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Wed Nov 11, 2015, 01:12 PM

To say I'm disappointed is an understatement....

As Democrats we have three excellent candidates.
Just look at the other side. We cajole, we laugh, we are glad that is not our side.

But we,here, are turning into them.

I will support any candidate the Dems put up. I vote my party.

Do I have a thought on who is the better? Of fucking course! Will I slam another's choice?
Yes on the fucking issues! Not anything else.

We will all be better off if a Democrat wins the election. There's too much at stake.

Look at the other side!

All this other shit has got to stop.

I don't post much, I have been here for a loooong time. First as a long time lurker, then I joined.

I come here to get the take on the main issues of our time.

But all this shit that is going down here lately is about supporters, not the ever loving issues.
Try to get real.

I think some people have a fear of change. That ok. Me too. I think some people cannot accept way, way, way differences in political policy, ok! Say that. Face your fears, discuss that, them.
Don't disparage other members for their fears.

This place now reminds me of the steps of grief. Think and listen.

I will never place anyone on ignore, I think it's rude. Just wrong. I need to listen to everyone.
Will I agree? Who knows?

But slamming people for thier beliefs, just not right, not acceptable.

I cannot be here for a great while to respond cuz I kinda got a life outta politics. I need to hike at least five miles a day to keep my fucking dog happy, and I will guess me also

Just remember we are all,in this crap together. We will support each other when we need to.

I love this site, it has made me a more informed and better person. Let's keep that aspect up.


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Reply To say I'm disappointed is an understatement.... (Original post)
N_E_1 for Tennis Nov 2015 OP
CurtEastPoint Nov 2015 #1
N_E_1 for Tennis Nov 2015 #36
Ron Green Nov 2015 #2
CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2015 #3
DFW Nov 2015 #20
N_E_1 for Tennis Nov 2015 #22
Hortensis Nov 2015 #4
aidbo Nov 2015 #11
Hortensis Nov 2015 #28
aidbo Nov 2015 #38
Hortensis Nov 2015 #42
N_E_1 for Tennis Nov 2015 #23
Hortensis Nov 2015 #25
N_E_1 for Tennis Nov 2015 #39
Hortensis Nov 2015 #41
JaneyVee Nov 2015 #5
ibegurpard Nov 2015 #6
bunnies Nov 2015 #8
N_E_1 for Tennis Nov 2015 #35
bunnies Nov 2015 #37
N_E_1 for Tennis Nov 2015 #40
TM99 Nov 2015 #9
roguevalley Nov 2015 #19
N_E_1 for Tennis Nov 2015 #34
NCTraveler Nov 2015 #7
N_E_1 for Tennis Nov 2015 #43
NCTraveler Nov 2015 #45
tishaLA Nov 2015 #10
N_E_1 for Tennis Nov 2015 #24
Number23 Nov 2015 #32
ibegurpard Nov 2015 #49
firebrand80 Nov 2015 #12
N_E_1 for Tennis Nov 2015 #31
Dem2 Nov 2015 #13
snort Nov 2015 #14
N_E_1 for Tennis Nov 2015 #26
Happyhippychick Nov 2015 #15
N_E_1 for Tennis Nov 2015 #27
Plucketeer Nov 2015 #16
N_E_1 for Tennis Nov 2015 #33
DFW Nov 2015 #17
Dustlawyer Nov 2015 #18
N_E_1 for Tennis Nov 2015 #29
Dont call me Shirley Nov 2015 #21
Tom_Foolery Nov 2015 #30
Capt. Obvious Nov 2015 #44
DrewFlorida Nov 2015 #46
MohRokTah Nov 2015 #47
DesertRat Nov 2015 #48
bigwillq Nov 2015 #50
HereSince1628 Nov 2015 #51

Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 01:19 PM

1. THANK YOU! Please! Everyone read and take to heart.

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Response to CurtEastPoint (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 05:06 PM

36. Thank you CEP...

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Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 01:22 PM

2. Thank you. The issues, the ISSUES, THE ISSUES.

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Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 01:22 PM

3. I absolutely agree.

I find the personal crap very upsetting, and childish.

I thought we were better than that........



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Response to CaliforniaPeggy (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 03:47 PM

20. Take heart: some of us are! Yourself included

It's an unfortunate fact that "get a life" cannot be enforced in a court of law.

Oh, and in case I forgot to mention it, if you don't disavow your preferred candidate and praise mine instead, you're a gun-loving corporate racist money-worshipping socialist oligarch, so there!

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Response to CaliforniaPeggy (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 04:13 PM

22. We are better..

We just need to relax a little bit more. And focus.

Love ya cal peg.

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Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 01:25 PM

4. I'm guessing we'd all stay better balanced with daily 5-mile hikes.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 01:55 PM

11. That is also literally true, walking/hiking exercise improves balance.

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Response to aidbo (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 04:31 PM

28. Aidbo, thanks for yet another reason I should be

boring myself silly out walking. Falling over while pulling on socks is a new thing, and very irritating.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #28)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 05:11 PM

38. Podcasts, local NPR, audiobooks, books on tape.

That's how I get through a long walk. Tougher in the winter though.

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Response to aidbo (Reply #38)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 05:16 PM

42. I've been known to read a book, not the safest thing tho. :)

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 04:16 PM

23. You have no idea!

Great for the heart and soul.
Five heart attacks and two strokes.
Just a reminder of life as it is.

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Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Reply #23)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 04:24 PM

25. Goodness. Just as long as they were before and not during.

And preferably someone else's.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #25)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 05:12 PM

39. No all mine...

I take a little pride in that as sick as it may be.
Taken great care of in the VA system and alive to talk about it.

I'm 64 and just getting into the good life.

Socialist medicine.... Saved my life so I could see my two grandkids.
Both born after the VA saved my life.

Vote for someone that did not cut VA funding could be someone's grandfather.

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Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Reply #39)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 05:15 PM

41. What a nice, and inspiring, story. I'm glad I sort of asked.

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Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 01:25 PM

5. K AND R!

 

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Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 01:29 PM

6. hmmm another "5 steps of grief" thread


The talking points are out.

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Response to ibegurpard (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 01:36 PM

8. 7 deadly sins are next.

 

Just wait.

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Response to bunnies (Reply #8)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 05:02 PM

35. I love five of the sins...

Lol!

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Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Reply #35)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 05:10 PM

37. ...

 

Youre bad!

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Response to bunnies (Reply #37)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 05:14 PM

40. I'm so bad you couldn't keep up.....

Thanks. Love ya. You sicko.

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Response to ibegurpard (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 01:45 PM

9. Sick really.

 

The depths they will go.

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Response to ibegurpard (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 03:45 PM

19. any conversation that doesn't tout someone's candidate is TEARING DOWN THE PARTY! OH WOE IS ME!

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Response to ibegurpard (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 05:01 PM

34. Ok...

Give me the talking points
Just be honest, be real, be a democrat.
Convince me of your side of which you make no preference. Or am I just supposed to.......

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Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 01:30 PM

7. Outside of du we are looking like the adults in the room.

 

Of course we still have the rw media to contend with but even they are losing ground to the new media. That has been a big plus for us. The banter you mention on du is truly insignificant. We still have an excellent conversation going on here. I take part in the banter for fun and the more serious conversations for education.

Under this format I see no way around what you are describing unless we go to a fully moderated system with a strong authoritarian bent from the top down. The old du. Unlike politics, the owners of du decided it could be done better without that power structure, and gave up a lot of power. That leaves us where we are. Outright in your face racism would have never stood at the old du. More subversive? Yes. Blatant? No.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 05:22 PM

43. Where do you think this place is at?...,do you like the forum...eom

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Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Reply #43)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 06:57 PM

45. Very much so.

 

I'm actually sorry I didn't make that point in my post. I do like the current format over the previous one. I believe a wider range of opinions are allowed now. I also think the overall purpose to elect democrats is still being served. But during primaries under this format it is going to get a little ugly.

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Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 01:52 PM

10. this thread deserves hundreds of recs

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Response to tishaLA (Reply #10)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 04:18 PM

24. Thx...

Keep up the thougHt.

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Response to tishaLA (Reply #10)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 04:50 PM

32. It's so terribly interesting who is in this thread trying to tear it down or pretend that it's

anything other than a fairly mild call for sanity. Terribly interesting but certainly not surprising.

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Response to Number23 (Reply #32)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 07:31 PM

49. Yes terribly

Simply...

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Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 02:04 PM

12. This is a slap-fight compared to the Great War of 2008 nt

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Response to firebrand80 (Reply #12)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 04:49 PM

31. I really think this is worse...

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Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 02:10 PM

13. You make a lot of sense

I agree with your approach 100%. There's no need for the vitriol, we're all supposed to be on the same side.

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Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 03:09 PM

14. "First as a long time lurker, then I joined."

Same. I use this site as a news filter with the occasional perusal through the comments. Too Much of what I've been seeing is immature and unproductive, schoolyard crap.

I will be voting for the Democratic nominee.

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Response to snort (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 04:25 PM

26. + one

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Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 03:35 PM

15. I will vote for the nominee, they are all excellent

Thank you for your posy

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Response to Happyhippychick (Reply #15)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 04:26 PM

27. Thx

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Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 03:38 PM

16. The issues are being elaborated on

 

And I think the candidates are showing their cards whether they want to or not. Beyond that, it would be alot fairer contention if it were taking place on a level playing field. It's not. We have a team who's bench is crowded with corporate wealth - and a bench that's occupied by folks like myself.
As I keep reminding myself - until the monies are equal, the game cannot be an honest match. And until it becomes an honest match, I'm gonna bitch about it. If that's getting down and dirty, I have no apology.

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Response to Plucketeer (Reply #16)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 04:56 PM

33. The only way the field will be leveled ...

Is when a true revolution takes place.
This may be our only chance.
But bet not.

Keep up the faith.

But until then, ........

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Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 03:39 PM

17. Second the motion!

Also the comment about the schoolyard crap. I also remember that a GREAT many of the most vicious "warriors" of 2008 disappeared soon after the primaries were decided. Gee, what a surprise.

I also have never placed anyone on ignore. Apparently I have been placed in ignore by some. I don't remember who, as I saw it when checking a detail on my profile, and I haven't done that for years. There have probably been others in the meantime. The world hasn't stopped spinning on its axis as a result, so it can't have been too important.

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Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 03:43 PM

18. You must be dog tired!

I like that you spend so much time with your dog. I just got a dog myself (my elderly mom's actually), but my neuropathy prevents long walks which this huge dog LOVES! Maybe you can come to Southeast Texas and walk her for me!

I agree with your post more than you will know!!!!! You should post more often!

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Response to Dustlawyer (Reply #18)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 04:33 PM

29. Never dog tired....

My VA docs love it when I show them the Fitbit stats. Lol.
I can walk all day if left to me, but I do have some responsibilitys. Shit on the world.
You are one that I read. Thank you for your input.
You are a great DU er

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Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 03:53 PM

21. Issues!

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Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 04:36 PM

30. Bravo!



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Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 05:28 PM

44. tl;dr

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Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 07:19 PM

46. I agree 100%. No matter which candidate represents the Democratic party...

I will support that candidate 100%. There is much too much to lose in this election.

Well said N E ! for Tennis!

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Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 07:21 PM

47. Based upon everything I've seen here, I'm not buying it. eom

 

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Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 07:24 PM

48. Well said

Thanks for the post.

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Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 07:51 PM

50. Politics is dirty and nasty.

 

Folks need to stop taking a discussion board so seriously.

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Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Original post)

Thu Nov 12, 2015, 05:44 PM

51. Character and affiliation with democratic factions are issues for some.

can't discuss character without it being personal. Sanders may not think we should talk about character but it matters to some. Objection to character quality kicks in for some before manifestation of Romneyesque pyschopathic pirate capitalism.

can't discuss the factions... progressive vs liberal vs new dem v without expressing what you don't like about the faction, some of that is issues of policy an some of it is issues of philosophy

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