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Might this be the 2016 Democratic Ticket? (Original Post) WI_DEM Oct 2015 OP
I certainly hope not peacebird Oct 2015 #1
I sure hope not. nt artislife Oct 2015 #2
It would be a great ticket and would set up Castro for 2024. First Latino President! stevenleser Oct 2015 #3
^^^ THIS ^^^^ cosmicone Oct 2015 #8
How about we FIRST rsmith6621 Oct 2015 #16
Obama is/was a great President and Hillary will be a great President too. nt stevenleser Oct 2015 #18
i can half agree on obama restorefreedom Oct 2015 #26
Tell us more about how TPP and TTIP from the TPA he pushed more than anything else will help us! cascadiance Oct 2015 #28
As much as Bernie shilling for the NRA and gun manufacturers. But as far as accomplishments go stevenleser Oct 2015 #30
If he was such a shill for the NRA, then WHY did they give him a D- in their rating of him? cascadiance Oct 2015 #31
Because he failed to be as obsequious as the Republicans shilling for the NRA and gun manufacturers. stevenleser Oct 2015 #33
Because he actually worked harder on many other gun regulation bills that they didn't like... cascadiance Oct 2015 #34
Right, because that's what matters. Dawgs Oct 2015 #19
It is one of the things that matters to me as a Latino. nt stevenleser Oct 2015 #22
Sure, but why him? Dawgs Oct 2015 #23
As opposed to Rubio? The only other Latino currently being talked about on either side stevenleser Oct 2015 #25
I didn't ask your opinion between those two. Dawgs Oct 2015 #39
Because he is the only one remotely in the mix. I can't magically make other candidates run. nt stevenleser Oct 2015 #41
Exactly what I thought. Thanks. n/t Dawgs Oct 2015 #42
Eight years is a long time, he may change his mind by then. arcane1 Oct 2015 #48
VIVA CASTRO!!!!!!!! MADem Oct 2015 #52
I believe it is. leftofcool Oct 2015 #4
That's a strong ticket. Dr Hobbitstein Oct 2015 #5
No Sale. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #6
No, thanks. n/t winter is coming Oct 2015 #7
Could be. And they are both Democrats. Right this very second. nt onehandle Oct 2015 #9
Yes workinclasszero Oct 2015 #12
Sorry, DLCers are DINOs kath Oct 2015 #21
We should whittle the party down to its purity sufrommich Oct 2015 #27
You like DLCers who were enabled by Koch money and people who helped it to power in this party? cascadiance Oct 2015 #29
As a friend and former senior member of Jesse Jackson's Presidential campaign team often says... stevenleser Oct 2015 #36
The Democratic Nominee and Our Next President! onehandle Oct 2015 #32
NOPE rsmith6621 Oct 2015 #10
I hope so workinclasszero Oct 2015 #11
LMFAO FlatBaroque Oct 2015 #13
The establishment no doubt gets wet just thinking about that prospect. eom NorthCarolina Oct 2015 #14
It could be ... Ugh. Arugula Latte Oct 2015 #15
We're screwed. Dawgs Oct 2015 #17
I hope it works. Looks good on paper LettuceSea Oct 2015 #20
Thanks for saying that. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #54
Could be? zappaman Oct 2015 #24
If it is... 99Forever Oct 2015 #35
Wall Streets Dream Ticket, SMH Dying Eagle Oct 2015 #37
Putting a guy named Castro on the LibDemAlways Oct 2015 #38
Especially if she's trying to claim she's the anti-socialist. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #45
I see what you are saying, but what about nominating a guy named Barack Hussein Obama? StevieM Oct 2015 #46
When Justice Ginsburg retires firebrand80 Oct 2015 #40
I agree WI_DEM Oct 2015 #47
ugh... It would be good for me though fbc Oct 2015 #43
No Maineman Oct 2015 #44
Well, that IS the DNC plan, no? Hell Hath No Fury Oct 2015 #49
Clinton/O'Malley TSIAS Oct 2015 #50
I sure hope so! It's a great combo! nt MADem Oct 2015 #51
I hope not. eom Autumn Oct 2015 #53
No fuckin way tularetom Oct 2015 #55
Well, it's a good emetic, anyway. BlueStater Oct 2015 #56
 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
8. ^^^ THIS ^^^^
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 11:22 AM
Oct 2015

Plus we'll have several backups ... Michelle Obama, Chelsea Clinton, Kamala Harris etc. etc.

rsmith6621

(6,942 posts)
16. How about we FIRST
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 11:59 AM
Oct 2015


Elect a President who represents and understands the middle class and doesnt take donations from corporations nor puts former CEO's and Wall St on the Cabinet working against the very people who elected them.

Sorry but Obama has been a disappointment in many ways and I believe Hillary will even be a bigger disappointment.

Let just get someone who works for US the 99.9% 100% of the time.
 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
28. Tell us more about how TPP and TTIP from the TPA he pushed more than anything else will help us!
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:09 PM
Oct 2015

How are they going to help us restore middle class jobs when they will be used more to take them away, and destroy the middle class even more. Sorry but NO THANK YOU!!!!

We need to stop voting just on "identity politics" and still vote on issues! If you want a real dynamic and potentially changing identity politics ticket, imagine how a Jewish/Muslim ticket of someone like Sanders/Ellison might represent a big change to the world. I think the persons that would be a part of that ticket would be a supreme example of how we shouldn't just be voting on their identities, as conventional wisdom would say those two "identities" paired on a ticket would be impossible, but the two PEOPLE we would be voting for would be a great team to help us bring real CHANGE on issues that people care about!

But most of us would want to campaign on the issues that combination, or some other similar combination of candidates that are more focused on issues they want to help America fix, rather than whether they are the first "Jew" or the first "Muslim" being elected.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
31. If he was such a shill for the NRA, then WHY did they give him a D- in their rating of him?
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:28 PM
Oct 2015

Not sure what that popup infested web site is about, which almost felt like malware before I closed the window, but looks about as useless as anything else that people try to use against Bernie.

Edit: Looks like the link you replaced with is a bit more on topic. As for its notes, it reeks of propaganda. Yes, many of us here do acknowledge that Obama has done many good things, but he's also got many issues that aren't too helpful to us, that pages like this ignore. It doesn't mention the free trade messes that are coming through TPA, TPP, TTIP, etc. that will not only be put in place by himself, but a subsequent Republican administration if one is elected with TPA passage that he pushed so hard along with Republicans over most Democrat Party votes that weren't beholden to corporate cash as the DINOs were. Had he pushed Single payer in negotiating ACA even half as much as he did the TPP and TPA, we'd probably at least have a public option today in the ACA, and have a far less expensive system. Also, his justice department can't even keep pace with the Reagan administration in prosecuting banksters whose CRIMES created both the Savings and Loans crisis of Reagan's day and the crisis we recently had in Bush's administration. WHY? We need new leadership that will work more for the people rather than those who work for the banksters and Corporate America and wouldn't let them off the hook for screwing this country so heavily in recent years.

Bernie's got far higher ratings from those who really want progressive policies on issues, which he's been consistent and vocal about, and not waiting for polls to tell him whether he should say anything about them at all.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
33. Because he failed to be as obsequious as the Republicans shilling for the NRA and gun manufacturers.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:30 PM
Oct 2015
 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
34. Because he actually worked harder on many other gun regulation bills that they didn't like...
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:38 PM
Oct 2015

Stop ignoring reality!

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
25. As opposed to Rubio? The only other Latino currently being talked about on either side
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:05 PM
Oct 2015

on any part of the ticket?

Do you really need me to answer that?

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
39. I didn't ask your opinion between those two.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:49 PM
Oct 2015

I asked, why him for the first Latino Democratic President.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
41. Because he is the only one remotely in the mix. I can't magically make other candidates run. nt
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:50 PM
Oct 2015

MADem

(135,425 posts)
52. VIVA CASTRO!!!!!!!!
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 10:38 PM
Oct 2015

Cubans will be saying "What da faaaaaa.....???"


Hey--he was a keynoter!!! Up and coming!!!

Get a load of this--and he is introduced by his brother (twin):




kath

(10,565 posts)
21. Sorry, DLCers are DINOs
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:02 PM
Oct 2015

And should go back to the Repub party where they belong. Time to clear all the infiltrators out of our party.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
27. We should whittle the party down to its purity
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:09 PM
Oct 2015

of essence,like the GOP did,it worked out so well for them.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
29. You like DLCers who were enabled by Koch money and people who helped it to power in this party?
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:18 PM
Oct 2015

I DON'T! And their corporatist agenda over the years in their various rendition as DLCers or "Third Way"ers is pretty obvious to those who pay attention.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
36. As a friend and former senior member of Jesse Jackson's Presidential campaign team often says...
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:39 PM
Oct 2015

... if some of the folks/groups in your coalition don't make you uncomfortable, your coalition isn't big enough.

rsmith6621

(6,942 posts)
10. NOPE
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 11:27 AM
Oct 2015


Hillary suggesting is a clear sign she need to catch up to Bernie Sanders anyway she can. The Grassroots say Bernie, The Media says Hillary.

Hillary will say anything and not mean anything she says or does. She will get my vote only by default.
 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
11. I hope so
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 11:27 AM
Oct 2015

We better stop Trump/Carson or we are **cked as a nation.

This ticket would kick their fat republican asses all over the country!

LettuceSea

(337 posts)
20. I hope it works. Looks good on paper
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:02 PM
Oct 2015

My hispanic BF thinks he's fake and smarmy, but a lot of white people think he will be a perfect fit for the Latino voter.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
54. Thanks for saying that.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 10:43 PM
Oct 2015

My Hispanic friends think the same way.

My mayor would be more representative of the Latino community (and a lot less fake):

Madeline Rogero

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
38. Putting a guy named Castro on the
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:47 PM
Oct 2015

ticket, a name associated with a repressive Communist dictatorship (and I know there is no connection) would be a huge mistake. Clinton/Castro. Please, no.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
46. I see what you are saying, but what about nominating a guy named Barack Hussein Obama?
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:57 PM
Oct 2015

That didn't seem to hurt us too much--he won twice.

I think Castro deserves to be judged on his merits.

firebrand80

(2,760 posts)
40. When Justice Ginsburg retires
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:49 PM
Oct 2015

I suspect we won't be hearing much from the "centrist dems = republicans" crowd

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
47. I agree
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 01:56 PM
Oct 2015

we need a democratic president elected in 2016 no matter if it's Hillary, Bernie, or any of the others.

TSIAS

(14,689 posts)
50. Clinton/O'Malley
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 10:26 PM
Oct 2015

I can't see any other reason why O'Malley is in the race other than to raise his profile to eventually be Clinton's VP.

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