If Bernie Sanders does not get the nomination

[UglyGreed]

I will vote for Jill Stein. I know wasted vote, you are electing a Republican just like people who voted for Nader did. You are not a Liberal, you are sexist.....oh wait.....yeah you are I don't care if she is women. You are a liar and going to vote for Donald Trump or write in Rand Paul....... please feel free to add to the list.

[NCTraveler]

1. Huh? nt.

[riversedge]

2. who cares about sour grapes.

[NCTraveler]

6. People who like Ver jus?

[rhett o rick]

38. Sadly the grassroots Dems that are supporting Clinton should care. The Party Elite don't care,

because their backers don't care as long as Sanders is out. The Oligarchy likes Bush and Clinton so they aren't too worried about disgruntled grass-roots Dems. This is what happened in 2000 and the Democratic Elite tried to blame it on Nader to take attention away from their blunder in choosing a DLC Dem to beat a Bush. If HRC gets nominated bingo-bango 2000 all over again but w/o a Nader scapegoat. This poster isn't the only Democrat that feels this way. Those millions that support Sanders are doing so to make a change from the status quo corruption of big money politics. Sadly some Democrats have put their principles on hold and are going to support the 1%. Watch the poverty levels continue to grow. Watch more jobs move overseas. Watch our environment suffer from the ravages of fracking and oil drilling/spilling. Watch our infrastructure crumble and our children get priced out of college. This is what we will get with 8 more years of the Goldman-Sachs status quo.

But those that side with the big money can gloat but the Populist Movement won't die with the election in 2016. Peoples around the world are starting to revolt against the tyranny of the 1%.

[AgingAmerican]

43. That is the arrogant mindset

That lost us the last midterms

[LettuceSea]

3. The establishment didn't do enough to secure your vote. That's their fault.

They should be coming to the people, not the other way around.

If it means not enough votes, that's their fault, not yours.

[aidbo]

26. +1

[Dawgs]

44. Brilliant response. n/t

[senz]

63. Needed to be said.

[demmiblue]

4. If Bernie Sanders does not get the nomination, I will vote for Hillary Clinton.

It will be a vote against republicans... the alternative is unimaginable.

[daleanime]

5. Now just a minute, if Hillary doesn't get the nomination....

how could we elect a republican president?


Half and half

[UglyGreed]

7. Oh and let me add

that Hillary's supporters here at DU has helped me come to this decision. I know it won't hurt Hillary's chances but if her supporters reflect how Mrs. Clinton would treat those who do not support her or disagree with anything she says then I can not vote for her with a clear conscience.

[in_cog_ni_to]

27. Are you kidding me? After all the

Nasty, hateful posts in response to your other thread with ZERO COMPASSION and EMPATHY, I completely get what you're saying! I would never vote for someone who attracts that kind of supporter. Mean, nasty, hateful posts and completely lacking any compassion or empathy for their fellow man - A DEMOCRAT, NO LESS!

That's why they don't support Bernie. They don't give two hoots about you and others like you. They're in the *pull yourself up by your bootstraps* camp. And then they try to call themselves "Progressive", which is ridiculous on its face.

I agree with you on Jill Stein! If I can't write in Bernie's name, I'm voting for Jill. I might vote straight Green Party. I haven't decided yet.

I'm not voting for more the the same of this bullshit.

[NCTraveler]

41. Yup.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251687330

[mythology]

42. You can't seriously believe mean things haven't been said by both sides

Sanders supporters have bashed civil rights hero John Lewis, have said that voting for Clinton means one isn't a real Democrat, etc. Also you aren't voting voting for somebody's supprters. You vote for a candidate.

[NCTraveler]

40. "Hillary's supporters here at DU has helped me come to this decision."

Depth.

[AgingAmerican]

45. Right?

Normally we only hear that line from Hillary Supporters.

[NCTraveler]

46. Something I just can't wrap my head around. Glad you agree. nt.

[Cali_Democrat]

58. LOL....anonymous posters on a message board can influence your vote like that?

That's pretty sad.

Anyone who votes based on messages posted on an anonymous interweb message board probably shouldn't be voting.

[senz]

67. Absolutely. Her supporters here are her worst enemies.

They excel at alienating others.

[UglyGreed]

70. Got a couple

of emails today from one poster about Hillary's position on Social Security and though it was in good faith. Then the same person sends me an email about how Bernie's popularity has waned. Very classy indeed.

[JaneyVee]

9. Bookmarked!

For when SCOTUS goes further wingnut. I'm sure they'll heed to your demands.

[ismnotwasm]

10. So?

Vote for who you want--this needs an announcement?

[Tarc]

11. Thankfully, you are not representative of Sanders' supporters as a whole.

[Kingofalldems]

18. Clever.

[in_cog_ni_to]

29. Welcome to DU!

[SidDithers]

55. He's dead, Jim...

Sid

[SidDithers]

12. ...

Sid

[corkhead]

13. I am a Bernie supporter but if he doesn't win the nomination

there is a slight chance that I might throw my vote toward a 3rd party candidate. However, if there is even the remotest chance that my vote will matter at all, I will be voting for the person most likely to beat the Republicon.

The possibility of any of those republicon asshats being elected is unthinkable.

[restorefreedom]

14. it is on them to present a candidate worthy of our vote

if we end up with a third way corporate hawk instead of a real progressive, the Democratic establishment, after doing everything possible to rig this for Hillary, has no one to blame if they lose but themselves. We don't owe them anything. they have circled the wagons to protect a 1% corporate owned, pro war, pro death penalty, nonprogressive and force it down our throats.

those aren't even the ideals of the Democratic Party, at least they shouldn't be. I have repeatedly said and will continue to say right up until the day that the Democrat is nominated that if Bernie or O'Malley is not the nominee, I will either write in or vote for Jill Stein. I along with many others have been criticized because voting my conscience instead of Republican light might mean a republican gets in the wh. frankly, I don't see much difference between Hillary and the people who actually call themselves Republicans. Practically everything she stands for comes from the other side of the aisle. And I am not going to cast a vote for that. Not gonna hold my nose and vote for the D just because some people claim that it's the least of the worst. if they want to win so bad they can give us a candidate worthy of voting for.

[mythology]

48. Because if Sanders doesn't get the the most delegates

Obviously things were rigged. There is nothing stopping Sanders from winning winning he nomination other than he's well behind in in the polls. That's not because the game game is rigged, it's because at this point Sanders is less popular among the Democratic primary electorate.

Conspiracy theories are silly.

[AgingAmerican]

56. The game is rigged

By the DNC, the MSM and the GOP AND the oligarchy whom is bankrolling the election.

[99Forever]

60. I don't know about a game being rigged...

...but I'm damn sure the fucking Democratic Primary system is. I won't EVER vote for corrupt.

[restorefreedom]

64. its not a conspiracy theory when it actually happens

it's just a conspiracy. Or if you prefer, coordinated effort.

[senz]

65. That's not what the commenter is saying.

The commenter is stating the fact that there is little if any difference between Hillary and candidates who openly call themselves Republican.

Nothing "conspiratorial" about that.

[think]

16. I'd probably still vote for Hillary but it wouldn't be because she's the best option. She's just not

the worst option.

I'd so much rather vote for O'Malley if Bernie isn't the nominee.....

[deutsey]

39. Yep...a vote against the GOP rather than for the Democrat

Same as it ever was (since I started voting in '84, anyway).

[frazzled]

17. You and seven other people

Knock yourself out!

[think]

21. If Hillary is the nominee she damn well better try to get his vote. There's plenty of people sick

of corporate candidates that never live up to their hype.

There is a reason the largest growing segment in politics is independents. Many know all to well that neither party truly represents them especially at the presidential level.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

20. Please vote for whom you please.

That's how we roll in America...

[postatomic]

22. Jill Stein is a good person

But she's not a Democrat and knows that she won't be elected President. A self-awareness that seems lost on another candidate. The Green Party has a bottom up policy. They try to win elections down stream in the political food chain. They are truly a grass roots Party.

It's your vote. Do ... like ... whatever.

[Attorney in Texas]

23. Better to vote for the best candidate in the primary and then the best candidate in the general. I'm

voting for for Sanders in the primary notwithstanding my disappointment that Warren didn't run.

I hope I get the chance to vote for Sanders in the general election, too, but I'll vote for the best candidate who has any chance of winning (i.e., I'll vote for the Democratic nominee even if it is Clinton and not Sanders).

If you are in a state where the vote will be close, it is silly to sit on the sidelines or waste your vote in protest just because you wish you had a better choice. But if you are not in a state that is close, why not vote for Stein? She's awesome! If she had a chance of winning even in one state, I'd be thrilled to see it happen, but her odds are equal to Warren's chances as a write in candidate.

[Godhumor]

24. "Attention Democrats! Vote Bernie, because otherwise you can't count on my vote!"

There, just gave you the TLDR version of your OP for future reference.

[DanTex]

25. Voting 3rd party or not voting is half as bad as voting for the GOP directly.

[wilsonbooks]

30. Voting for Hillary is half as bad as voting for the GOP directly.

Harry Truman

Given the choice between a Republican and someone who acts like a Republican, people will vote for the real Republican all the time

[DanTex]

36. Voting for Hillary, if she is the candidate, is good. Obviously

Be serious. Have you seen the GOP debates?

[GoneFishin]

28. It seems pretty dimwitted to vote based on how other people vote. I will vote for who represents my

interests. And I will not vote for someone who does not represent my interests.

What other people do with their vote is their business.

[Old Codger]

33. I will slightly modify that

I will vote for the candidate that best represents Americas interests...

[GoneFishin]

69. Agreed. As it turns out my interest is in benefitting the 100% not the 0.100%.

But that might invite some people to tell me how great tinkle down economics is, and how sending our jobs overseas is actually good for Americans.

[TheKentuckian]

51. Yep, them being absolute trash doesn't raise her or any other Turd Wayer to minimally acceptable.

[kenfrequed]

31. I AM NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS!

Seriously, there hasn't been a single primary or caucus yet.

It is too soon to talk abou this.

Spend more time talking up Bernie and getting people to their primaries and caucuses and less doing this sort of nonsense.

[Bobbie Jo]

32. I'll alert the media.

BFD

[Politicalboi]

34. As much as I would like to

I just can't let the GOP walk away with everything if they win the WH. Besides, a Hillary win will make Faux Noise more enjoyable for the years to come.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

35. nothing is more motivating to make us vote for your candidate of choice than threats

which is what this is. I don't get my way, i withhold my vote.

I will always be deeply grateful to BIll Clinton for Ruth Bader Ginsberg, and if Hillary can get us some one even half as liberal, it will be well worth my vote.

[workinclasszero]

37. I will vote for the democratic candidate

Hillary, Bernie or O'Malley.

I won't have 3 hardcore right wing SCOTUS appointments that drag america back to the 1880's for the next 30 years on my conscience.

[LettuceSea]

49. And thaaaaat is how they will try to guilt you into voting for the lesser of 2 evils.

Why can't we sub out Ginsberg now?

Because the establishment did a terrible job getting people out to vote in '10, '14, resulting in congressional headwinds. So now you need us to bail you guys out.

You guys tell us to be accountable, perhaps the establishment should look themselves in the mirror?

[Mike__M]

54. Exactly

I had thought things HAD gotten bad enough. We'll see.
As for falling out of favor, the ridiculous attacks about shouting and interviewing for veep are the sort of thing that damage MY favor anyway. See my "Stand your Ground" comment below for an example of how stupid these phony attacks can look.

[Mike__M]

50. I do not believe

in shooting first and rationalizing later: I will gladly vote for a candidate that hasn't loudly proclaimed "I know how to Stand my Ground!"

[Starry Messenger]

52. Oh well.

[pinebox]

53. Agreed 100%

I will either pencil Bernie in or vote Jill Stein.
Why? The answer is simple, Hillary doesn't represent me and as a registered Indy, I vote for whomever does. Generally speaking that means I side with Dems but I feel Hillary isn't what we need in a POTUS, she's not Elizabeth Warren and I'm sick of people trying to say that she is. No, she's not progressive.

Her supporters and many Dems fail to realize that she is one of the most polarizing people in politics today and she will have a lot of trouble winning in general against a Republican opponent. Some don't like to hear that but a Hillary nomination would churn the GOP base in droves.

Sorry but she's far to conservative for my taste and what I look for in a candidate.

[liberal_at_heart]

57. I like Jill Stein. I wish I had voted for her last time. However this time I support

Bernie all the way to the end even if that means writing his name in on the ballot.

[Agnosticsherbet]

59. I'll worry about the General Election after the Primary is complete.

Threatening me with turning the Oval Office into a cat litter pan for Republicans if I don't vote for your favored candidate doesn't work.

[zappaman]

62. I will never NEVER EVER vote for Clinton, so THERE!!!!

[BootinUp]

66. I think Skinner already addressed this pretty well

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251732806

[trumad]

68. Wow..a pre-sour grape post.

I expect to see plenty of those in the near future.

That's alright...most who will post are trolls anyway.

[DCBob]

71. I will add this..