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Check in here: Who didn't watch the Benghazi debacle and didn't even care about it? (Original Post) moabfan Oct 2015 OP
I didn't watch it. There are more important issues to deal with. liberal_at_heart Oct 2015 #1
Don't watch the boob tube. Jesus Malverde Oct 2015 #2
Ditto that. silverweb Oct 2015 #15
Me. djean111 Oct 2015 #3
The issues are what matters jfern Oct 2015 #4
I rushed home and watch the last several hours. moobu2 Oct 2015 #5
Me too... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #74
Didn't watch it, didn't care. RichVRichV Oct 2015 #6
I don't watch TV - no cable. no interest. NRaleighLiberal Oct 2015 #7
Me PADemD Oct 2015 #8
I watched all dat, till the end. Not sure why, but I enjoy screaming napi21 Oct 2015 #9
Guilty. glinda Oct 2015 #10
Guilty. The result was a forgone conclusion. delrem Oct 2015 #11
What moabfan said Vincardog Oct 2015 #12
I vote and don't watch the show bizz that has become politics olddots Oct 2015 #13
I don't enjoy watching Republican side shows. senz Oct 2015 #14
Happy with the results, of course. silverweb Oct 2015 #16
Yeah, who needs to read books, watch movies, or go to sporting events? Demit Oct 2015 #76
Invalid comparisons. silverweb Oct 2015 #86
Ooooo. Does it go on my permanent record, too? Demit Oct 2015 #87
I'm happy you enjoyed it all. silverweb Oct 2015 #91
No interest in it. nt Live and Learn Oct 2015 #17
Pure theater. Maedhros Oct 2015 #18
liars lying reddread Oct 2015 #54
I was busy teaching my cat how to floss. Duckfan Oct 2015 #19
What most Americans probably didn't appreciate about the Benghazi hearing this week . . . DrBulldog Oct 2015 #20
+1000000 liberal_at_heart Oct 2015 #21
+ another 1000000 senz Oct 2015 #23
All Bernie wants to do is get elected president. moobu2 Oct 2015 #25
Sorry to disappoint zalinda Oct 2015 #28
Sanders just wants to fix our broken system... CoffeeCat Oct 2015 #32
Hear hear! SusanaMontana41 Oct 2015 #38
Wow you really believe all that? yuiyoshida Oct 2015 #49
No, that's Hillary. Totally. n/t djean111 Oct 2015 #55
Do you use DLP, LCD, or laser technology for all that projection? TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #66
No, do you? Nevermind, I really dont care moobu2 Oct 2015 #68
Clearly not about much at all. TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #70
... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2015 #90
This message was self-deleted by its author moondust Oct 2015 #79
Check. zentrum Oct 2015 #22
If I wanted to cause severe injury to my mind and body ... Fantastic Anarchist Oct 2015 #24
Didn't watch, don't care too much. Kalidurga Oct 2015 #26
Didn't watch, in part because I don't own a TV. SheilaT Oct 2015 #27
I couldn't watch it. Binkie The Clown Oct 2015 #29
Couldn't have cared less. eom zalinda Oct 2015 #30
Thank you! I don't care! CoffeeCat Oct 2015 #31
didn't watch ibegurpard Oct 2015 #33
Political Theater.... LovingA2andMI Oct 2015 #34
I watched quite a bit of it. murielm99 Oct 2015 #35
I keep up with current events. I didn't watch any of this farce. Jim Lane Oct 2015 #43
I guess that is your way of keeping up. murielm99 Oct 2015 #44
You are talking about style over substance. Presentation. stillwaiting Oct 2015 #53
Words, words words. murielm99 Oct 2015 #78
No. It just says a lot about you that you don't get that after the past 3 to 4 decades. stillwaiting Oct 2015 #81
There were several posts about a congressional hearing about helping Puerto Rico the same day liberal_at_heart Oct 2015 #84
Your "feeling" is quite erroneous. Jim Lane Oct 2015 #92
I didn't watch it Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #36
I did not. I work for a newspaper. SusanaMontana41 Oct 2015 #37
Watched about 10 mins of the posturing, bombast, and CYA. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #39
I didn't watch it. sakabatou Oct 2015 #40
That would be me. Lunabell Oct 2015 #41
I didn't need to watch any of it. bvf Oct 2015 #42
Yours is the first thread with Benghazi in the title that I haven't just trashed immediately. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #45
Thanks! moabfan Oct 2015 #63
This message was self-deleted by its author RiverLover Oct 2015 #46
I saw about ten minutes and turned it off yuiyoshida Oct 2015 #47
Me. PowerToThePeople Oct 2015 #48
me. nt m-lekktor Oct 2015 #50
Didn't watch. bigwillq Oct 2015 #51
TV Free For 15 Years Now cantbeserious Oct 2015 #52
Didn't watch any, did read a lot about it online PDittie Oct 2015 #56
Zero #$@! s to give. Did not watch. nt nc4bo Oct 2015 #57
check. smiley Oct 2015 #58
That's me. 99Forever Oct 2015 #59
It was awesome... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #60
I watched about ten minutes of it, saw the same old same old 'right/left' nonsense, but heard sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #61
I didn't watch it. nt LWolf Oct 2015 #62
I watched parts of it, but it was a work day, so I couldn't MineralMan Oct 2015 #64
My psychic powers predicted it perfectly. backscatter712 Oct 2015 #65
I lost interest in state sponsored circuses years ago FlatBaroque Oct 2015 #67
This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Oct 2015 #69
Not one minute. Mz Pip Oct 2015 #71
I couldn't watch it if I wanted to but I didn't want to tularetom Oct 2015 #72
had zero interest restorefreedom Oct 2015 #73
Benghazi = CIA blowback mhatrw Oct 2015 #75
It was a manufactured controversy from the start Samantha Oct 2015 #77
no interest /nt demwing Oct 2015 #80
What was the score? Major Hogwash Oct 2015 #82
Last i heard it was Washington Senators 5, Clinton White Sox 1 moabfan Oct 2015 #83
A couple of clips loyalsister Oct 2015 #85
I tuned in right when she had the coughing fit. azmom Oct 2015 #88
I had a job interview ThoughtCriminal Oct 2015 #89

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
15. Ditto that.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 01:40 AM
Oct 2015

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]Got rid of the tube almost a decade ago and never missed it. When I see the crap that my friends and neighbors watch, I feel ill. The internet provides more than enough coverage of what's important.



DemocratSinceBirth

(99,708 posts)
74. Me too...
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 11:24 AM
Oct 2015

It would have been like watching the trial of Socrates or Jesus before the Sanhedrin. I was waiting to see Hillary say "It is done" and descend to Heaven to be with the Father. As it is she has more work to do for us here on earth.

RichVRichV

(885 posts)
6. Didn't watch it, didn't care.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 12:44 AM
Oct 2015

The sane world already knew it was a farce for multiple years now. Then the Republicans came out and admitted it in advance of the proceedings. Hillary could have spent the time playing candi crush on her phone and she would have been the winner of it.

I do have to give her credit for the fortitude of spending 11 hours in front of Gowdy and not strangling him on live tv.

PADemD

(4,482 posts)
8. Me
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 12:55 AM
Oct 2015

I didn't watch it, and Hillary's success has not changed my mind for whom I'm supporting, working, and voting. I agree with Bernie in the issues.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
9. I watched all dat, till the end. Not sure why, but I enjoy screaming
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 12:56 AM
Oct 2015

obscenities at my TV! I don't know if the Pubs on that commitee were TPers or just "normal Pubs" but I HOPE the rest of the Pub party members in DC, AND everyone who claims to be a PUB are completely ashamed of what those idiots did.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
11. Guilty. The result was a forgone conclusion.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 01:09 AM
Oct 2015

Total kabuki.

A smelly red herring.

LET'S JUST NOT DISCUSS THE ETHICS OF US WARS OF CHOICE, OK!

ok. jeez, don't chop my head off.

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
16. Happy with the results, of course.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 01:42 AM
Oct 2015

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]Watch it? Not a chance. Summaries are plentiful, no need to waste my time.

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
76. Yeah, who needs to read books, watch movies, or go to sporting events?
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 01:00 PM
Oct 2015

There are summaries. No need to form your own impressions!

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
86. Invalid comparisons.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 06:51 PM
Oct 2015

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]Suffering through 11 hours of hearings and bickering among politicians on a subject that's been beaten to death does not equate to reading books, attending worthwhile movies and live performances, and forming one's own impressions. I think you're very well aware of that, and your unnecessary snark does not go unnoticed.

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
87. Ooooo. Does it go on my permanent record, too?
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 07:27 PM
Oct 2015

It wasn't snark, actually. I'm pointing out that you are ready to adopt other people's impressions—even if something purports to be a dry recitation of facts it's going to include or be framed by the writer's impressions—rather than form your own firsthand. I'm sorry, that is a very valid point.

The subject of Benghazi might seem to have been beaten to death but this Trey Goudy & Co treatment was a whole new approach to the material. I saw it live, and it was riveting, and I think it will be referred to in, and form a context for, a lot of what happens in future. Be dismissive if you like, but people who saw it will have the firsthand memory of it. You'll have the reviews.

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
91. I'm happy you enjoyed it all.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 10:52 PM
Oct 2015

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]Summaries do include video clips, by the way, and are not at all the same thing as "reviews." Now if you'll please excuse me, I have no more time for banter with you, but by all means, feel free to continue with someone who has.

 

DrBulldog

(841 posts)
20. What most Americans probably didn't appreciate about the Benghazi hearing this week . . .
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 01:58 AM
Oct 2015

. . . is that it had NOTHING to do with improving the lives of the middle class and the poor. Their only takeaway was usually how "Presidential" Hillary looked.

In other words, it had nothing to do in explaining to the American people what ANY Presidential candidate would do if in office to fix our horrible problems.

So Americans are justified in not bothering to waste their time in ogling trash politics.

But way back in another corridor in another room, Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren fought an unpublicized uncontentous battle all afternoon to help 3.5 million poor in Puerto Rico from being ripped off by vulture fund organizations. You see, that's what authentic people like THAT do - they have only one thing on their agendas: helping the people. They don't a spotlight; only a place to work. That's why Warren and Sanders became Senators. And that's why Bernie is now running for President - it's never about him, it's about the people he's trying to help and the people he wants to get engaged to help him. And he has got one helluva plan - in speech and in writing - in mind to do it.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
23. + another 1000000
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 02:08 AM
Oct 2015

It was theater. As were the debates.

Hillary's a celebrity actress.

Bernie is a statesman.

moobu2

(4,822 posts)
25. All Bernie wants to do is get elected president.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 02:14 AM
Oct 2015

He's probably been fixated on it since he was a kid. It's all about him and a lot of his followers view him as some kind of religious figure. Weird.

zalinda

(5,621 posts)
28. Sorry to disappoint
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 02:24 AM
Oct 2015

but Bernie only entered the race because there was only Hillary 'running' when he announced. He asked a lot of people if he should run and sort of asked the Internet, too. He got a lot of feedback to run, so he did.

If Bernie was fixated on it since he was a kid, he would be rich like Hillary about now, and would have sold himself to the highest bidder. And, we all know he hasn't.

Z

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
32. Sanders just wants to fix our broken system...
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 02:29 AM
Oct 2015

I'm thrilled that we have a politician who is willing to take on such widespread corruption.

I won't apologize for being excited about a candidate who will actually serve "We The People" and not corporations.

Response to DrBulldog (Reply #20)

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
26. Didn't watch, don't care too much.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 02:15 AM
Oct 2015

I am glad Hillary kicked some punk Republican asses, though. It had to be done. And not just for her viability as a candidate, but for the Democratic Party. So, yes I think she did good.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
27. Didn't watch, in part because I don't own a TV.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 02:23 AM
Oct 2015

But even if I did, I understand that these hearings were utter bullshit.

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
29. I couldn't watch it.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 02:25 AM
Oct 2015

My son was visiting from the opposite side of the country and we had to sit down and play some serious mutliplayer Minecraft together.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
31. Thank you! I don't care!
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 02:25 AM
Oct 2015

I never paid attention to Benghazi because I knew it was Republican bullshit, per usual.

This whole thing is so stupid. There were scores of attacks on American diplomats and consulates when Bush was president. No Republican ever blamed Bush or Rumsfeld for those incidents.

This whole thing is as stupid as "The War on Christmas."

This whole debacle never affected my opinion of Hillary. I didn't care because I knew it was bunk. There are plenty of criticisms of Hillary that are fact-based and rooted in truth. Her corporatism. Her biggest donors being Citibank and Goldman Sachs. Her warmongering. Her taking money from the For-profit prison system, etc.

I didn't judge her negatively when Republicans created this farce and I don't judge her positively for how she behaved during the televised political circus.

The Benghazi accusations --or these farcical hearings--have nothing to do with her stances, her policies, her votes or what kind of President she would be.

It's all moot.

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
33. didn't watch
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 02:40 AM
Oct 2015

Glad to see the prevailing school of thought that it was a ridiculous circus that she weathered well.

murielm99

(30,715 posts)
35. I watched quite a bit of it.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 02:42 AM
Oct 2015

Of course, I had other things to do, and could not see all of it.

I will never understand people who express boredom when it comes to keeping up with current events. I feel sorry for them. I feel more sorry when they vote and express that ignorance in the voting booth.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
43. I keep up with current events. I didn't watch any of this farce.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 04:43 AM
Oct 2015

I'm curious, do you feel that you learned anything about current events from watching?

The day before the hearing I would've said that the whole thing was a partisan political witch hunt, with no merit on the substance, with the principal purpose of hurting Clinton and with the secondary purpose of burnishing the RWNJ credentials of Republicans on the panel. Based on what I've read, that's still what I'd be saying today even if I'd sat through every minute, taking careful notes.

At various times on Thursday, I read posts on DU, read things elsewhere on the web, and read some articles in an old-fashioned print newspaper. I spent much less than 11 hours doing such things, but my guess is that I learned a lot more about current events than I would have from this hearing.

murielm99

(30,715 posts)
44. I guess that is your way of keeping up.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 05:24 AM
Oct 2015

I get the feeling that expressing boredom with the hearing is the latest meme from the Bernie camp. Since Hillary acquitted herself well and came off as Presidential, the Bernistas have to express boredom with the whole thing.

Have fun.

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
53. You are talking about style over substance. Presentation.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 08:02 AM
Oct 2015

I knew Hillary would present herself very, very well. It was a foregone conclusion. I believe strongly that Hillary is VERY intelligent, and I believe that Hillary is VERY capable at defending herself against the idiots in the GOP. NONE of that has anything to do with my opinion of how she will wield this intelligent and capable demeanor if elected President. She's fierce. But, I don't believe she will wield that fierceness to help average Americans if it comes at the expense of the investor class. She won't ask for them to give up anything. In fact, she will help their riches grow and income and wealth inequality will widen even further (in my opinion).

And, of course, I will vote for her in the G.E. if I must. But, I won't be able to rally votes for her very effectively. Especially since all of my friends and family know how much I don't trust HRC. THAT is an unfortunate fact since I have always been active (and effective) at rallying votes for the Democratic candidate.

murielm99

(30,715 posts)
78. Words, words words.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 03:14 PM
Oct 2015

Investor class. Third way. All the rest of it. You guys must be wearing a groove in your keyboards.

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
81. No. It just says a lot about you that you don't get that after the past 3 to 4 decades.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 03:24 PM
Oct 2015

The lack of care is simply stunning.

If you REALLY don't care that the investor class has scooped up such a huge part of the wealth and income pie over the past 3 to 4 decades, it is a DAMN shame that we share the same political party.

Words, words, words. You're a peach.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
84. There were several posts about a congressional hearing about helping Puerto Rico the same day
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 03:45 PM
Oct 2015

the Benghazi hearing was. I don't call that expressing boredom. I call that paying attention to issues that affect average Americans.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
92. Your "feeling" is quite erroneous.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 11:43 PM
Oct 2015

You seem to insinuate that those in "the Bernie camp" (and, by the way, I have not endorsed him) have been relentlessly denouncing Hillary for her treason in the matter of Benghazi, but that only now, routed by her magnificent performance, the "Bernistas" have had to slink away and pretend not to be bothered by Benghazi.

If that is the feeling you've been formed, you must have been reading a whole bunch of threads that I skipped. In all the uninhibited, robust and wide-open debate on DU, Clinton has been criticized on many grounds, but she has not been denounced for misconduct concerning Benghazi. For that, you would have to go to the right-wing sites (where, as a compensation, you will at least find no criticism of her support for an imperialistic war of choice). There have probably been a few DU posters taking up the right-wing theme, but they have been "the miserable merchants of unwanted ideas; their wares remain unsold." As a group they have had no effect except to give MIRT a little target practice.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
39. Watched about 10 mins of the posturing, bombast, and CYA.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 03:03 AM
Oct 2015

Then decided that I lost 10 minutes of my life on political crap.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
42. I didn't need to watch any of it.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 03:40 AM
Oct 2015

Anyone expecting to see a Clinton meltdown or any semblance of brain activity in Gowdy and his ilk was bound to be disappointed from the get-go.

Good for Clinton, but, as some have pointed out elsewhere, it wasn't much of a challenge beyond the requisite Sitzfleisch.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
45. Yours is the first thread with Benghazi in the title that I haven't just trashed immediately.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 06:45 AM
Oct 2015

I almost just added in to my insta trash word list, but simply trashing threads one at a time hasn't been too annoying.

Response to moabfan (Original post)

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
51. Didn't watch.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 07:45 AM
Oct 2015

But I do care about congressional hearings. Think we need to know the truth about such situations.
But the BenGhazi hearings have been excessive.

PDittie

(8,322 posts)
56. Didn't watch any, did read a lot about it online
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 08:32 AM
Oct 2015

But not so much while it was happening. Did follow the Twitter hashtag #FreeHillary in the evening.

I knew there weren't going to be any gotchas and suspected that the Republicans would flail, but their futility and complete lack of self-awareness at how much damage they do to themselves always exceeds my expectations.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
59. That's me.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 09:43 AM
Oct 2015

I don't plan on watching the 24/7 non-stop hearings that will ensue should Hillary buy her way into the WH either.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,708 posts)
60. It was awesome...
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 09:48 AM
Oct 2015

It was like when I was a kid and a group of hippy punchers attacked Billy Jack and he handed all them their asses... It was a Ronda Rousey worthy performance by Hillary Clinton.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
61. I watched about ten minutes of it, saw the same old same old 'right/left' nonsense, but heard
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 09:50 AM
Oct 2015

NOTHING about the real issue re Libya, and knew I wouldn't because they are all on the same side, except for a very few, when it comes to our Imperial Wars.

Seemed more like a show than what we should really be talking about.

Politicians NOT talking about what concerns the American people is what I saw so turned it off, no one else in the house was interested.

MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
64. I watched parts of it, but it was a work day, so I couldn't
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 10:13 AM
Oct 2015

spend all day on it. If I hadn't had to work, though, I'd have watched the whole thing. It's important stuff, and will have a decided impact on the primary elections. Not being interested in such things is not an option for me, and I'm surprised that some seem to be proud of not caring. That's very puzzling to me.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
65. My psychic powers predicted it perfectly.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 10:15 AM
Oct 2015

I could have told you weeks ago that these sorts of hearings can only end with the Republicans being made to look like the assholes they are.

FlatBaroque

(3,160 posts)
67. I lost interest in state sponsored circuses years ago
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 10:16 AM
Oct 2015

This play was an excellent production designed to distract the American people from the Secretary's criminal pursuit of bombing and destabilization of Libya on behals of her sponsors.

Response to moabfan (Original post)

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
72. I couldn't watch it if I wanted to but I didn't want to
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 11:19 AM
Oct 2015

Appears like it was all political theater anyway. And it apparently came off just as planned. Clinton appeared "presidential" and her tormenters looked like a bunch of ignorant spiteful fools. Everybody played their parts perfectly.

And everybody won except the voters.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
73. had zero interest
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 11:20 AM
Oct 2015

if there was no there there, it was a waste of time and voters will have long forgotten when they vote in their primary. plenty of time to remind people of bernie message

mhatrw

(10,786 posts)
75. Benghazi = CIA blowback
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 12:44 PM
Oct 2015

The State Department covered for the CIA. Everybody involved knows this. It's a complete non-issue. It's utterly meaningless. That's why our oligarchs, their water carriers, and the corporate media love to drone on and on and on about it. We can root for our opposing teams to score "points" as if we were watching a sporting event while they keep rigging the game in their favor without our so much as noticing.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
77. It was a manufactured controversy from the start
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 02:22 PM
Oct 2015

I didn't watch at all.

I have seen a few manufactured controversies against the Clintons previously play; I assumed this would progress about the same -- just billed as an updated version. Same for the contrived e-mail controversy.

Sam

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
85. A couple of clips
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 04:24 PM
Oct 2015

to see if Hillary was as great as I kept hearing. If challenging the motives and methods of republicans were a priority before it got so personal, I might have found it more compelling. All she really did was stand up for herself the way anyone should.

I just kept thinking that it's too bad she reserved her passion for her self interest as opposed to advocating for the people who have been so badly hurt by welfare "reform." Or challenging the war mongering motives of the Bush admin.

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