders names?
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 07:59 PM
Oct 2015

maybe this means the beltway rethug operatives are looking at their all hallowed internal polls and aren't liking what they're seeing. Ruh Roh.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
52. So very clever
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 08:20 PM
Oct 2015

This is what passes for wit on the Republican side. "I call Karl Rove a syphilitic Jeffrey Dahmer, requiring only a black tutu to dance in Satan's chorus line!" See, I can string random words together, too. Clever me! Clever, clever me! Quickly, somebody call an ambulance. I broke my arm patting myself on the back.

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
58. Coming from "Turdblossom", that's probably a compliment.
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 08:54 PM
Oct 2015

And has attacked Clinton plenty.
Here's one link from dozens...
In this one he says she is "brain damaged".

http://theweek.com/speedreads/453148/fox-news-panel-destroys-karl-rove-insisting-hillary-clinton-suffered-traumatic-brain-injury

Karl Rove is a piece of shit whose sole reason for existence is to attack Democrats.

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