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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 12:05 PM Oct 2015

My PSA re: the Monmouth Poll, source of so much consternation

Their methodology with the operative sentence underlined:


The Monmouth University Poll was sponsored and conducted by the Monmouth University Polling Institute from October 22
to 25, 2015 with a statewide random sample of 400 Iowa voters drawn from a list of registered Democratic voters who voted
in at least one of the last two state primary elections and indicate they are likely to attend the Democratic presidential caucuses
in February 2016. This includes 300 contacted by a live interviewer on a landline telephone and 100 contacted by a live
interviewer on a cell phone, in English. Monmouth is responsible for all aspects of the survey design, data weighting and
analysis. Final sample is weighted for age and gender based on state registration list information on the pool of voters who
participate in primary elections
. Data collection support provided by Braun Research (field) and Aristotle (voter list). For
results based on the total sample, one can say with 95% confidence that the error attributable to sampling has a maximum
margin of plus or minus 4.9 percentage points (unadjusted for sample design). Sampling error can be larger for sub-groups
(see table below). In addition to sampling error, one should bear in mind that question wording and practical difficulties in
conducting surveys can introduce error or bias into the findings of opinion polls.



If you have any questions re their methodology they can be contacted here:




Contact:
PATRICK MURRAY
732-979-6769 (cell); 732-263-5858 (office)
pdmurray@monmouth.edu
Follow on Twitter: @PollsterPatrick

Have a nice day.
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My PSA re: the Monmouth Poll, source of so much consternation (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 OP
I made the case yesterday here that caucuses are a different animal sufrommich Oct 2015 #1
The Obama 2008 campaign understood this fact well MohRokTah Oct 2015 #7
aaahhhh....so that's why Texas got rid of the caucus for the 2016 Primary! ccinamon Oct 2015 #20
I'm predicting that Martin O'Malley finsihes ahead of Bernie in Iowa ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #11
Obama's ground game in the early caucus states will be sufrommich Oct 2015 #12
Oh noes, we're on the brink of Armageddon as it is. oasis Oct 2015 #14
+1. Exactly. n/t FSogol Oct 2015 #18
Good post! leftofcool Oct 2015 #2
Worthless shit-stirring and bad-mouthing of fellow DUers and fellow Democrats. Talking shit about ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2015 #3
I made no value judgments in my PSA DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #5
In 2012, Republicans angered at liberal polls Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #4
The demographics look a bit off to me... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #6
What I think I hear from those complaining Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #13
Rather than complaining they should contact the pollster. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #15
It is more fun to complain to an audience. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #17
also Monmouth gets and A- rating.... riversedge Oct 2015 #8
Even under the thoughts this poll has been immediatley attacked with. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #9
The man who conducted the poll was on Rachel's show last night. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #10
Kick & recommended. William769 Oct 2015 #16
I hear ya... but that result is WAY out of line with others... Adrahil Oct 2015 #19
They polled 400 people, and more than 300 of them were over 50. mhatrw Oct 2015 #21
I suggest you contact them. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #22

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
1. I made the case yesterday here that caucuses are a different animal
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 12:11 PM
Oct 2015

than straight primary elections. The demographics for caucuses are what they are,there's no need to "unskewer" the poll,it speaks to who shows up for caucuses.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
7. The Obama 2008 campaign understood this fact well
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 12:26 PM
Oct 2015

The truth of this played out in Texas that year. Texas had a system of a primary and a caucus. Hillary won the primary and Obama won the caucus.

The caucuses made all the difference that year.

ccinamon

(1,696 posts)
20. aaahhhh....so that's why Texas got rid of the caucus for the 2016 Primary!
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 01:46 PM
Oct 2015

Interesting the things you learn!

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
11. I'm predicting that Martin O'Malley finsihes ahead of Bernie in Iowa ...
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 12:37 PM
Oct 2015

His ground game is proving awesome ... http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=729875 ...

If you believe that endorsements, actually, matter.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
12. Obama's ground game in the early caucus states will be
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 12:46 PM
Oct 2015

studied by campaign organisers for decades,it was flawless. Hillary's campaign learned it's lesson and so did O'Mally's. Sander's campaign didn't and it will cost them.

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
2. Good post!
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 12:11 PM
Oct 2015

But you know a poll only means something if it is an unscientific online poll that has Bernie winning all 50 states and sponsored by the Powdered Wig Society or Mika.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
3. Worthless shit-stirring and bad-mouthing of fellow DUers and fellow Democrats. Talking shit about
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 12:16 PM
Oct 2015

fellow Democrats should be a bannable offense, considering DU's TOS.

Not EVERY Bernie fan believes online polls mean anything.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
5. I made no value judgments in my PSA
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 12:20 PM
Oct 2015

I questioned quinnipiac's methodology, e-mailed them, and we would had a pleasant back and forth exchange. I went through the same process with gallup.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
4. In 2012, Republicans angered at liberal polls
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 12:18 PM
Oct 2015

Found conservative polls to tell them the Conservative truth.
They still lost.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
6. The demographics look a bit off to me...
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 12:24 PM
Oct 2015

But I am not invested in them being wrong. If I was invested in them being wrong I would contact them.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
13. What I think I hear from those complaining
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 12:49 PM
Oct 2015

Is that Sanders is leading a revolution and people who have not voted will rise up to shake the foundations of power.

It is dificult to poll for a revolution.

If they polled people who have not voted and are not registered, what would that mean?

If at the Caucus we see a massive spike in participation, I suspect that will be good for Sanders.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
9. Even under the thoughts this poll has been immediatley attacked with.
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 12:33 PM
Oct 2015

It's still very nice to see who the adults in the room are going for. The people who are a part of the process and this isn't their first rodeo. Even without weighting what you are looking at are the non-LIV's numbers. All polls tell something. This one tells a ton.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
10. The man who conducted the poll was on Rachel's show last night.
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 12:35 PM
Oct 2015

I am sure he would be happy to defend his methodology.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
19. I hear ya... but that result is WAY out of line with others...
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 01:12 PM
Oct 2015

I smell an outlier. AS best I can tell, Monmouth hasn't polled Iowa before. They may need some local experience.

Still... Go Hillary!

mhatrw

(10,786 posts)
21. They polled 400 people, and more than 300 of them were over 50.
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 02:15 PM
Oct 2015

How in the hell is that representative of the Iowa Democratic caucusers?

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