2016 Postmortem
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Bernie Sanders' strategy shiftLos Angeles (CNN)Bernie Sanders' insurgent campaign has been largely built and defined by big, booming rallies with enthusiastic crowds mostly in liberal and progressive locales.
Now, his campaign strategists say they will start to put a new emphasis on placing the candidate in smaller, more intimate settings, especially in early states like Iowa.
The article says that in Iowa this week-end he will attend a barbecue, some town hall meetings, and some house parties.
Forcing a debate"
At the first of two Beverly Hills fundraising events Wednesday evening, Sanders emphasized the difficulty of cutting through and getting his message across.
"If I slipped on a banana peel leaving here it would be on the front page of the papers," Sanders said. "But when we talk about the great crisis facing this country very hard to get media attention for a lot of obvious reasons. And if I was standing here tonight and making some vicious attack against Hillary Clinton or anybody else it'd be a front page story.
He wants to keep running a people-oriented campaign.
"Right now there are many pundits who believe that the only way a candidate can run a successful campaign is to have a super PAC, get down on one's knees before the millionaires and billionaires - beg them for money," he said. "And what we are showing is we can run a people oriented campaign funded by the people"
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)people funded campaign has a lot of us very engaged and excited. We feel like we are part of it, and that feels wonderful.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Hmm...
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)What about her Wall Street?
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)smh everyone except the Right knows his a Centrist just like everyone knows she's to his right on most issues. Gets Awkward when she's to the Right of Rand Paul on Foreign Policy O_O
I just came across this article about the Clintons being income-wise in the top 1% of the 1% (see link below). Could any Hillary supporter here explain how they feel about this. I find it troubling that politicians today enrich themselves in government in this manner, particularly Democratic politicians that are supposed to represent the interests of the middle class, poor and most vulnerable in society. Thoughts? Link: http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2014/06/27/clintons-income-may-reach-top-1-of-the-1/
Aldo Leopold
(685 posts)It was a good question, though.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)especially Bill. Hillary's family was middle class but far from rich. Why do you insult people who are/were hardworking and ambitious? My husband and I came from similar circumstances to the Clintons, and although we do not have that kind of wealth, we are well off. We both took out student loans, paid them back, busted out butts to build careers and raised a family we can be proud of. But I guess since we, and the Clintons, are not poor, something is wrong with all of us. Meh
cprise
(8,445 posts)(lest we think her hawkish-ness is based on some unique Hillary insight...)
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/16/us/politics/historians-critique-of-obama-foreign-policy-is-brought-alive-by-events-in-iraq.html
Ahhh, the return of Democrat faith in "bi-partisanship". Maybe NYT will re-hire Judith Miller, too.
BTW, these people haven't recanted! I and many other real progressives will consider your advocacy and Hillary's candidacy a fraud just for sweeping this one issue under the rug. None of you have any remaining connection to the anti-war movement, if there ever were connections.
And that doesn't even get into her defense and shepherding of free-trade agreements since NAFTA in the 90s.
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SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
George II
(67,782 posts)...and his average contribution is about $31.
There's no telling how many people have contributed $31 many times, bringing them up over the $2700 cap.
tech3149
(4,452 posts)My bank account is down to the "i HAVE TO PAY FEES TO GET MY MONEY" If I got everything right I might get my first SS payment towards the end of next month.
There is one thing you can bet your ass on is that I will put everything I can to get a real candidate for the people elected. Considering I live pretty frugally I could do pretty well in the primaries and could max out in the general.
My problem is I can't be the boots on the ground that would put the blue collar community I grew up in back to looking at the world as it is and not being sold on the propaganda that has been digested as truth for so long.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)aidbo
(2,328 posts)Which requires you to give your name and other information.
Also, this from the FEC's website:
If you contribute more than $200 to a committee, the committee is required to use its best efforts to collect and publicly disclose on a financial report your name, address, occupation and employer, as well as the date and amount of your contribution. Committees sometimes request this information even for smaller contributions, since the $200 reporting threshold applies to your total contributions to one committee during a calendar year. For example, you may make several small contributions to a committee during a year. Once these contributions add up to over $200, the committee must report the contributor information.
Note that if you collect and forward contributions to a committee, you must transmit them within a specified period of time and must also provide the committee with certain information on the contributors. Additionally, you may have reporting obligations. For more details, contact the FEC.
George II
(67,782 posts)....."the committee is required to use its best efforts to collect and publicly disclose on a financial report your name, address, occupation and employer....."
The committee doesn't get penalized if it is unable to get that information as long as, for the most part, they make their "best effort" to get it. So, if I gave them $100 but refused to provide that information, the committee isn't obligated to refuse the contribution. Then a few weeks later I did the same thing, they again can accept the contribution. So, now I've given them a total of $200 but neither of the $100 contributions are documented.
I've been the Treasurer of a number of campaign comittees and Political committees. I can't tell you how many times people tried to skirt the regulations and make contributions over the limits, and the ways they do it. It's not difficult to do, either.
If that is what you think is going on, I don't think there is anything I could say to convince you otherwise.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Making sure that we know Hillary connects with the little people you understand...
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)Which is a hoot, considering that Bernie flies coach while Hillary uses a private jet.
George II
(67,782 posts)....and just before the debate in an interview he crowed "I had a great steak dinner last night"!
I would guess a bunch of his supporters who contributed to his campaign haven't had a steak dinner in a restaurant in a long time, if ever.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Oh noes!! Bernie ate a steak dinner?
aidbo
(2,328 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)aidbo
(2,328 posts)Seriously though, it's kind of sad that they went there.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)seen her at them, and of course she travels by limo and private jet while the Tesla is on loan to the campaign. It's just very Republican to leer at 'Hollywood' and very hypocritical to do so on behalf of a candidate who certainly does not leer at an industry where she has old friends and strong ties.
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)NT
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Oh the horrors, having a supporter who can afford a Tesla!!!
To the fainting couch!!!!!
George II
(67,782 posts)....gatherings to find out how the voters feel and for holding fundraisers in posh places like Beverly Hills.
Now Sanders is doing both of those things and that's okay!
Funny how that works out.
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)Qutzupalotl
(14,302 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)were hosting dinners for thousands of dollars from Billionaires. Saw it up close and personal. No 'little people' at any of those functions, other than the staff of course..
Who is flooding her Super Pacs with Dark Money? Do YOU know? I notice they never include those obscene amounts of money in her official numbers.
Bernie of course doesn't take Citizens United money.
Has she refused the Private Prison Industry's money yet?
She's the Corporate Candidate, Bernie is the People's Candidate.
And the Corporations will pull every dirty trick to STOP the people from choosing their own candidate.
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It feels so great to be on the RIGHT side of history. FIGHTING the corrupt Corporations who now rule this country.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)Or was that some other candidate? Hard to recall. Anyway, I just wanted to join you in righteous indignation about Bernie's Coke and hookers and drug-fueled Ibiza junkets and all. You've really zeroed in on his true character. It takes a special amount of intelligence to formulate an out-of-the-box opinion like that.
NervousGuy
(26 posts)dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)That's a little disturbing. Hopefully he won't go very far down that road.
His campaign has, for quite some time, been open about their strategy of having an early stage where large rallies would put them on the map and generate enthusiasm which would be the vehice to generate a huge volunteer army. Mission accomplished. I'm glad they will still so some of the large rallies, but they are getting to the next phase.
I'm not entirely clear on what this next phase is. I read the CNN article, not a lot of substance there, surprise surprise. He has been doing tons of media appearances all along, so that CNN talking point in the article was just wrong.
I'm looking forward to seeing what they come up with, I would really love to see him oull off a victory, it would be the best thing that could happen to this country.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)and didn't mean to imply that was all he did. But the big-ticket fundraiser raised some concern for me, as it probably should. Bernie's way better than the opposition so there's plenty of room for us to be honest about any problems we have along the way, let's keep this campaign on the right track. I'm confident Bernie will do just that, just noting something that didn't look good to me so as to not let it slide.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)Bernie's idea of "big ticket" is the max personal donation of $2700. If he starts doing events where people are bundling PAC donations, or he stops doing $25 fundraisers, then I'll be concerned.
dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)Historic NY
(37,449 posts)dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)America (the band) was playing it! My son and I have seen them a couple of times, fun.
I don't have a problem with this, or don't know enough about what's going on right now in his campaign to have an informed opinion.
I was a little concerned, the CNN article made it look like he's going a little closer to the Clinton campaign path in this next phase. So long as that's not the case, all good, and I wish I had been at that event, though I wouldn't have been able to afford it and I'm up here in northern Califoria.
George II
(67,782 posts)Los Angeles Fundraiser with Bernie Sanders
On Wednesday, October 14, join Bernie Sanders for a fundraising reception at the home of Linda and Syd Leibovitch in Beverly Hills, Los Angeles, California. Bernie looks forward to talking with you about his campaign for the presidency and his agenda for America. Rock group America will be playing a special performance at the event.
Online tickets for this event are sold out.
Support Levels for this Event:
Attendee: $250 per person
Guest: $500 per person
Supporter: $1000 per person
Maximum donor: $2700 per person*
Co-host: Raise $10,000 per person *
*level includes invitation to pre-event reception
A message from the host:
Please join me in supporting Bernie. I believe that every American has a responsibility to participate in our democracy and thats why Im supporting Bernie Sanders. He has consistently stood up against big money in politics and has been unwavering in his commitment to working people. Healthcare, education, clean water and air these are but a few of our inalienable rights as Americans and rights that Bernie has consistently fought for. Join me as we ignite the revolution that catapults us to greatness.
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)I don't enjoy those types of events so chose not to go (plus, I enjoy donating in other ways such as through DU).
I do know some volunteers that were interested in going but couldn't afford it. The Bernie campaign got them all in free as volunteers for the event.
dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)That's great that they let bring them in as volunteers, win-win.
We have a lot of good local Bernie events here (Sonoma county). I've got my cars stickered up, a Bernie shirt I wear to large events, and I sometimes carry around small Bernie stickers that I print up and give away to people that like the shirt. Also was going to table a farmer's market, I think they didn't receive permission to do so so it didn't happen, hopefully soon.
Keep on bernin'.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Hope you find one to attend soon. I think you will really enjoy it. In the meantime, just displaying your stickers and wearing your shirt will probably lead to some interesting conversations.
Feeling the Bern!
dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)Flyering can happen anywhere.
I saw some guy at a large concert who was wearing one of those old-fashioned "sandwich board" rigs, two huge boards covering his whole body front and back, all plastered with Bernie info, very effective.
ruffburr
(1,190 posts)CLASS!!!
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)madfloridian
(88,117 posts)I was treated as fringe in 2004, and I can do it all over again. Only this time, I might not fall in line.
cprise
(8,445 posts)Even though I don't have your gift for writing great pieces. You are virtually tireless!!!
Big props!!!
artislife
(9,497 posts)You don't know what you are quibbling about.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Not right now.
cprise
(8,445 posts)Sorry to remind you of that fact.
Your candidate employs and harbors war-monger chickenhawks.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,349 posts)Thanks for the thread, madfloridian.
questionseverything
(9,651 posts)nothing wrong with big rallies as long as the local volunteers are doing voter registration
caucus states are the most important
daleanime
(17,796 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)about the first one and the phenomenon it announced. It seems that when Bernie and his crew were arriving at the event, they ran into traffic, a bunch of cars all over the place, and Bernie's first guess was that there had been an accident. They were there for HIM, of course, and from there on...it's history.
FloriTexan
(838 posts)Duval
(4,280 posts)Yeah, it works for the billionaires and Big Pharma and Big Oil, etc. Bernie has proven to be a Man of The People and we're giving more to his campaign!
RandySF
(58,768 posts)Has been Hillary's strategy all along.
Segami
(14,923 posts)Historic NY
(37,449 posts)people would be saying stuff.......wouldn't they.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Welcome to the big leagues! The media's main motivation is capturing ears, eyeballs and clicks. A candidate has to do or say something that gets attention without looking like a fool and at the same time getting their real message across. Its certainly not easy thing to do. Hillary seems to be very good at it.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)moobu2
(4,822 posts)but it's Okay I guess.
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)mucifer
(23,530 posts)especially on the few days the senate is in session.