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HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 11:38 PM Oct 2015

NPR explains why Clinton "won" the debate

I was listening to NPR's "On Point" program today, and they had a couple upset callers phone in to ask why the media are all agreed that Clinton won the debate. The panelists pretty much agreed that Clinton was better than Sanders, and I wondered why they were so quick to discount the focus groups, the standing ovation for Sanders' comment about the email things, etc. Then it hit me. They are professional politician watchers, and they all have careers judging politicians against certain norms, certain benchmarks, and Sanders does not measure up by their standards. They made a couple comments regarding Sanders being unconventional, but they never connected it to the way they evaluate him, compared to the way they evaluate Clinton. Of course, they are probably right when they say Clinton won the debate, and pretty much locked the nomination. They are counting on conventional wisdom to come through for them again, and it probably will, particularly considering how much time they spend hawking it.

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NPR explains why Clinton "won" the debate (Original Post) HassleCat Oct 2015 OP
The paid pundits which commented on cable right after the debate Samantha Oct 2015 #1
Top comment jfern Oct 2015 #2
You said it in a nutshell. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #3
This is also why Debbie Wasserman Shultz did not listen to O'Malley, Webb and Chafee Samantha Oct 2015 #4
excellent post! nt m-lekktor Oct 2015 #5
I was listening to Right Wings Considered the other day. Rod Beauvex Oct 2015 #6

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
1. The paid pundits which commented on cable right after the debate
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 12:20 AM
Oct 2015

knew this one thing for sure: if they did not wholeheartedly declare the corporate candidate the winner, they would not be invited back for the next five debates.

It is just as Elizabeth Warren was told by Larry Summers in 2009:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-29/quote-day-larry-summers-elizabeth-warren-insiders-dont-criticize-other-insiders

After dinner, “Larry leaned back in his chair and offered me some advice,” Ms. Warren writes. “I had a choice. I could be an insider or I could be an outsider. Outsiders can say whatever they want. But people on the inside don’t listen to them. Insiders, however, get lots of access and a chance to push their ideas. People — powerful people — listen to what they have to say. But insiders also understand one unbreakable rule: They don’t criticize other insiders.


These pundits like it on the inside and are not going to be critical of Hillary Clinton. The two acceptable candidates Wall Street liked were Hillary Clinton and Jeb Bush. Now that it appears Jeb might lose his sponsors, the insiders will coalesce around Hillary.

After all, they cannot allow an outsider such as Bernie Sanders to become President because that would upend the top one percent, the corporate world and the billionaires that control the puppet politicians they have bought to do their bidding....

Sam

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
3. You said it in a nutshell.
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 12:29 AM
Oct 2015

That is exactly the reason.

Why her supporters on this board who have often complained about the corporate media can't see that is akin to a man not understanding a point because it would effect his paycheck if he did.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
4. This is also why Debbie Wasserman Shultz did not listen to O'Malley, Webb and Chafee
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 12:41 AM
Oct 2015

who demanded more debates. They are outsiders, and as stated above the Insiders do not listen to the Outsiders.

Outrageous, isn't it?

Sam

Rod Beauvex

(564 posts)
6. I was listening to Right Wings Considered the other day.
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 01:31 AM
Oct 2015

"Hillary stayed to the left of Bernie on Gun Control and to the right of him on Socialism..."

Then the red mist descended and I had to turn off the radio.

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