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Markos Moulitsas: The race in the Electoral College ISN'T tightening (Original Post) bigdarryl Aug 2012 OP
So Let's Keep The Pressure On a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #1
Excellent breakdown on battleground states however, Va Lefty Aug 2012 #2
My hunch is that Markos is correct about Super PAC spending and Obama in the general election. yellowcanine Aug 2012 #3
I don't remember it ever being this tight in Pollster.com Ashleyshubby Aug 2012 #4
Rasmussen-free EV map shows Obama WAY ahead. RedStateLiberal Aug 2012 #5
Just curious. Why is NC blue in your link? Ashleyshubby Aug 2012 #6
Probably because it excludes Rasmussen polls RedStateLiberal Aug 2012 #7
With Rasmussen excluded in Pollster.com, Romney's still ahead Ashleyshubby Aug 2012 #8
Yeah, it's really a toss-up. RedStateLiberal Aug 2012 #9

Va Lefty

(6,252 posts)
2. Excellent breakdown on battleground states however,
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 11:57 AM
Aug 2012

one point of contention--Markos states "Republican groups outspent the Democrats 3-1 in television last week. Perhaps without this spending disparity the numbers would be much different, with Obama winning easily, but I suspect that wouldn't be the case. I continue to believe that TV Super PAC spending at the presidential level (and Senate level too) has been wasted."
The people running these packs are many things but stupid is not one of them. They wouldn't be spending these huge amounts of $$$ if they thought it was not helping their candidates/agenda. I hope Markos is right about the Super Pacs, but money usually matters in elections especially a big discrepancy like 3-1 or 4-1.

yellowcanine

(35,698 posts)
3. My hunch is that Markos is correct about Super PAC spending and Obama in the general election.
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 12:25 PM
Aug 2012

Super PACs certainly had an effect in the Republican primaries, no question. And I think Super Pacs helped to define Romney in a negative way regarding taxes and Bain. I have a hard time seeing how the PACs will do much in terms of defining an incumbent like Obama though. For example, people are not going to be significantly influenced by a PAC as to how much they like Obama. That is pretty much set. And on questions of the economy or foreign policy there also will be little effect - the Swiftboating on bin Laden is pissing in the wind, imo.

 

Ashleyshubby

(81 posts)
8. With Rasmussen excluded in Pollster.com, Romney's still ahead
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 01:26 PM
Aug 2012

Try it. Pollster.com allows you to exclude any pollster(s) in their "filter" dropdown menu.

RedStateLiberal

(1,374 posts)
9. Yeah, it's really a toss-up.
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 01:31 PM
Aug 2012

I really don't expect Obama to win NC. He doesn't really need that state since he's so far ahead in EVs.

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