Wed Nov 11, 2015, 02:12 PM
N_E_1 for Tennis (6,746 posts)
To say I'm disappointed is an understatement....
As Democrats we have three excellent candidates.
Just look at the other side. We cajole, we laugh, we are glad that is not our side. But we,here, are turning into them. I will support any candidate the Dems put up. I vote my party. Do I have a thought on who is the better? Of fucking course! Will I slam another's choice? Yes on the fucking issues! Not anything else. We will all be better off if a Democrat wins the election. There's too much at stake. Look at the other side! All this other shit has got to stop. I don't post much, I have been here for a loooong time. First as a long time lurker, then I joined. I come here to get the take on the main issues of our time. But all this shit that is going down here lately is about supporters, not the ever loving issues. Try to get real. I think some people have a fear of change. That ok. Me too. I think some people cannot accept way, way, way differences in political policy, ok! Say that. Face your fears, discuss that, them. Don't disparage other members for their fears. This place now reminds me of the steps of grief. Think and listen. I will never place anyone on ignore, I think it's rude. Just wrong. I need to listen to everyone. Will I agree? Who knows? But slamming people for thier beliefs, just not right, not acceptable. I cannot be here for a great while to respond cuz I kinda got a life outta politics. I need to hike at least five miles a day to keep my fucking dog happy, and I will guess me also Just remember we are all,in this crap together. We will support each other when we need to. I love this site, it has made me a more informed and better person. Let's keep that aspect up.
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N_E_1 for Tennis | Nov 2015 | OP |
CurtEastPoint | Nov 2015 | #1 | |
N_E_1 for Tennis | Nov 2015 | #36 | |
Ron Green | Nov 2015 | #2 | |
CaliforniaPeggy | Nov 2015 | #3 | |
DFW | Nov 2015 | #20 | |
N_E_1 for Tennis | Nov 2015 | #22 | |
Hortensis | Nov 2015 | #4 | |
aidbo | Nov 2015 | #11 | |
Hortensis | Nov 2015 | #28 | |
aidbo | Nov 2015 | #38 | |
Hortensis | Nov 2015 | #42 | |
N_E_1 for Tennis | Nov 2015 | #23 | |
Hortensis | Nov 2015 | #25 | |
N_E_1 for Tennis | Nov 2015 | #39 | |
Hortensis | Nov 2015 | #41 | |
JaneyVee | Nov 2015 | #5 | |
ibegurpard | Nov 2015 | #6 | |
bunnies | Nov 2015 | #8 | |
N_E_1 for Tennis | Nov 2015 | #35 | |
bunnies | Nov 2015 | #37 | |
N_E_1 for Tennis | Nov 2015 | #40 | |
TM99 | Nov 2015 | #9 | |
roguevalley | Nov 2015 | #19 | |
N_E_1 for Tennis | Nov 2015 | #34 | |
NCTraveler | Nov 2015 | #7 | |
N_E_1 for Tennis | Nov 2015 | #43 | |
NCTraveler | Nov 2015 | #45 | |
tishaLA | Nov 2015 | #10 | |
N_E_1 for Tennis | Nov 2015 | #24 | |
Number23 | Nov 2015 | #32 | |
ibegurpard | Nov 2015 | #49 | |
firebrand80 | Nov 2015 | #12 | |
N_E_1 for Tennis | Nov 2015 | #31 | |
Dem2 | Nov 2015 | #13 | |
snort | Nov 2015 | #14 | |
N_E_1 for Tennis | Nov 2015 | #26 | |
Happyhippychick | Nov 2015 | #15 | |
N_E_1 for Tennis | Nov 2015 | #27 | |
Plucketeer | Nov 2015 | #16 | |
N_E_1 for Tennis | Nov 2015 | #33 | |
DFW | Nov 2015 | #17 | |
Dustlawyer | Nov 2015 | #18 | |
N_E_1 for Tennis | Nov 2015 | #29 | |
Dont call me Shirley | Nov 2015 | #21 | |
Tom_Foolery | Nov 2015 | #30 | |
Capt. Obvious | Nov 2015 | #44 | |
DrewFlorida | Nov 2015 | #46 | |
MohRokTah | Nov 2015 | #47 | |
DesertRat | Nov 2015 | #48 | |
bigwillq | Nov 2015 | #50 | |
HereSince1628 | Nov 2015 | #51 |
Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Original post)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 02:19 PM
CurtEastPoint (16,652 posts)
1. THANK YOU! Please! Everyone read and take to heart.
Response to CurtEastPoint (Reply #1)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 06:06 PM
N_E_1 for Tennis (6,746 posts)
36. Thank you CEP...
Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Original post)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 02:22 PM
Ron Green (9,666 posts)
2. Thank you. The issues, the ISSUES, THE ISSUES.
Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Original post)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 02:22 PM
CaliforniaPeggy (142,786 posts)
3. I absolutely agree.
I find the personal crap very upsetting, and childish.
I thought we were better than that........ |
Response to CaliforniaPeggy (Reply #3)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 04:47 PM
DFW (48,238 posts)
20. Take heart: some of us are! Yourself included
It's an unfortunate fact that "get a life" cannot be enforced in a court of law.
Oh, and in case I forgot to mention it, if you don't disavow your preferred candidate and praise mine instead, you're a gun-loving corporate racist money-worshipping socialist oligarch, so there! ![]() |
Response to CaliforniaPeggy (Reply #3)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 05:13 PM
N_E_1 for Tennis (6,746 posts)
22. We are better..
We just need to relax a little bit more. And focus.
Love ya cal peg. |
Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Original post)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 02:25 PM
Hortensis (52,746 posts)
4. I'm guessing we'd all stay better balanced with daily 5-mile hikes.
Response to Hortensis (Reply #4)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 02:55 PM
aidbo (2,328 posts)
11. That is also literally true, walking/hiking exercise improves balance.
Response to aidbo (Reply #11)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 05:31 PM
Hortensis (52,746 posts)
28. Aidbo, thanks for yet another reason I should be
boring myself silly out walking. Falling over while pulling on socks is a new thing, and very irritating.
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Response to Hortensis (Reply #28)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 06:11 PM
aidbo (2,328 posts)
38. Podcasts, local NPR, audiobooks, books on tape.
That's how I get through a long walk. Tougher in the winter though.
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Response to aidbo (Reply #38)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 06:16 PM
Hortensis (52,746 posts)
42. I've been known to read a book, not the safest thing tho. :)
Response to Hortensis (Reply #4)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 05:16 PM
N_E_1 for Tennis (6,746 posts)
23. You have no idea!
Great for the heart and soul.
Five heart attacks and two strokes. Just a reminder of life as it is. |
Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Reply #23)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 05:24 PM
Hortensis (52,746 posts)
25. Goodness. Just as long as they were before and not during.
And preferably someone else's.
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Response to Hortensis (Reply #25)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 06:12 PM
N_E_1 for Tennis (6,746 posts)
39. No all mine...
I take a little pride in that as sick as it may be.
Taken great care of in the VA system and alive to talk about it. I'm 64 and just getting into the good life. Socialist medicine.... Saved my life so I could see my two grandkids. Both born after the VA saved my life. Vote for someone that did not cut VA funding could be someone's grandfather. |
Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Reply #39)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 06:15 PM
Hortensis (52,746 posts)
41. What a nice, and inspiring, story. I'm glad I sort of asked.
Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Original post)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 02:25 PM
JaneyVee (19,877 posts)
5. K AND R!
Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Original post)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 02:29 PM
ibegurpard (16,664 posts)
6. hmmm another "5 steps of grief" thread
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Response to ibegurpard (Reply #6)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 02:36 PM
bunnies (15,859 posts)
8. 7 deadly sins are next.
Just wait.
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Response to bunnies (Reply #8)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 06:02 PM
N_E_1 for Tennis (6,746 posts)
35. I love five of the sins...
Lol!
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Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Reply #35)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 06:10 PM
bunnies (15,859 posts)
37. ...
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Response to bunnies (Reply #37)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 06:14 PM
N_E_1 for Tennis (6,746 posts)
40. I'm so bad you couldn't keep up.....
Thanks. Love ya. You sicko.
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Response to ibegurpard (Reply #6)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 02:45 PM
TM99 (8,352 posts)
9. Sick really.
The depths they will go.
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Response to ibegurpard (Reply #6)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 04:45 PM
roguevalley (40,656 posts)
19. any conversation that doesn't tout someone's candidate is TEARING DOWN THE PARTY! OH WOE IS ME!
Response to ibegurpard (Reply #6)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 06:01 PM
N_E_1 for Tennis (6,746 posts)
34. Ok...
Give me the talking points
Just be honest, be real, be a democrat. Convince me of your side of which you make no preference. Or am I just supposed to....... |
Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Original post)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 02:30 PM
NCTraveler (30,481 posts)
7. Outside of du we are looking like the adults in the room.
Of course we still have the rw media to contend with but even they are losing ground to the new media. That has been a big plus for us. The banter you mention on du is truly insignificant. We still have an excellent conversation going on here. I take part in the banter for fun and the more serious conversations for education.
Under this format I see no way around what you are describing unless we go to a fully moderated system with a strong authoritarian bent from the top down. The old du. Unlike politics, the owners of du decided it could be done better without that power structure, and gave up a lot of power. That leaves us where we are. Outright in your face racism would have never stood at the old du. More subversive? Yes. Blatant? No. |
Response to NCTraveler (Reply #7)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 06:22 PM
N_E_1 for Tennis (6,746 posts)
43. Where do you think this place is at?...,do you like the forum...eom
Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Reply #43)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 07:57 PM
NCTraveler (30,481 posts)
45. Very much so.
I'm actually sorry I didn't make that point in my post. I do like the current format over the previous one. I believe a wider range of opinions are allowed now. I also think the overall purpose to elect democrats is still being served. But during primaries under this format it is going to get a little ugly.
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Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Original post)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 02:52 PM
tishaLA (13,632 posts)
10. this thread deserves hundreds of recs
Response to tishaLA (Reply #10)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 05:18 PM
N_E_1 for Tennis (6,746 posts)
24. Thx...
Keep up the thougHt.
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Response to tishaLA (Reply #10)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 05:50 PM
Number23 (24,544 posts)
32. It's so terribly interesting who is in this thread trying to tear it down or pretend that it's
anything other than a fairly mild call for sanity. Terribly interesting but certainly not surprising.
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Response to Number23 (Reply #32)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 08:31 PM
ibegurpard (16,664 posts)
49. Yes terribly
Simply...
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Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Original post)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 03:04 PM
firebrand80 (2,760 posts)
12. This is a slap-fight compared to the Great War of 2008 nt
Response to firebrand80 (Reply #12)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 05:49 PM
N_E_1 for Tennis (6,746 posts)
31. I really think this is worse...
Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Original post)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 03:10 PM
Dem2 (8,158 posts)
13. You make a lot of sense
I agree with your approach 100%. There's no need for the vitriol, we're all supposed to be on the same side.
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Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Original post)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 04:09 PM
snort (2,334 posts)
14. "First as a long time lurker, then I joined."
Same. I use this site as a news filter with the occasional perusal through the comments. Too Much of what I've been seeing is immature and unproductive, schoolyard crap.
I will be voting for the Democratic nominee. |
Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Original post)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 04:35 PM
Happyhippychick (8,361 posts)
15. I will vote for the nominee, they are all excellent
Thank you for your posy
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Response to Happyhippychick (Reply #15)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 05:26 PM
N_E_1 for Tennis (6,746 posts)
27. Thx
Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Original post)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 04:38 PM
Plucketeer (12,882 posts)
16. The issues are being elaborated on
And I think the candidates are showing their cards whether they want to or not. Beyond that, it would be alot fairer contention if it were taking place on a level playing field. It's not. We have a team who's bench is crowded with corporate wealth - and a bench that's occupied by folks like myself.
As I keep reminding myself - until the monies are equal, the game cannot be an honest match. And until it becomes an honest match, I'm gonna bitch about it. If that's getting down and dirty, I have no apology. |
Response to Plucketeer (Reply #16)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 05:56 PM
N_E_1 for Tennis (6,746 posts)
33. The only way the field will be leveled ...
Is when a true revolution takes place.
This may be our only chance. But bet not. Keep up the faith. But until then, ........ |
Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Original post)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 04:39 PM
DFW (48,238 posts)
17. Second the motion!
Also the comment about the schoolyard crap. I also remember that a GREAT many of the most vicious "warriors" of 2008 disappeared soon after the primaries were decided. Gee, what a surprise.
I also have never placed anyone on ignore. Apparently I have been placed in ignore by some. I don't remember who, as I saw it when checking a detail on my profile, and I haven't done that for years. There have probably been others in the meantime. The world hasn't stopped spinning on its axis as a result, so it can't have been too important. |
Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Original post)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 04:43 PM
Dustlawyer (10,199 posts)
18. You must be dog tired!
I like that you spend so much time with your dog. I just got a dog myself (my elderly mom's actually), but my neuropathy prevents long walks which this huge dog LOVES! Maybe you can come to Southeast Texas and walk her for me!
I agree with your post more than you will know!!!!! You should post more often! |
Response to Dustlawyer (Reply #18)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 05:33 PM
N_E_1 for Tennis (6,746 posts)
29. Never dog tired....
My VA docs love it when I show them the Fitbit stats. Lol.
I can walk all day if left to me, but I do have some responsibilitys. Shit on the world. You are one that I read. Thank you for your input. You are a great DU er |
Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Original post)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 04:53 PM
Dont call me Shirley (10,998 posts)
21. Issues!
Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Original post)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 05:36 PM
Tom_Foolery (4,663 posts)
30. Bravo!
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Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Original post)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 06:28 PM
Capt. Obvious (9,002 posts)
44. tl;dr
Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Original post)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 08:19 PM
DrewFlorida (1,096 posts)
46. I agree 100%. No matter which candidate represents the Democratic party...
I will support that candidate 100%. There is much too much to lose in this election.
Well said N E ! for Tennis! |
Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Original post)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 08:21 PM
MohRokTah (15,429 posts)
47. Based upon everything I've seen here, I'm not buying it. eom
Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Original post)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 08:24 PM
DesertRat (27,992 posts)
48. Well said
Thanks for the post.
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Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Original post)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 08:51 PM
bigwillq (72,790 posts)
50. Politics is dirty and nasty.
Folks need to stop taking a discussion board so seriously.
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Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Original post)
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 06:44 PM
HereSince1628 (36,063 posts)
51. Character and affiliation with democratic factions are issues for some.
can't discuss character without it being personal. Sanders may not think we should talk about character but it matters to some. Objection to character quality kicks in for some before manifestation of Romneyesque pyschopathic pirate capitalism.
can't discuss the factions... progressive vs liberal vs new dem v without expressing what you don't like about the faction, some of that is issues of policy an some of it is issues of philosophy |