Sanders should give up, say Clinton supporters

[HassleCat]

Here is a post from (name deleted) on the Clinton board. http://www.democraticunderground.com/110725254

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"bernie sanders has to realize by now he is creating a Republican Campaign Commercial

..if he strikes too hard against Clinton" as to the investigation. "He's walking a fine line in trying to draw a contrast to Clinton, but he has to do something to get his numbers up".

NPR just now, speaking with MSNBC Kate Snow


Personally I believe we are witnessing the last gasp of a dying political campaign. He has no chance of winning more than one Primary State, at best & on a really good day.

Bets are that he goes home after Feb 8, 2016.

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Does he have a point? One fault they share with us is that they leap to the conclusion everything said about their candidate is an attack. In both cases, these attacks are seen as useless because Clinton has already won. We say she should just relax and not say anything bad about Bernie because she believes she has it in the bag. They say the same thing, but add we're just giving the Republicans more ammo to fire at Hillary in a futile attempt to convince people they should support Bernie over Hillary.

Well, we're both wrong. We have primaries so political candidates can criticize each other and persuade voters to support them, not their opponents. As long as Clinton and Sanders keep it fair and factual, they should point out each other's shortcomings. Clinton should ask Sanders why he supported indemnifying gun makers from certain lawsuits. Sanders should ask Clinton why she favors capital punishment. And so on.

In regard to this specific issue, the OP reflects the hyper-sensitivity of supporters, theirs and ours. Sanders said the investigation into Clinton's emails should continue, and that is correct. He was speaking of the FBI investigation, not the Gowdy Circus, which he already called out in a very public way. So it's not an attack. Everybody should just relax and accept the primary campaign for what it is. Politics.

On edit: I deleted the name of the OP author because it might be considered a "call out." It certainly is not, and I have no attention in "calling out" anyone, ever. I assumed I should give credit to the person who wrote the OP, but others advised me it does not work that way. Thank you. I get it.

[VanillaRhapsody]

1. Call out!

paging MIRT....paging MIRT!

[HassleCat]

2. What is a MIRT?

If you tell me, and I can see my post is an example, I will remove it. I have heard the term, but I don't know what it means.

[jeff47]

5. Malicious Intruder Removal Team

A group of volunteer DUers who are granted the power to ban low-post-count posters. Their job is to get rid of the right-wing trolls that constantly create new accounts to spam the board.

MIRT can't do anything to people with more than 100 posts. You have more than 2,000.

That post is an attempt (joking or not) to make you shut up.

[HassleCat]

11. OK, thanks

The objection was that I was trying to "call out" somebody, which I don't do. I removed the OP author's name from my post.

[arcane1]

4. MIRT has no power over this post n/t

[VanillaRhapsody]

6. Is it or is it not a Call Out???

that should be automatic hide...

[Capt. Obvious]

7. I understand you are very familiar with hides

not so much MIRT.

[arcane1]

8. Hides are done by juries, not by MIRT n/t

[VanillaRhapsody]

9. I know that....sheesh...

no levity bone I suppose...

[ish of the hammer]

13. how about this for a joke-

Clinton's e-mail show an admittedly tenuous connection between the Honduras military coup and Clinton.
Is there also a connection between Dole Foods and/or Chiquita and Clinton's campaign? or possibly the Clinton Foundation?

[HassleCat]

18. it's conceivable

Didn't we invade Honduras several times in the early 1900s? Most people attribute that to influence by United Fruit, so there is historic precedent for US influence in Honduran affairs.

[ish of the hammer]

20. was Gen. Semdley Butler in Honduras?

my favorite marine general.

[VanillaRhapsody]

28. Waaaahhhhhh!

[oasis]

19. I'm going to be on the lookout for sub 100 count posters

who post off topic in threads in order to boost their post numbers.

[randys1]

26. Karl Rove is proud of them, and this is classic troll. Change the subject, and of course

as Hillary is the target. well hell.

It is so obvious who sent these people here.

We are talking about this one poster at this point, hopefully people will understand that

[HassleCat]

49. Perhaps you will do me the courtesy og telling me who sentme here? I would like to know.

[randys1]

50. You tell me, anytime someone lends credence to the email issue, I suspect their motives.

[HassleCat]

51. I agree with Sanders

The Gowdy "investigation" must stop. The FBI investigation must continue. I realize many people would like to lump them together, but they are not the same.

[SwampG8r]

47. Then you will only be

Targeting new posters with the intent of.quieting them if you disagree with what they say.
Welcome to du...sweet Jesus.

[oasis]

48. "Disagree with what they say"? No, not at all.

It's how they say, what they say.

[arcane1]

3. I never hear people talk like this about O'Malley, despite him polling worse than Sanders.

Funny how that works.

[wendylaroux]

12. i know right?

they get along so much better too,odd aint it? huh,it stumps me.

[Dem2]

24. Seems logical

Why would people want a non-threat to leave the race?

Why wouldn't folks on one side want the closet threat to their candidate to quit? It's silly, but that's what people on either side do - argue for *their* candidate.

[Kalidurga]

10. Hillary supporters sure like to scream a lot over a candidate that has no chance of winning...

It's very odd. I don't think Hillary is going to get the nomination. Hence my lack of concern and why I have never done an OP about the many things I don't like about her. It's not important. I have other things to focus on rather than be obsessed about someone who is going to lose.

[arcane1]

16. She'll stick around until at least June because that's when RFK was assassinated.

I wonder if the campaign will stoop that low again. Odds are in favor.

[Kalidurga]

17. Well I have no idea how low she can go...

But, from what I have seen so far she is willing to do just about anything. And I still don't care. The more it looks like she is playing dirty the less chance she has of winning.

[OKNancy]

22. Are you kidding? You really think that Hillary will try to assassinate someone

That sounds like the old Republican Clinton hit-list bull.

[Kalidurga]

23. No I don't think she will try to assassinate someone

why would you think I think that?

[OKNancy]

25. I thought you were agreeing with arcane's post

Perhaps I'm misinterpreting what was posted.

[arcane1]

29. In 2008 she caught hell for referencing RFK's death as a reason to stay in the race.

Keith Olbermann especially gave her a world of shit for it:

[LiberalArkie]

36. That is going to leave a mark.

[Vattel]

46. Olbremann revealed himself to be a drooling idiot on that.

Clinton did not say that RFK's death was a reason to stay in the race. We don't need to endorse Olbermann's smear to find great reasons not to vote for Clinton.

[tularetom]

32. Arcane was repeating Hillary's own words from 2008

Not accusing her of conspiring to assassinate anybody.

[Kalidurga]

34. No I was just responding to it

I was thinking about the attempts at character assassination, not an actual assassination. I know nada about RFK, I do recall he was assassinated in the bang bang dead kind of way, didn't know the date though. PS I don't think any democrat had anything to do with that.

[Art_from_Ark]

38. Arcane's post was based on this remark by Hillary

[arcane1]

42. Thank you. I was having trouble finding the original for some reason

[Art_from_Ark]

44. Glad to be of service

[mcar]

40. WTF are you talking about?

Assassination? What campaign will stoop "that low" again? "Odds are in favor" of what?

Are you seriously suggesting that HRC had RFK assassinated and will do same to BS? Seriously?

[arcane1]

41. Nothing of the sort. See post 29 for details n/t

[Catherina]

14. Meh, just a repeat of 2008 when they demanded the same of Obama

Sander's isn't "creating a Republican Campaign Commercial". Hillary's attack ads write themselves without any help from anyone except Hillary herself.

Rec'd

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

15. Well, they're ringing up a lot of No Sales here.

[frylock]

21. Not a very strong candidacy if merely comparing records will be used..

for Republican campaign ads. Maybe they're calling for the wrong candidate to drop out.

[liberal N proud]

27. No way...

If Sanders was not in the race, the media would have only played into the Republicans hands and focused on onslaught of Benghazi and email witch hunts. He provides some diversion for the media.

[Thinkingabout]

30. Painting with a very broad brush. I don't mind going through the complete primary. This is a call

By Sanders and his camp.

[HassleCat]

31. Thank you

I think many Democrats on both sides see the value of the primaries. They give the public an opportunity to see the candidates, including what they say about each other, and they way they say it.

[TSIAS]

33. What about O'Malley?

Sanders has the support of at least 1/4 of Democratic primary voters. O'Malley barely can get to 5 %.

I think all the candidates should stay in until the voters, and not just the super-delegates, start to have their say.

[George II]

35. .

[6chars]

37. He is totally staying in and he should

Even if it gets to the point where Sanders has no chance, he wants to get out a message about ideas that most Americans don't know about or understand. It is working. And a fair number of the people who hear his message might become new Democratic voters. Or he might win.

[bravenak]

39. I think I suggested it too.

But I am open to change since he is now a Democrat.

[OilemFirchen]

43. Why is the entirety of your title a fabrication?

Just curious, thank you.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

45. I get my Cats mixed up on this board....

Cosmic Cat
Hassle Cat
Coffee Cat

I forget which is which...


All I will say is I look at all the candidate forums as safe havens and leave em alone.