Really sad that some will over look

[UglyGreed]

corporate ties, war mongering and dishonest flip flopping (just to name a few) just because they have an agenda. That's like I as a man I would only vote for a man to lead this country, I don't care about what sex someone is, I care that we reign in this corporate/militant control that has overwhelmed this country for far too long. We will see how all that works out in the end....

[wendylaroux]

1. yes

just look at their pasts,that will tell you everything.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

2. Just saw over on Daily Kos

that defending Bernie from accusations of misogyny over using a standard 'shouting' line from his stump speeches in the debate is just 'mansplaining'. So no doubt not caring about the gender of who you're going to vote for is misogynist too.

[Bluenorthwest]

7. And yet their straight people, just like some straight Bernie folks, 'straightsplain' to LGBT

in endless OP's lecturing us about our own history, our own allies and in some cases things we actually did personally that they read about in magazines.
Quite a bit of that shit going on around here. Neither side is innocent either. I favor Bernie, but I have no favorite among the DU camps around either candidate. Each side has specialized nasty. Each side seems to nurture and curate their nasty and encourage their purveyors of nasty.

[JRLeft]

12. I'm done engaging on throwing dirt on the candidates.

[cantbeserious]

3. The Drive To Elect A Female President Trumps All Facts

eom

[UglyGreed]

4. I would love to have a Women

President but Elizabeth Warren refuses to run.

[cantbeserious]

8. Agreed - A Very Good Progressive - One Can Only Hope That She Would Run Someday

[JaneyVee]

5. Or perhaps we just believe Hillary will make a much better president.

So you can drop the sexist screed and assumptions that we only care about gender.

Hillary has policy proposals, union endorsements, party endorsements, endorsements from civil rights hero's, and experience putting her foot deep inside Republican assholes. She has stood face to face with foreign governments and excoriated them for human rights abuses and stood up for diplomacy around the globe. She is supremely qualified to be president and lead our country forward.

[COLGATE4]

6. +1

[jeff47]

9. If that were the case, you'd have been able to make

post after post showing how Clinton is better on various issues.

Of course, you try to do that with things like:

She has stood face to face with foreign governments and excoriated them for human rights abuses

and apparently forget about the coup in Honduras, which Clinton supported and wasn't exactly good for human rights.

[kelliekat44]

13. Actually very little that the US has done in conflict has been good for human rights..including

Korea and Viet Nam. Putting it all on HC's shoulders is disingenuous since many of those we love and support have many of her same positions. Nobody is perfect. By the same token, doing nothing in many of these conflicts would not have helped human rights either but it would have saved a lot of US servicemen's lives.

I think our problem is that we all mostly fail to see and respect the culture and perspective of other people around the world.

While Hillary has voted and supported military actions that have had disastrous consequences to date so have many others in our government. But Hillary has at least traveled (even before becoming Sec of State) and spoken out against human rights violations in the home courts of many of the oppressors. Others who complain have not done so.

[jeff47]

14. The coup in Honduras happened while she was SoS, not 50 years ago. (nt)

[Nitram]

10. Ugly, it is truly sexist to isist that people vote for Clinton only because she's a woman.

Clinton is a true-blue liberal who has worked long and hard for the people. So has Bernie.

[cwydro]

11. I'm a woman who finds your post offensive.

Did you say the same to African Americans about voting for Obama?

I've not made my mind up yet, but if I choose Hillary it will have nothing to do with her gender.

Oh, and its "rein in", not "reign in." The difference in the meaning of those two words changes your post considerably.