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McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 04:47 AM Nov 2015

So, Yeah, I Want Our Next President to Be a Woman. Wanna Make Something of It?

Twice as many women were killed by their intimate partners in this country between 2002 and 2012 as the number of US troops that died in Iraq and Afghanistan AND folks who were killed on 9-11. One in three women around the globe has been a victim of domestic violence. When women are beaten by their partners, folks still ask "What did she do to deserve it?"

In 1969, Yoko Ono said "Woman is the n----- of the world." Little has changed since then, especially in the third world. Women hold up half the sky--and only own a small fraction of the world's wealth. 1%, to be exact, even though they make up 40% of the world's work force. This is no accident. Women are systematically exploited, disenfranchised, denied education, mocked, beaten, raped and murdered if they try to rise up from their serfdom.

If there was a country where any single group of men contributed so much to the workforce but received so little in exchange, we would denounce that country. The way we denounced South Africa. Where is our outrage for women? Why is the Never-ending War Against Women not the first, second and third most important issues of this election?

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So, Yeah, I Want Our Next President to Be a Woman. Wanna Make Something of It? (Original Post) McCamy Taylor Nov 2015 OP
No issue at all JackInGreen Nov 2015 #1
Not before HRC/2016! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #33
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Me too. It is our time. Only we can get things straightened out. bravenak Nov 2015 #3
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Whatever does this have to do with my comment? Seriously? bravenak Nov 2015 #5
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I said TIME not TURN. bravenak Nov 2015 #9
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You have no idea what I meant. bravenak Nov 2015 #15
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You seem to need lots of explanations. bravenak Nov 2015 #19
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Hillary internet volunteers? murielm99 Nov 2015 #30
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I did not think anything. bravenak Nov 2015 #8
It makes one wonder BlueMTexpat Nov 2015 #10
I know, right? They just spit stuff out, randomly. bravenak Nov 2015 #12
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This message was self-deleted by its author angrychair Nov 2015 #11
Seems like one. bravenak Nov 2015 #13
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Lol angrychair Nov 2015 #20
alert results irisblue Nov 2015 #21
You seem confused about who was breaking the rules here, irisblue muriel_volestrangler Nov 2015 #23
So the only way you can say someone is a troll jfern Nov 2015 #24
Its not? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #36
I want our next president to be a progressive one, regardless of gender. Splinter Cell Nov 2015 #22
Thank you! denvine Nov 2015 #34
+1 deutsey Nov 2015 #41
Palin/Bachmann 2016! delrem Nov 2015 #25
LOL! Beat me to it, but I was going to say Fiorina/Rubio. merrily Nov 2015 #26
it would be great if that woman was for 2pooped2pop Nov 2015 #28
Why would I care why you want Hillary to be president. Being president should not be considered as djean111 Nov 2015 #29
Go Carly!! Lucky Luciano Nov 2015 #31
Have you looked at Rep. Tulsi Gabbard? PADemD Nov 2015 #32
I just saw her interviewed the other night SwampG8r Nov 2015 #42
I hope I live long enough to see that. PADemD Nov 2015 #45
Me too. But only if it's Elizabeth Warren eridani Nov 2015 #35
I do not vote just by gender Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #37
does it matter which one... lame54 Nov 2015 #38
Hell yeah. Preach it!!!!!!!!!! nt. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #39
There's no fucking way hootinholler Nov 2015 #40
Equality zalinda Nov 2015 #43
More than one woman is running. Carly is out of the question. Sorry. Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #44
I want our next President to be A Native American. Wanna make something of it? EndElectoral Nov 2015 #46
No. You aren't that important. closeupready Nov 2015 #47
I want our next President to be a wounded veteran. Wanna make something of that? EndElectoral Nov 2015 #48
I want our next President to be an incarcerated black man. Wanna make something of that? EndElectoral Nov 2015 #49
Are you donating to GLORIA LA RIVA! snooper2 Nov 2015 #50
Only if she takes off those glasses and gets an image consultant EndElectoral Nov 2015 #52
I want our next president to be a progressive dove, not a guilty moderate hawk. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #51
Which candidate would that be? Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #54
Not Hillary. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #55
It will not be Sanders either, he has voted more than one time for military action, has stated he Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #59
This is a case of how much nose holding is involved. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #61
The right wing heads exploded about Obama, now I look forward to the rest of them becoming kimbutgar Nov 2015 #53
I Want Our Next President to be the most progressive candidate. Gender is secondary. demwing Nov 2015 #56
There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. MuseRider Nov 2015 #57
I hope to see a woman LWolf Nov 2015 #58
Because gender matters more than issues? pinebox Nov 2015 #60

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murielm99

(30,657 posts)
30. Hillary internet volunteers?
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 07:05 AM
Nov 2015

Who are they? Are they an organized group? Why have I never heard of them? Are you sure this doesn't belong in the Creative Speculation group?

I guess I missed the training sessions. Where do I sign up?

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angrychair

(8,594 posts)
20. Lol
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 05:32 AM
Nov 2015

I don't bite on feeder lines friend. I've already seen you troll two different people in two different threads.
If you are not a troll and you want to be taken seriously than you need to moderate your approach and not bait people.

irisblue

(32,829 posts)
21. alert results
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 05:35 AM
Nov 2015

Likely troll Bravenak
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=772676

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Calling another poster a troll is disruptive and rude. The poster is clear that they are to the left of Hillary, but the thread topic is Hillary, so their comments are valid here.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Fri Nov 6, 2015, 03:33 AM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Snark following snark, I can't hide in the middle
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
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Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: MIRT needed here Leave irisblue
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
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Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: On the contrary, the new poster is intelligent and seems to have done some research. Not a troll just because of difference of opinion.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

muriel_volestrangler

(101,158 posts)
23. You seem confused about who was breaking the rules here, irisblue
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 05:51 AM
Nov 2015

Here, let Skinner explain it:

The reason your post was hidden is because you called SOMEONE ELSE a troll. That's uncivil.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1259&pid=8963

jfern

(5,204 posts)
24. So the only way you can say someone is a troll
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 05:55 AM
Nov 2015

and not be considered a troll is if you call yourself a troll?

denvine

(798 posts)
34. Thank you!
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 07:20 AM
Nov 2015

My thoughts exactly. I would love a woman president also but will not vote for a woman just because she is a woman. I want the right progressive person for the country.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
29. Why would I care why you want Hillary to be president. Being president should not be considered as
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 06:41 AM
Nov 2015

some sort of prize or reward.

As a woman, it takes a whole lot more than gender to get my support.
Too bad Elizabeth Warren is not running; she would have had my full support, because of the issues I am concerned with.

PADemD

(4,482 posts)
32. Have you looked at Rep. Tulsi Gabbard?
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 07:13 AM
Nov 2015

I think she would make a good President in a few years. She turns 35 in April.

SwampG8r

(10,287 posts)
42. I just saw her interviewed the other night
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 09:44 AM
Nov 2015

I turned to my wife.and said there's the first woman president

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
37. I do not vote just by gender
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 07:26 AM
Nov 2015

I look at policy positions. I agree Elizabeth would be an awesome president!!

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
40. There's no fucking way
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 09:40 AM
Nov 2015

I'm gonna vote for Fiona or however the fuck she spells her name because she's not worth looking it up.

zalinda

(5,621 posts)
43. Equality
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 10:25 AM
Nov 2015

I keep seeing that word bandied about all the time on these boards, but it always seems to go one way. It was crazier in 2008 than it is now, because both groups declared that they deserved to win because of inequality. The only way to get equality is to strip away physical characteristics of a person and just read what that person wants to do or has done. Barriers are being broken all the time, but it is difficult to change a preconceived notion.

Even traditional roles are being turned upside down. More and more men are becoming the family caretaker, while the spouse becomes the major breadwinner. There are strong women and weak men. Who hasn't heard of the strong black woman, but there are also black women who aren't that strong. They say that men are the only ones who can make the tough decisions, not true, women make tough decisions every day. We all know the stereotypes, but things are changing, thank goodness.

To really be equal, you must treat each individual the same, within reason of course. When I look at our candidates, I really don't care about their color, sex or religion. I care about what they have done on issues and what they plan to do on issues.

And, if Bernie is sexist about kicking Hillary's butt, then when she says it about Bernie or O'Malley then she is sexist too.

Z

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
44. More than one woman is running. Carly is out of the question. Sorry.
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 11:00 AM
Nov 2015

And for Hillary this sort of argument crashes headlong into her opposition to marriage equality because a big part of that position is 'those women can not do as they wish, love as they wish, they will be told how to be and if they want marriage they can find a man'.
I get that straight Hillary supporters think 'gay marriage' and they see two 40 year old men with big Freddie Mercury mustaches but that's just prejudice.

Also, she was calling the TPP the gold standard and it legitimizes nations that oppress, punish and even execute LGBT people and women who do not conform. How can that be acceptable to a candidate who would allow the arguments you are making?
The women of Brunei do not count? LGBT women, they are not women? Their equality has not always been Hillary's position, now has it? No, it has not.

EndElectoral

(4,213 posts)
46. I want our next President to be A Native American. Wanna make something of it?
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 11:26 AM
Nov 2015

Only Native Americans can understand the poverty, and neglect they've faced through years of abuse.

EndElectoral

(4,213 posts)
48. I want our next President to be a wounded veteran. Wanna make something of that?
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 11:29 AM
Nov 2015

Only a veteran who has truly faced combat can understand the sacrifices that their fellow soldiers endured can truly make decisions about war. And understand the need for veteran care post war.

EndElectoral

(4,213 posts)
49. I want our next President to be an incarcerated black man. Wanna make something of that?
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 11:31 AM
Nov 2015

Prisons are overpopulated with black men at a higher proportion than any other demographic. These men are victimized by poverty, surrounded by violence and gangs, and only they can understand what prison life is really life, and the environments that lead to their incarceration.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
59. It will not be Sanders either, he has voted more than one time for military action, has stated he
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 01:03 PM
Nov 2015

would take military action and will use drones.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
61. This is a case of how much nose holding is involved.
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 02:42 PM
Nov 2015

Sanders is a bit under the excessive bar. Hillary isn't.

kimbutgar

(20,882 posts)
53. The right wing heads exploded about Obama, now I look forward to the rest of them becoming
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 11:37 AM
Nov 2015

Zombies when Hillary becomes the first woman President!

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
56. I Want Our Next President to be the most progressive candidate. Gender is secondary.
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 12:01 PM
Nov 2015

If the GE were between Carly and Bernie, who would you vote for?

if the answer isn't Bernie, then yeah, I want to "Make Something of it." Now what?

MuseRider

(34,060 posts)
57. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that.
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 12:01 PM
Nov 2015

While I don't think that for me that is a reason to vote for someone I surely cannot say it is not an important vote for others and perfectly OK given the position we as women are always in.

While I would love to join you for me HRC is not the solution so I can't join you, at least in the primary.

As a woman I understand completely why you would make this decision and I think it is a perfectly good reason. Your reasoning is correct and well said.

You will have no argument from me and my vote if she is our nominee mainly for reasons directly associated with her being female.

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