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Omaha Steve

(99,573 posts)
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 01:44 PM Oct 2015

Sanders scores big at Iowa dinner that changed the race for another 'unelectable' candidate in 2008


Sanders scores big at Iowa dinner that changed the race for another 'unelectable' candidate in 2008: 'You remember that guy? What's his name? Oh, it's PRESIDENT Obama'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3288298/Sanders-scores-big-Iowa-dinner-changed-race-unelectable-candidate-2008-remember-guy-s-Oh-s-PRESIDENT-Obama.html

By FRANCESCA CHAMBERS, WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT FOR DAILYMAIL.COM IN DES MOINES

PUBLISHED: 23:23 EST, 24 October 2015 | UPDATED: 11:52 EST, 25 October 2015

Hillary Clinton won the afternoon with the help of Katy Perry, but the evening belonged to U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders, who gave a barnstorming performance to the Iowa activists most likely to participate in the state's first-in-the nation caucus on February.

A democratic socialist with no name ID when he began, Sanders has had an uphill climb in the race against establishment favorite Clinton. His performance at tonight's Jefferson-Jackson dinner, the official 100-day count down until the caucus may not be enough to do the trick.

But it's been done before, he reminded his audience tonight, in 2008, when Clinton was also favored to win.

'Just to remember,' he said, 'about eight years ago, all the political experts talked about how another Democratic candidate for president just couldn't win. He was unelectable. You remember that guy? What's his name? Oh, it's President Obama.'

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Sanders scores big at Iowa dinner that changed the race for another 'unelectable' candidate in 2008 (Original Post) Omaha Steve Oct 2015 OP
The Gravity of MSM won't keep Bernie down, it's not revolution, it's evolution of voters . orpupilofnature57 Oct 2015 #1
The media were even trying to downplay the enthusiasm of his supporters. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #2
They'll do anything to diffuse and dismiss Bernie, it's sycophancy to their boss, the 1% . orpupilofnature57 Oct 2015 #4
Big Media is owned by Big Business, and so is Hillary Clinton. AzDar Oct 2015 #12
Bernie didn't score, He is behind Clinton, and he left early! lewebley3 Oct 2015 #14
Honesty like that.... daleanime Oct 2015 #20
It's being coerced rather than reasoned, because they have no reasons, just poetry & platitudes . orpupilofnature57 Oct 2015 #23
It was a great speech. HerbChestnut Oct 2015 #3
It sure did. Did you notice he came out azmom Oct 2015 #7
Too shouty for me workinclasszero Oct 2015 #5
So 'shouting' is the new narrative huh? HerbChestnut Oct 2015 #6
I see Ned_Devine Oct 2015 #8
No. I prefer a candidate with... JaneyVee Oct 2015 #9
I think Ned_Devine Oct 2015 #16
So you like the status quo... AlbertCat Oct 2015 #17
What you said workinclasszero Oct 2015 #19
"actual experience" warmongering, cluster-bomb loving, corporatist-kissing bread_and_roses Oct 2015 #26
Well, you seem to have the candidate that pleases you! Awesome! djean111 Oct 2015 #28
Too shouty for me, too. But I don't care about party/union endorsements. thesquanderer Oct 2015 #33
I thought only women shouted.... AlbertCat Oct 2015 #15
Appearance..... daleanime Oct 2015 #21
and if his voice were lower it'd be too "whispery" "can't he talk louder must be age" LiberalElite Oct 2015 #22
Better than feigning a Southern accent when in the South . orpupilofnature57 Oct 2015 #24
this b.s. in spite of the fact that Martin O'Malley received 2 STANDING OVATIONS! elleng Oct 2015 #10
omg! He actually mentioned the weather vane??? Perfect! nt antigop Oct 2015 #13
YES! PERFECT, elleng Oct 2015 #18
thanks, elleng! nt antigop Oct 2015 #36
Oh that is great! MuseRider Oct 2015 #34
Check the video! it IS great! edited w video: elleng Oct 2015 #35
Thank you. MuseRider Oct 2015 #37
Thought I'd save you some running around. elleng Oct 2015 #38
Outstanding! MuseRider Oct 2015 #39
THANKS, MuseRider! elleng Oct 2015 #40
Just in case.. MuseRider Oct 2015 #41
I've avoided most carryings-on, but am aware of a Bernie screams 'issue.' elleng Oct 2015 #42
Expand the Bern! Dont call me Shirley Oct 2015 #11
Kick and R BeanMusical Oct 2015 #25
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #27
OH steve...you should know... V0ltairesGh0st Oct 2015 #29
Is that the same guy Sanders wanted to have opposition in 2012? Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #30
I remember that guy too. And I remember how certain it was that HE wouldn't make it. sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #31
It is terrifying to both sides of the political fence Aerows Oct 2015 #32
 

orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)
1. The Gravity of MSM won't keep Bernie down, it's not revolution, it's evolution of voters .
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 01:53 PM
Oct 2015

Misrepresenting the Debate like it was anything more than Bernie taking the High road , shows that " Desperate Dismissal " isn't working anymore, and hopefully the next Debate will be more issues oriented .

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
2. The media were even trying to downplay the enthusiasm of his supporters.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 01:55 PM
Oct 2015

I saw half a dozen Tweets that said something like, "Sanders crowd APPEARS to be loud because we're seating in front of them."

Whatever.

 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
3. It was a great speech.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 01:58 PM
Oct 2015

And I think it will set the tone up until the next debate. The real campaign started last night.

 

Ned_Devine

(3,146 posts)
8. I see
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 02:50 PM
Oct 2015

You'd perhaps prefer having smoke blown up your proverbial backside while listening to teenie bopper music. The problems with wealth inequality are worth shouting about, by the way.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
9. No. I prefer a candidate with...
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 02:54 PM
Oct 2015

Actual policy proposals. Actual union endorsements. Actual party endorsements. Actual endorsements from civil rights heros like John Lewis and Gloria Steinem. Actual experience sticking her foot firmly inside republican assholes.

 

Ned_Devine

(3,146 posts)
16. I think
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 03:21 PM
Oct 2015

I think we're all in agreement that the GOP needs a good strong kick there, and I think Bernie has done his part to stick his foot there throughout his career. The reason he hasn't gotten the endorsements from the establishment is because he's not the establishment. That's too risky for a lot of the establishment to go and endorse him. It was the same case for Barack back in 2007. But Bernie speaks to me an people like me about the changes we want to see. While I appreciate your support of Hillary, I hope you understand my support of Bernie

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
17. So you like the status quo...
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 03:27 PM
Oct 2015

..... so we can have year and years of the same ol' Dem-Lite crap.

Argumentum ad verecundiam

bread_and_roses

(6,335 posts)
26. "actual experience" warmongering, cluster-bomb loving, corporatist-kissing
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 04:42 PM
Oct 2015

yah! sis boom ba! after all, she's a big D!!!

This 65 yr old woman who would have loved to see a woman president in her lifetime will never vote for HRC. Never. She's a crumbs and leftovers Democrat. That so many think that's good enough is sad.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
28. Well, you seem to have the candidate that pleases you! Awesome!
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 04:52 PM
Oct 2015

Are you upset because everybody does not agree with you? Supporting a candidate is a personal choice. This will get settled when the voting begins, after all. Supporters of various candidates being a bit peevish because everybody else does not support their candidate, do not accomplish anything at all.

thesquanderer

(11,982 posts)
33. Too shouty for me, too. But I don't care about party/union endorsements.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 06:01 PM
Oct 2015

The thing about these endorsements, as someone else pointed out, is that HRC is the safe bet there. If, for example, someone in congress endorses HRC, and BS wins, there are no consequences. But if someone endorses BS and (as expected) HRC wins, they have knocked themselves out of favor with the President. So that's a more difficult endorsement to consider.

And BTW, BS has plenty of actual policy proposals. (See https://berniesanders.com/issues/ )

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
22. and if his voice were lower it'd be too "whispery" "can't he talk louder must be age"
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 03:42 PM
Oct 2015

Y'all got nowhere with Bernie Who?; moving on to yeah but Bernie's hair; Bernie's too old; Bernie doesn't smile... now it's "Bernie yells!" FFS

P.S.: What you see as "yelling" is the manifestation of being passionate on the issues. Of course some can't be expected to recognize it as such.

elleng

(130,861 posts)
10. this b.s. in spite of the fact that Martin O'Malley received 2 STANDING OVATIONS!
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 02:56 PM
Oct 2015


'Martin O'Malley, Clinton's only remaining challenger in the race aside from Sanders, also had a strong night, earning applause from sections outside his own on multiple occasions throughout his remarks.

O'Malley took a not-so-subtle jab at Clinton for her flip-flopping on high-profile issues tonight, as well.

'Thomas Jefferson once said, “in matters of fashion, swim with the current. In matters of principle, stand like a rock." In these fast changing times, America needs a President who will stand like a rock,' he said.

The crowd went wild, as he plowed on and said 'a weather vane shifts its position every time the winds change. Effective leaders do not.'

'I know who I am, I know what I believe, and I am willing to fight for it,' he said.'

MuseRider

(34,104 posts)
34. Oh that is great!
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 06:29 PM
Oct 2015

I have not seen any of this yet. I heard he was good. He always is. Can't wait to find the time to look for all of it. Thanks for bringing this in.

MuseRider

(34,104 posts)
37. Thank you.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 08:36 PM
Oct 2015

At least one I don't have to go looking for, although they are probably all over DU in various threads. I appreciate this and I appreciate you for your strength and honest support of O'Malley. There is still a long way to go isn't there? You never know what could happen.

Thanks!

elleng

(130,861 posts)
38. Thought I'd save you some running around.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 08:52 PM
Oct 2015

Yes, a long way to go, which is why I'm in as many places as I can be, informing people.

MuseRider

(34,104 posts)
39. Outstanding!
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 09:11 PM
Oct 2015

But, gosh I hate to say it but....wasn't he yelling a little too much? shhhhhhh

He did a great job. I can't think we would suffer at all with him in office. I think the other two just sucked all the air out of the room because there is no real reasonable reason he is not doing better.

Thanks so much! Onward we go!

elleng

(130,861 posts)
40. THANKS, MuseRider!
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 09:19 PM
Oct 2015

He HAD to 'yell,' no other way, AND he had to raise their 'bad' policies and 'friends,' THAT is why we NEED him! NO WAY we would 'suffer' with him in office; we'll THRIVE!

ONWARD!

MuseRider

(34,104 posts)
41. Just in case..
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 09:26 PM
Oct 2015

just in case you did not see all the carrying on about how Sanders makes everyone feel screamed at I threw that in as a joke. Raising policy issues and differences in doing things are the only ways to distinguish yourself. It has to be done. If not we would be looking at 3 candidates saying exactly the same thing and voting on delivery or looks. I fail to understand how that can be called bashing by any measure here on DU. Fair game, they know it and we should. I was waiting for the weathervane comment but still burst out laughing when he said it. He has guts, lots and lots of them.

I would be fine with him there. Of course I would love it to be Bernie but O'Malley would be great.

elleng

(130,861 posts)
42. I've avoided most carryings-on, but am aware of a Bernie screams 'issue.'
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 09:39 PM
Oct 2015

Kind of thought it was a joke from you, and at the same time vary glad MO'M raised his voice in a way to be HEARD. And you are absolutely right, raising policy issues to distinguish oneself is ESSENTIAL, THAT's why I'm here! The distinctions are CRITICAL!

 

V0ltairesGh0st

(306 posts)
29. OH steve...you should know...
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 04:55 PM
Oct 2015

The polls are the reason Hillary will be President, and besides Katy Perry handing her a POTUS necklace really seals the deal , don't be mad... How can you deny that !!!! I mean after all she told the big banks they should... "CUT IT OUT!"

Sorry Bernie ... I tried... I really did.... but in the face of these overwhelming odds I'm afraid... you are totally un-electable... sigh. I Guess my vote is just one among many that will have to called wasted. How could i be so short sighted... ??



sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
31. I remember that guy too. And I remember how certain it was that HE wouldn't make it.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 05:13 PM
Oct 2015

Same old story, a huge, well funded Corporate Machine putting out talking points, while on the ground things are a whole lot different.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
32. It is terrifying to both sides of the political fence
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 05:18 PM
Oct 2015

the thought that they might not get a Clinton or a Bush after all. They won't get another Bush, Republicans find him as detestable as everybody else. Clinton is running a campaign where she seems oblivious to the ire Wall Street and DC enablers have garnered.

It's going to be fun. Being an insider isn't going to help any candidate this season, and it is beautiful to watch.

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