'Enough of the Emails!' Will Help Bernie Sanders Surpass Hillary Clinton in National Polls

[Uncle Joe]

Simply answering questions without being able to dodge contentious issues doesn't account for a win, nor does it make a candidate "presidential," "polished" or poised. The standard in American politics has been set lower than ever before, especially when a candidate's correspondents are being investigated by the FBI and other intelligence agencies, yet some observers declare this person a winner. Hillary Clinton did a good job of remaining confident during heated exchanges, however the questions themselves were indicative of why Bernie Sanders was the clear victor.

Fortunately for Clinton, Bernie Sanders refused to address the FBI's investigation of her emails. This allowed the former Secretary of State to miraculously circumvent relevant questions about Russia-linked hackers who tried to access Clinton's private server.

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Bernie Sanders, however, did something unprecedented in American politics. While Hillary Clinton wasted no time in trying to make Sanders look like Ted Nugent on gun control, the Vermont Senator took the high road on emails.

Hillary Clinton was given an early Christmas present and was allowed to escape five to ten minutes of tense questioning about private servers and decision making.

(snip)

Furthermore, when the deceased ask mourners not to vote for Hillary Clinton, and ask mourners to cast their vote for Bernie Sanders, the DNC should worry. As The Huffington Post writes, one Miami woman told family and friends the following before she died:

"In lieu of flowers, donations may be made to the Bernie Sanders presidential campaign."

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/enough-of-the-emails-will-help-bernie-sanders-surpass-hillary_b_8310326.html

There is more on the link.

[leveymg]

1. Major blunder. He handed her a pass.

Bernie is playing team ball and that's the end of his shot. He's now part of the problem.

[Cheese Sandwich]

2. Maybe there is a method to the madness

If it's two months from now and the media is hounding Bernie about some bullshit scandal, he can say to them Enough Already Let's Focus on the Issues, and he can keep his credibility because everybody knows he defended Clinton about emails. It will help him seem consistent.

Not that he planned it that way. But there is a big value from being consistent.

[Uncle Joe]

4. There are other versions of the same message but I defer to Bob Marley on this.

Truth is everybody is going to hurt you: you just gotta find the ones worth suffering for.

Bob Marley


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The greatness of a man is not in how much wealth he acquires, but in his integrity and his ability to affect those around him positively.

Bob Marley


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[winter is coming]

3. I couldn't disagree more. He sidestepped a trap.

It was yet another invitation for him to slag on HRC. Instead of taking the bait, he pointed out that the media is obsessing about the emails while important issues go largely unmentioned. In doing so, he got the clip from the debate, which simultaneously shows him declining to be a backstabber while mentioning the emails. I don't think he did that for political reasons, but if he did, it was well-calculated.

[Uncle Joe]

5. In that regard, Bernie's behavior during the debate was consistent with his political career.

He stayed true to his self.

[winter is coming]

7. True. n/t

[brooklynite]

6. We'll see; since September, Sanders' rise in the polls has flatlined

[Uncle Joe]

8. Hell, we've only just begun to fight, this is early in the season and considering

Bernie's relatively low name recognition, not having bought any T.V. Ads to date, pundit manipulation during the debate and slanted corporate media propaganda immediately after the debate, Bernie is positioned well for this stage of the nomination process.

[brooklynite]

9. How interesting; I was told Sanders didn't NEED ads, or "mainstream media"

His YouTube videos and social media would get the word out.

And why exactly is he hiring a pollster? I thought his volunteers were going to campaign everywhere?

[Uncle Joe]

10. Who told you Bernie didn't need T.V. ads?

The Internet whether it be political websites like D.U. etc. etc. or social media is getting the word out about Bernie, enlightening the people about the issues, while also sending record breaking campaign donations (mostly in small denominations) to Bernie's campaign.

The Internet is definitely magnifying the peoples' power to influence change and finance it but the corporate media propaganda machine is still a force to be reckoned with, it's still a dangerous beast, I've never stated otherwise.

[jfern]

11. 8 years ago, she had spent a much gaining in the polls

And was up a record 27 points over Obama

[Scootaloo]

26. And yet not one of Clinton's supporters can articulate why they support her

Aside from, of course, "look at this poll here" and "but, but, money!." In fact Clinton supporters are very eager to tell you how much they like Bernie, but, oh of course, won't be voting for him because... like... polls. or money, or something, ahem, cough, uncomfortable shuffle.

[NanceGreggs]

12. Thanks for the yuks!

"Hillary Clinton was given an early Christmas present and was allowed to escape five to ten minutes of tense questioning about private servers and decision making."

Firstly, given the time constraints of the debate format re questions and answers, there was no chance that there would be "five to ten minutes of tense questioning" on this one topic.

Secondly, given Hillary's preparation for the debate, and given what's been a top news topic for months, she undoubtedly was MORE prepared for that question than any other - and her response was undoubtedly well-planned and at-the-ready to be delivered seamlessly, as were all of her other responses.

Most importantly, I think BS's interjection was more about shutting down a discussion that was going to yet again focus attention on Hillary as opposed to himself. He's not stupid; he knew that she was being handed a golden opportunity to speak to the over-reach of the GOP and another one of their go-nowhere "investigations", and he didn't want to hear her put the Republicans in their place yet again.

As for the DNC worrying that one deceased woman in Miami had asked her mourners to cast their vote for BS - well, thanks for the laugh. I'm sure the entire Party is shaking in their boots over that one. You know what they say: As goes one dead woman in Florida, so goes the country.

[Uncle Joe]

14. I've always liked you, Nance and I'm glad you enjoyed it.

Having said that, Hillary spoke first and was allowed to "put the Republicans in their place," Bernie only "turned the other cheek" in regards to not attacking Hillary after she finished her initial and only defense.

Now Chafee did attack Hillary on the e-mails to which her response was "no."

So if Hillary "was prepared" and "she was being handed a golden opportunity to speak to the over-reach of the GOP and another one of their go-nowhere "investigations" then why didn't she keep the conversation going?

[NanceGreggs]

16. Because BS shut down the continuation of the topic ...

... by saying people are sick of the subject.

And I wholeheartedly agree that people ARE sick of hearing it - but I don't think Bernie was "saving her" from further discussion, as alleged by his supporters. He wanted to move on to issues that HE wanted to discuss, and Hillary's emails was not one of those issues.

[Uncle Joe]

17. Except Bernie didn't shut it down, Chafee spoke after Bernie go to the 55:17 mark

that's when the e-mail subject came up, Hillary speaks first, Bernie comes to her defense and then Cooper calls on Chafee to make his charge, Hillary simply answers "no" to Chafee's point, Hillary shut down the "golden opportunity."

[onenote]

13. Why would anyone pay any attention to H.A. Goodman?

The guy who wrote in 2014 that he was going to support Rand Paul. The guy who wrote a story earlier this year headlined (apparently seriously)"How O'Malley, Warren and Webb can save Democrats from Clinton" as if that had the slightest chance of happening.

[Uncle Joe]

15. Goodman addresses that point in the article.

I bring these issues up not because some people misinterpret a Rand Paul article I wrote last year to mean I'm a closet Republican; I'm a lifelong Democrat against perpetual war. True, a rare breed nowadays. Of course, if a Democrat is willing to vote for a president with neoconservative advisers (without understanding the irony) this type of voter couldn't possibly see why I wrote last year's article. Also, I'm only voting for Bernie Sanders and I'm not getting paid by the Koch brothers (someone accused me of this on Twitter) or affiliated with the Sanders campaign.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/enough-of-the-emails-will-help-bernie-sanders-surpass-hillary_b_8310326.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/06/opinion/sunday/are-neocons-getting-ready-to-ally-with-hillary-clinton.html?_r=0

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. As a dispassionate observer I am compelled to give this round to brooklynite and Nance.

eom

[Uncle Joe]

19. On what basis? n/t

[DemocratSinceBirth]

20. Their reasoned arguments, of course./nt

[Uncle Joe]

21. I never received a final rebuttal from either one to my counter argument, that's why I asked. n/t

[DemocratSinceBirth]

22. This counterargument, she clowned Lincoln Chafee ... Illustrated in a gif

[Uncle Joe]

23. Hillary had a friendly audience when she said "no" as a rebuttal to Chafee, they laughed and enjoyed

it do you believe that if Hillary wins the nomination and in a General Election debate that a Republican won't bring it up or that a more hostile audience will give her the same courtesy?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

24. The response will be different but the result will be the same, her GOP opponent will end up clowned

It reminded me of when the gentleman in your avatar clowned Dan Quayle in their debate by saying, "calm down or this is going to be a long night."

[Uncle Joe]

25. Hillary might be able to give a good response, but "no" won't get it, of course it all depends

on how long the FBI investigation runs and its ultimate conclusion.

Personally I could care less about the e-mails but for a cabinet head to maintain a private server outside of direct government supervision and oversight is major-ly problematic.

As Secretary of State Hillary was serving under President Obama and her actions created an unnecessary barrier between his ability to to oversee the Executive Branch of government in effect a shadow government was created.

I have no doubt that's why they changed the policy specifically banning this practice after she left.