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ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 02:02 AM Oct 2015

At what point will our candidates begin to discuss issues more in depth and move away from

the same old stump speeches we've all already heard a hundred times?

Our candidates already were regaled for an issues-oriented debate, rather than the monkey-throwing-shit republidiots' kindergarten spat. Hillary kicked the pointy-headed fuck's ass in the Ben Ghazi hearing fiasco.

Isn't it time to build on that momentum and seize the narrative on the issues we care about? As long as we continue to demonstrate that we are the adults in the room, we will carry each day to victory.

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elleng

(130,865 posts)
1. MY candidate has been discussing MANY issues in depth,
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 02:07 AM
Oct 2015

more than ANY candidate, and that fact has been largely ignored by msm (and DU, sadly.)

Check out Martin O'Malley's policies, plans and programs:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12813600

https://martinomalley.com/category/policy/

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
3. O'Malley is a fine candidate. Unfortunately, he'll need a major turn of luck in order to make...
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 02:18 AM
Oct 2015

...it to the primaries. However, I feel he deserves to at least be offered a position in the Democratic administration when we win the White House again.

elleng

(130,865 posts)
7. I'm regularly told by DUers that they don't know about him,
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 02:48 AM
Oct 2015

unfortunately. It surprises me every time I see it, ChisolmTrailDem.

Uncle Joe

(58,349 posts)
2. Issues do need to be discussed in depth and Bernie has been doing that since his campaign started
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 02:13 AM
Oct 2015

and he hasn't stopped yet but if he doesn't point out the differences in commitment between him and Hillary there is no reason for the people to not vote for the better known candidate.

Hillary as of late has moved toward where Bernie is on virtually every issue, this only serves to muck the peoples's perception up as to what the candidates sincerely stand for.

Thanks for the thread, ChisolmTrailDem.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
5. You're welcome, Uncle Joe. I would like to see the Democratic candidates looking forward.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 02:38 AM
Oct 2015

They have already established who they are to those who care enough to be keeping track this early. I'd like the chance to judge them based on how effective they each are at taking on the idiots while simultaneously expanding on the issues they've already championed. How will they regulate guns? What steps would they take to deal with climate change? How serious is climate change? Is capitalism still a viable economic system or should we seriously consider a more democratic socialist state? Are we going to Mars? Are we going to war in the ME again? Are we going to a single payer healthcare system? These issues and more are what our candidates need to be talking about and debating, instead of the negative and nasty back and forth that makes them look bad and incites the opposition to bouts of frothing at the mouth in anticipation of any little morsel they can get in the midst of a Democratic inter-party battle beween the last two standing candidates.

Also, instead of sniping each other, I want to see our candidates attacking the repukes hard and rapid-fire. Point out their every idiocy and injustice and ineptness. Point out their every extreme absurdity and tag-team mocking them at every opportunity. I want to see our candidates laffing and laffing and laffing at those idiots publicly, every day.

Uncle Joe

(58,349 posts)
8. On the face of it that would be ideal but unfortunately
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 02:49 AM
Oct 2015

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only one of our candidates can win the nomination and that bridge must be crossed first so they're compelled to make distinctions between themselves.

We know Bernie really well but his name recognition across the nation is not marquee yet and millions of Americans are just beginning to tune in to the political race.

Having said that, I don't view anything the Democratic Candidates have done to this point approaching the Republicans' absurdity.

Peace to you, ChisolmTrailDem

BlueCheese

(2,522 posts)
9. Unfortunately, that's not the level at which our political process is conducted.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 03:16 AM
Oct 2015

One reason that I don't think we need too many more debates is that the candidates tend to say the same things over and over again. I watched about a dozen of the ones in 2008, and frankly, after a certain while they were repetitive and almost pointless.

Also, while it may be interesting to have a one-hour seminar where the candidates discuss the finer points of how they plan to implement their college debt plans, chances are most voters aren't going to worry about that level of detail. And maybe they shouldn't-- after all, everything will change depending on what Congress looks like and how circumstances change between now and then.

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