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4 Years Ago, Sarah Palin's Convention Speech Won Over the Media (Original Post) Yavin4 Aug 2012 OP
Agreed. Standard veep attack dog bullshit BeyondGeography Aug 2012 #1
x1000 Firebrand Gary Aug 2012 #2
Yeah, didn't they especially like the Cha Aug 2012 #3
The romney ryan campaign couldn't get any more boring if it tried. sadbear Aug 2012 #4
There's been a perspective blackout tonight Floyd_Gondolli Aug 2012 #5
You beat me to it, Yavin PlanetBev Aug 2012 #6
The problem is... regnaD kciN Aug 2012 #7
Read this and remember it the next time you see a poll you don't like BeyondGeography Aug 2012 #8
I agree!!! liberallibral Aug 2012 #9
I think he was more impressed with the crowd's reaction RockaFowler Aug 2012 #12
What's important is that Ryan's speech did NOT win over the media Jim Lane Aug 2012 #10
Palin was much more puffed up in the MSM then Ryan has been. Jennicut Aug 2012 #11

sadbear

(4,340 posts)
4. The romney ryan campaign couldn't get any more boring if it tried.
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 01:05 AM
Aug 2012

Boring speech. Filled with lies. Easily dissected.

By tomorrow, the story will be the lies and nothing else.

 

Floyd_Gondolli

(1,277 posts)
5. There's been a perspective blackout tonight
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 01:07 AM
Aug 2012

Palin briefly knocked the race off its axis in2008. This speech not so much.

PlanetBev

(4,104 posts)
6. You beat me to it, Yavin
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 01:12 AM
Aug 2012

I was about to post the same thing. After I saw Palin's speech at the convention, I freaked out and rolled up like a pill bug for days. It didn't help that the media turned into a circle jerk.

Come Monday, The United States of Amnesia will set in.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
7. The problem is...
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 01:13 AM
Aug 2012

...Palin boosted McCain to a narrow lead, until the September crash put Obama on top for good. Who's to say what might have happened had the economy stayed afloat through November? And we certainly aren't going to get a major event in September that will overturn the entire campaign this time around.

What is most disquieting to me, over the past couple of weeks since Ryan was chosen, is that it seems like the public is lapping up every shameless Republican lie as if it was Gospel truth. Forget the possibility of a convention "bounce" -- with what has happened over the past two weeks (Romney picking an extremist known for trying to eliminate Medicare, the Akin controversy, Romney going birther), the GOP ticket should be UNDERWATER by now. Instead, they not only are hanging close, but they've somehow managed to convince a plurality of the public that they can be trusted more on the economy and, yes, even Medicare! It's utterly astounding to me why they aren't trailing by double digits by now, and, instead, they'll probably have the lead by Friday. I just don't know how we can counter a campaign seemingly based on Joe Isuzu, and a public seemingly determined to lap it up.

 

liberallibral

(272 posts)
9. I agree!!!
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 02:07 AM
Aug 2012

And I was very surprised that Lawrence O'Donnell seemed blown away by the speech, despite the blatant lies...

RockaFowler

(7,429 posts)
12. I think he was more impressed with the crowd's reaction
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 06:24 PM
Aug 2012

I may have been sleeping liatening to him and you may be right, though

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
10. What's important is that Ryan's speech did NOT win over the media
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 05:53 PM
Aug 2012

DU has a plethora of threads citing sources in which Ryan is called to task in the MSM -- in fact, even on Fox News.

Why the difference from the treatment of Palin? Well, one factor is that Ryan's speech was easier to criticize. The MSM do better at countering lies than at pointing out stupidity.

Another factor may be Romney's incredible record of mendacity over the course of the campaign until now. McCain, for all his faults, was comparatively honest. I suspect that Romney's blatant willingness to lie, over and over again, has sensitized the media to the issue, so that his running mate is coming in for more scrutiny than would otherwise be the case.

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
11. Palin was much more puffed up in the MSM then Ryan has been.
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 05:57 PM
Aug 2012

Ryan just is not as charismatic, as much as it pains me to admit that Palin had some kind of charisma. And Romney has contributed nothing to this country. McCain was at least respected for serving in Vietnam. I don't think much of the MSM even really likes Romney. He won't answer many of their questions after all.

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