2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWell I guess its time for Hillary to unleash the Kraken after BS's comment today.
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People whine when its said he's sexist....then what does this mean
Sanders says theres earlier butt to kick before the GOPs
CONCORD, N.H. As he filed Thursday to run in New Hampshires Democratic contest for president, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) fielded a colorful question from someone crammed into the secretary of states office here: You ready to kick some Republican butt, Bernie?
Theres some earlier butt we have to deal with, the Vermont senator replied, in a less-than-graceful reference to the Democratic front-runner Hillary Rodham Clinton.
The remark, which prompted some nervous laughter in a room packed with reporters and supporters, comes as Clintons camp has already suggested that Sanders and his team are treating her in a sexist fashion a notion Sanders has vigorously denied. Thursdays comment seemed likely to provide additional fodder.
There had been controversy of another sort prior to Sanderss filing Thursday, with some questioning whether the longest-serving independent in Congress would be eligible to run as a Democrat in the nations first primary state.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/11/05/sanders-says-theres-earlier-butt-to-
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3305746/Bernie-Sanders-says-s-ready-kick-Hillary-s-butt-New-Hampshire-attacks-classified-email-investigation.html
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)In a previous thread you said:
Hillary has policy proposals, union endorsements, party endorsements, endorsements from civil rights hero's, and experience putting her foot deep inside Republican assholes. She has stood face to face with foreign governments and excoriated them for human rights abuses and stood up for diplomacy around the globe. She is supremely qualified to be president and lead our country forward
Then I responded:
what would say if someone inferred a politician was going to put their foot in Hillary Clinton's ass
I know it's it just a figure of speech but it has rape connotations and imagery of dominance by violating the body cavity of another human being.
The reason I point this out is because it seems the Hillary Clinton supporters are very sensitive to sexist language but don't seem to realize a lot of what they say is not any better and in this case worse.
Watch (disclaimer = this is just an exercise. I do NOT mean the following):
I really wanna see Bernie Sanders win and put his foot in Hillary Clinton's asshole!
...
Do you see how bad that looks? Would I not be rightfully and totally called out here on DU?
So why is such language any better using it against Republicans?
Hint. It's not. Integrity matters.
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And here you are, using the "unhinged" meme for saying something less offensive than you said.
You are a typical "four legs good, two legs bad" hack.
And for the record Bernie shouldn't have said what he said.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)When you are caught in the act just stop and ask for forgiveness.
It is ok we all say stupid things.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)WTF are you talking about? Sorry for what??
Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Then demanded I apologize for it, and you're saying I'M beyond hope?
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)They have been trying this tact with me all day...they are all unhinged....they were so convinced they were part of a a revolution....a revolution where they get to sit on the couch down in the basement!
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)EOM
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)coyote
(1,561 posts)Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)then yes you are beyond hope.
You are basically caught red handed here.
Your "what me?" defense fools no one.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Seriously.
You tried to call me a hypocrite for not calling Bernie a sexist, then you demanded I apologize for it.
You ok?
Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Or has someone died and left you the boss of us?
Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)They cannot see through it.
trumad
(41,692 posts)Cha
(296,732 posts)Cha
(296,732 posts)attacking her.
Thank you, trumad
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)You provide a service not unlike "those who watch Fox news so we won't have to ".
That is a nice gift and we appreciate it!
mythology
(9,527 posts)It's obvious intentional hyperbole that has no more connection to reality than when I say that I'm starving if I haven't eaten all day when I'm in no actual danger of real starvation.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)It wasn't sexist when referencing republicans, of which one is a woman?
Imagine that.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,121 posts)Just a thought.
Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)So is all notation of her record and stated positions.
frylock
(34,825 posts)jkbRN
(850 posts)elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)Hillary Clinton is the greatest counter puncher since Joe Louis:
Somebody is going to have their butt kicked and it ain't Madame Secretary
BTW, it reminds me of George Herbert Walker Bush who told a bunch of longshoremen after his vice presidential debate with Geraldine Ferraro "he kicked a little ass."
Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)No such restraint is needed against an interloper.
"Kicking (Hilary's) butt."...The septuagenarian senator needs to check himself.
BootinUp
(47,053 posts)loved the joe louis vid.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)He planned to fight for every delegate in the caucus states and Hillary blew her money in the first month hoping for an immediate knockout.
Once she didn't win by knockout it was really over but the flailing. There was no counter-punching involved.
Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)Hillary took the first swing, missed, then Obama swung back and won...
That's exactly what you described.
It is as if you set out to prove my point.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)But there is another kind and that is what I was referring to when I replied to DSB.
Obama is a counter puncher and he is the best. He describes himself as such. Google it ifyou don't believe me.
Here is the address: www.google.com then type Obama counter puncher. Watch some vids. You'll see.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Clinton's strategy was known.
You're completely wrong about this.
Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)Here are just a handful of links (there are many more):
http://www.politico.com/blogs/ben-smith/2008/04/obama-counterpuncher-007813
http://humanevents.com/2008/03/04/barack-obama-as-a-boxer/
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/175399-two-kinds-of-cool
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/41501
http://o-youknow.blogspot.com/2011/09/obama-political-counter-puncher.html?m=1
And....
https://m.
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I am getting so tired of you guys.
BootinUp
(47,053 posts)and I was proud of both him and Hillary when it was done.
Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)BlueCheese
(2,522 posts)Cringeworthy, but I wouldn't say it was sexist-- note that that's entirely the Washington Post's addition to this.
Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)Historic NY
(37,449 posts)from 2 other major tv news networks covering this event where he got on the ballot. The reporters there were frankly stunned. I expect you see more. Bernie just keeps on giving the ammo out for commercials.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)The poor dears.
artislife
(9,497 posts)cyberswede
(26,117 posts)Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,121 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!
underpants
(182,580 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)over the country Bernie!
Now with you spouting bs and siding with teahaddists it's getting down right embarrassing!
Quit now Bernie, maybe you can salvage your reputation.
Maybe not.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)I think that is as likely as Paul Reubens kicking Brock Lesnar's butt...
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Flailing around grasping at straws, anything to save his failed campaign
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)It's as if he is withering away right before our eyes.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)reformist2
(9,841 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)It would be like me saying I am going to kick Wladimir Klitschko's butt...
zappaman
(20,606 posts)Good grief.
BlueCheese
(2,522 posts)ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)A lot.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)A lot.
He has as much chance of kicking her butt as I have of kicking Wladimir Klitschko's butt.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)Even her enemies have to know she has iron in her spine.
BootinUp
(47,053 posts)but its a nice bedtime fairy tale for those that oppose her.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)EOM
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)EOM
MrWendel
(1,881 posts)then it ain't coming from Bernie.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)EOM
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)wendylaroux
(2,925 posts)I'll kick it,cage fight.
MineralMan
(146,248 posts)It's not in any dictionary, either. What does it mean?
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)MineralMan
(146,248 posts)It's not a word, either in English. Maybe you mean Kraken, a mythical sea monster. Is that it? If so, then I have to say that I don't think Hillary has any powers over mythical beasts.
wendylaroux
(2,925 posts)he's pretty mythical.
MineralMan
(146,248 posts)What does he have to do with this thread?
TDale313
(7,820 posts)From Clash of the Titans. Basically been used as slang/an Internet meme for years now for bring out the big guns. Just FYI.
MineralMan
(146,248 posts)I do know what the Kraken is, though.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)Very clever
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)hootinholler
(26,449 posts)Fearless
(18,421 posts)taught_me_patience
(5,477 posts)Bernie is withering right before our eyes. I predict O'malley beats Bernie in Iowa.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)EOM
DURHAM D
(32,603 posts)ick factor x10
He is so unappealing.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Cha
(296,732 posts)debate against Geraldine Ferraro? big tough guys bush sr and Bernie.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/03/the-inside-story-of-ferraros-1984-debate-prep/73070/
frylock
(34,825 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)I say she loses North Carolina, Ohio, Florida, Virginia and possibly Colorado.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)PPP's new North Carolina poll finds Hillary Clinton with her largest lead in the state since May. 61% of Democrats in the state support Clinton to 24% for Bernie Sanders, 5% for Martin O'Malley, and 2% for Lawrence Lessig. A month ago Clinton led 51/23 in a Joe Biden-less field and these numbers suggest that pretty much everyone who's made up their mind since then has gone into her camp.
North Carolina provides more evidence of Clinton's favorability numbers improving over the last month. She's gone up a net 9 points from +34 (63/29) in September to now +43 (67/24). Her lead is pretty steady across the board- she gets 74% with African Americans, 66% with seniors, 65% with liberals, 62% with women, 60% with men, 58% with moderates, and 57% with whites. The group where Sanders come closest is with younger voters, but even there Clinton still has a 50/34 advantage.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/president/
Our exclusive poll also showed Hillary Clinton with a fierce lead, 66 percent to Bernie Sanders' 24 percent, among likely Democratic voters . Our Democratic political analyst, former state Rep. Dick Batchelor, said we would likely see a similar result on primary day.
http://www.baynews9.com/content/news/baynews9/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2015/11/3/florida_decides_poll_2016_election.html
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)Her supporters can't decide.
artislife
(9,497 posts)AzDar
(14,023 posts)mhatrw
(10,786 posts)Hillary Clinton has a female butt, so you can only kick it literally, not figuratively, which somehow makes you sexist because you said "butt" while discussing a female, so you must have meant you want to kick her literal, actual female butt.
And only a sexist would use the same expression for winning a campaign against a male candidate that he uses for winning a campaign against a female candidate.
Was this article written by Beavis and Butthead?
Splinter Cell
(703 posts)That is the best thing she could do for the country.
Cha
(296,732 posts)see how easy that shite is to type.
aikoaiko
(34,159 posts)It's nice when HRC supporters admit it.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)Release the kraken
To pwn, to kick the ass of whomever you're releasing the kraken on
I'm totally going to release the kraken on that test tomorrow
by ashraptor March 31, 2010
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Release+the+kraken&defid=4849783
In my milieu we call it an ass whuppin.