Killer Mike Says Bernie Sanders Is Like 'An Extension Of Dr. King' - HuffPo

[WillyT]

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Killer Mike Says Bernie Sanders Is Like 'An Extension Of Dr. King'
The two met for soul food at The Busy Bee in Atlanta on Nov. 23rd.
Emily Tess Katz - Associate Editor, HuffPost Live
Posted: 11/24/2015 03:31 PM EST | Edited: 16 minutes ago

<snip>

Killer Mike's feelin' the Bern, and he's not trying to hide it.

In a phone conversation with HuffPost Live on Tuesday, the rapper called Bernie Sanders "an extension of Dr.King," and thus his pick for President in 2016.

He elaborated:

After having a discussion with him yesterday and talking about, in particular, the legacy of Martin Luther King -- You know, when Dr. King died, he died with a set of plans and a goal, <one of which> was... to bring attention to the war machine that was financing the Vietnam War, and the only politician for the last 40, 50 years that's been consistently lined up with King's vision of social justice and people before corporations and the importance of honoring the poor and making sure they can rise above poverty is Bernie Sanders.

The Run The Jewels musician went a step further, declaring the Vermont Senator to be "the truth," and deeming him "honestly what this country needs."

"I am going to give him my full support," he continued. "Because I want my children and grandchildren to enjoy what America is, and not what America's turning into."

Hear Killer Mike say more about why he's supporting Sen. Sanders in the clip above.

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Link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/killer-mike-says-bernie-sanders-is-like-an-extension-of-drking_5654ac45e4b0879a5b0ca6b3

[hootinholler]

1. I wonder what Black Twitter will have to say about this

Even though I'm not sure what Black Twitter is, but I hear all about it from my favorite troll.

[WillyT]

2. I'm Wondering What The Reaction Here Will Be...

[1StrongBlackMan]

13. If you are not sure what Black Twitter is ...

and not curious enough to enter the phrase into a google search bar ... why would you care what Black twitter will have to say?

[JTFrog]

15. 3 guesses and the first two don't count. n/t

[Starry Messenger]

57. Wonder no more:

[bravenak]

3. .

[DemocratSinceBirth]

4. Sister, I believe they are expecting you to follow ...

Like very person of color was wearing one white glove like Michael Jackson...


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> average white guy

[bravenak]

5. Of course. He ate SOUL FOOD with Bernie. I'm sold.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

6. When my I lost my home my gf and I lived with my black friend for six months...

We ate okra, kale, and collard greens but beside that the fare was strictly middle America...

Thanksgiving was great though; turkey, ham, mashed potatoes, collard greens, macaroni and cheese, pumpkin pie.

[bravenak]

7. I eat every green you can think of. Even fucking kale.

I'm cooking for thanksgiving, but the pie is sweet potato, not pumpkin. Yuck.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

8. We are going out for Thanksgiving.

Is it hard to find fresh veggies in Alaska?


They used to have a soul food place in the NOHO Arts District but it closed.

When you come to L A, you, me and my gf can go to South L A to get some bbq. There are some places there on the top ten bbq list.

[bravenak]

106. We can get fresh, just expensive

I'm ready to go to all ten places. My mom is wanting to to to Florida, trying to ruin my plans.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

119. I bet fish is popular there./nt

[bravenak]

120. Yep. I swear people keep bring me that nasty ass salmon for no reason.

[sheshe2]

139. Say what!!?!!@!

I love salmon when I can afford it.

Happy Thanksgiving. My niece is cooking, I am bringing the pumpkin pie.

[betsuni]

146. As a Pacific Northwesterner, I'm deeply offended. Salmon is the SOUL FOOD of my people.

Take it back! RESPECT THE SALMON.

[Skidmore]

10. We do both

pumpkin and sweet potato to keep all bases covered.

[bravenak]

108. I but the pumpkin pie, my husbands famiky eats it.

I make the sweet potato, Alabama style!! I like either crust, graham cracker or regular. Mmmm.

[1StrongBlackMan]

14. Ah Ha ... Busted you! ...

Thanksgiving was great though; turkey, ham, mashed potatoes, collard greens, macaroni and cheese, pumpkin pie.

Pumpkin Pie????

My guess it was sweet potato pie.

[boobooday]

32. I'll never forget bringing a pumpkin pie to my friend's Thanksgiving celebration

Her exact quote:

"Pumpkin pie? Pumpkin pie? Honey that's for white people!"

Nobody ate a bite. Not even me.

[1StrongBlackMan]

34. Back in my middle school days ...

we would have Bake Sales to raise money for school clubs.

For one of the Bake Sales, Momma 1SBM sent me with 3 Sweet Potato pie. Everyone was telling me that that was the best pumpkin pie they had ever eaten ... I had never even HEARD of pumpkin pie!

[boobooday]

37. LOL it was clearly a bit of blasphemy - glad she forgave me

Now I make sure to eat several pieces of both for Thanksgiving!

[bravenak]

109. Love it!

[giftedgirl77]

72. Fried chicken none the less, but they missed the irony in the

whole situation.

[bravenak]

114. Well, I didn't miss it, I laughed and laughed.

[giftedgirl77]

121. I just typed that's fucked up & the normal fanboys asked why...

I refused to dignify it with a response. The fact that it's only trending with white folks on twitter should tell them something.

[bravenak]

122. *snicker*

I better publish a little chapbook and then declare myself for Bernie. Sell a bunch of copies to them and they'll swear I'm Maya Angelou.

[giftedgirl77]

123. Pssshhhaaa, no they wouldn't. They would just tell you how

you are misunderstanding Mya Angelou's writings & then tell you that you should listen to Elizabeth Warren's thoughts on it because she hates Wall Street & understands the working ppl, argle bargle.....

[bravenak]

129. Ha!

[Fawke Em]

130. Except it's not.

Unless you think Shaun King is lying and the people commenting on his thread are all white:

In less than 24 hours after I posted this video of Killer Mike's endorsement of Bernie Sanders in Atlanta yesterday, it has received nearly 2 million views.

https://www.facebook.com/shaunking/videos/950470694991849/

Maybe next time, you'll go find out about something before arguing the opposite.

[druidity33]

135. Who doesn't like fried chicken?

Jeez... you can't blame a guy for ordering the goods right up!

[George II]

75. Well, I'm not SOULd.

[bravenak]

115. .

[Stellar]

36. +1000

[Autumn]

9. I'm gonna sit right here with this

and then I'm gonna have some of this

[WillyT]

11. LOL !!!

[WillyT]

100. Hey Autumn... Would You Mind Scooting Over A Bit ???

It's amazing what happens when you post at the end of your work-day, and then finally make it home.

[Autumn]

101. Come on over here and sit by me Willy.

Plenty of room.

[WillyT]

103. :loveya:

[Autumn]

105. Loveya too Willy

[rhett o rick]

163. Hey what about me?

[Autumn]

164. You know it rhett

[wendylaroux]

12. Hey Willy!!! over here!!

is this picture photo shopped?
Does anyone know?
Bill Clinton loves kale.

[jwirr]

18. Don't know but for those who do not know the other men -

Poppy Bush and George Wallace.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

31. Guilt by association is so fun

[druidity33]

136. I don't see Bernie Sanders in that photo. nt.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

147. A point

[DemocratSinceBirth]

24. Don't quit your ...

Hey Willy!!! over here!!is this picture photo shopped?
Does anyone know?
Bill Clinton loves kale.

Don't quit your day job.

[wendylaroux]

40. Wonder if Hilly was there that day?

do ya reckon she was?
George Wallace,George fucking Wallace.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

42. Your point?

BTW, Ted Kennedy gave him the award:



https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=861&dat=19730402&id=7-9HAAAAIBAJ&sjid=mYAMAAAAIBAJ&pg=5353,262163&hl=en


P.S. Don't quit your day job.

[wendylaroux]

45. You got the shine on you?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

48. What shine, pray tell?

You got the shine on you?
wendylaroux

TOP DEFINITION
shine
A derogitory word for an African American
Hey Tony, Look at all these f ----- shines in here.
by deez-nillas July 11, 2003

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=shine

Shine
(US) a black person (from shoeshiner).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_slurs#CITEREFGreen2005

[Fawke Em]

77. In the way she used it, though, it means to be drunk - as in moonshine.

You call a person, "a shine," which is definitely derogatory, but to "get one's shine on" means to catch a buzz.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

81. Respectfully, I don't accept that explanation.

But It is laudable you came to the assistance of an associate/friend/ally/compadre.


And since we are all speaking cryptically here...Some of the denizens of this board are showing a little too much leg in this thread.

[Fawke Em]

85. Respectfully, there was a recent hit country song about that very thing.

You don't have to accept that explanation, but I'm sure Florida-Georgia Line likes the money they racked in from it:

Strawberry shimmer on hot lips,
Silver buckle hangin' off her hips.
Eyes sparkle when she smiles.
Shinedown on the radio dial.
Homemade jar o' lemon drop, take a sip.
Don't stop girl, you know I love it when you get your shine on!
'Cause you and me be rocking all night long!
Summer sky dripping rhinestones,
Turn your party lights on,
Baby get your shine on - shine on!

Baby get your shine on!

SNIP lyrics

Homemade jar o' lemon drop take a sip.
Don't stop girl, you know I love it when you get your shine on!
'Cause you and me be rocking all night long!
Summer sky drippin' rhinestones,
Turn your party lights on,
Baby get your shine on - shine on!

Baby get your shine on!

(Psst... "lemon drop" is slang for moonshine)

Now, I don't much care for country (I like bluegrass, though), but I do live less than 3 hours from Nashville and have friends who listen to it, so I am aware of some of the songs.

P.S. As a Southerner, I've heard that phrase all my life, but using these lyrics was the easiest way to prove it to you.

[bravenak]

89. Wow

[arcane1]

30. "at a lobster bake at Bush's residence at Kennebunkport, Maine, July 30, 1983."

http://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/george-wallace/13/

[druidity33]

137. What i want to know

is what is Bill drinking there? Looks like a delightful "Ol Milwaukee" style brew. In my region, back in the day, that'd be Stroh's...

[tazkcmo]

153. Diet Pepsi n/t

[LiberalArkie]

33. That is probably around 1983 with Clinton as Gov, Wallace as Gov and Bush as Pres.

[WillyT]

112. Thanks... I Remember That !!!

[Enthusiast]

16. Kicked and recommended!

[MaggieD]

17. I'm still wondering why anyone cares what some two bit rapper thinks

Can you explain? He's not even very popular. Why are we supposed to care what "killer mike" somebody thinks about politics? Should we also ask Honey boo boo and Brittany Spears what they think?

Or am I missing some important reason why we've had 16 frigging threads telling us all what some guy called "killer mike" thinks?

[roguevalley]

20. have a cookie

[arcane1]

21. Keep on playing that role.

Someday you may even be good at it

[NurseJackie]

22. I thought he must have been a boxer or something. "Killer Mike" sounds like a boxer's name.

I thought I was "hip" for recently discovering Adele (who, I'm told, has been popular for years).

[Fawke Em]

23. Two bit rapper?

I guess two-bit rappers win Grammy's these days:

[arcane1]

28. But "He's not even very popular"!!1

[reformist2]

41. If he didn't win a "scientifically conducted" popular rapper poll, he's irrelevant!

[Fawke Em]

51. Is Billboard considered "scientific" enough?

[Fawke Em]

49. LOL!

And Bernie supporters get accused of not understanding black culture.

169,000 + followers on Twitter, 145K on Instagram, a Grammy, a top 10 rap AND R&B album, a Morehouse alum (not a grad, though), but he's a two-bit rapper.

[beam me up scottie]

55. You called it! Post #50, right on schedule!

[AtomicKitten]

46. It's so sweet he gave his Grammy to his grammy.

For those that haven't watch the video, he gave his Grammy to his grandmother because she raised him and wanted him to graduate from college. He didn't do that but wanted her to have a piece of his alternate success, and his grandmother was thrilled. Turns out Killer Mike is a sweetie-pie.

[Fawke Em]

53. Sweet Potato Pie.

[AtomicKitten]

74. mmmm

[1StrongBlackMan]

68. How many grammy's did Kanye West have when DU labeled his music garbage ...

this "He is important because he is Black and supports Bernie" stuff gets dizzying.

[ozone_man]

79. It's about the message.

He understands what Bernie is saying, because its the truth, like Dr. King spoke the truth, and it sounded like Hell to many.

[Fawke Em]

80. Kayne's behavior makes him garbage.

KM is politically active because he cares about his community. West is about himself.

It's not a matter of music.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

87. Hmmmm

Kayne's behavior makes him garbage.
View profile
KM is politically active because he cares about his community. West is about himself.

It's not a matter of music.

Multiple Grammy Award-winning producer/artist Kanye West has already established himself as one of the premier artists in the recording industry, but put away the microphone, bling and neon, and you’ll find a crusader against poverty, hunger and poor education.

In 2005, West and his late mother, Dr. Donda West, co-founded the Dr. Donda West Foundation with the goal of reducing the number of kids who drop out of school. The Foundation’s first initiative, Loop Dreams, challenged at-risk students to learn how to write and produce music while simultaneously improving their academic skills.

“During my high school years, it’s the music that I really felt saved me,” said West, “It kept me out of the streets, it kept me from getting into trouble, it gave me something to do when I got kicked off the basketball team. You just get lost in the music. That’s what I did.”

Through donations, concert proceeds, and his foundation, West has been a vocal and outspoken supporter of broader education issues, and of organizations such as Doctors Without Borders, Human Rights Watch and Oxfam America.

West contributed to a CD compilation benefiting victims of Hurricane Katrina.






Charities & foundations supported
Kanye West has supported the following charities listed on this site:

Common Ground Foundation
Doctors Without Borders
Dr. Donda West Foundation
Food Bank For New York City
GRAMMY Foundation
Habitat For Humanity
Human Rights Watch
LIFEbeat
Live 8
Live Earth
Make It Right
Mission Australia
MusiCares
Oxfam
Red Cross
Robin Hood
Stand Up To Cancer
The Art of Elysium
The Lunchbox Fund

[Fawke Em]

98. That's nice, but doesn't quite make up for his obnoxious behavior. eom

[DemocratSinceBirth]

99. So if a rapper endorse the Vermont senator he become a paragon of virtue

So if a rapper endorses the Vermont senator he become a paragon of virtue but if a rapper endorses Hilary Clinton his behavior becomes suspect...

What about Pharrell? Is he a bad guy, too?

[1StrongBlackMan]

125. He just won't be spoken of. See post #110.

[1StrongBlackMan]

110. None of that matters because this isn't about ...

What either entertainer has done for the community ... and everything to do with a BLACK entertainer, that most of DU had never heard of before he came out for Bernie. And, KM, certainly, wouldn't be a topic of discussion; but for, his being Black and having endorsed Bernie.

And, we both know it.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

118. Hmmmm (REDUX)

(CNN)Music's first family, Mr. and Mrs. Shawn "Jay Z" Carter — that is Jay Z and Beyonce -- have been on quite the philanthropic streak, blurring the distinction between entertainer and saint.

Recent reports -- based on tweets from author, filmmaker and protest organizer Dream Hampton -- suggest the couple may have paid "tens of thousands" of dollars in bail money for those arrested while protesting the pattern of police brutality in Baltimore, specifically the killing of Freddie Gray in mid-April. In addition, the two may have given funds to help expand the "Black Lives Matter" campaign, designed to call attention to the plight of black Americans.


The generosity has even extended abroad. Just recently, Beyoncé paid a visit to Haiti to meet with citizens affected by the devastating 2010 earthquake. Photos from the trip show the singer smiling as she poses with aid workers, tours communities and passes out coloring books to children in the capital city of Port-au-Prince.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/20/opinions/bush-beyonce-jay-z-altruism/

[arcane1]

86. Kanye was praised on DU for his remarks about George Bush after Katrina

But that doesn't automatically equal a like of his music for every DUer.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

27. I have no problem with celebrity endorsements... Good to see everybody get involved.

But I am an old head...My tastes gravitate toward N.W.A, PE, and Digital Underground.

[TM99]

29. He is thug isn't he?

Just some damned black rapper with the gangsta name killer mike right?

You wanna get a little more racist there MaggieD?

He is a rapper. He is quite popular in the underground scene. I would argue that while he may not be as popular as Katy Perry (who loves her some Clinton), he doesn't use autotune, writes his own lyrics, and is a better musician by far.

Now tell me again why we should give a shit about any of Clinton's endorsements?

[Live and Learn]

142. +1000 nt

[beam me up scottie]

35. That "two bit rapper" is a Grammy award winner and a passionate black activist.

Killer Mike Talks Race Relations, Calls For More Minority-Owned Labels at MIT Lecture

About a dozen journalists, college and professional alike in awe of Run The Jewels as per their conversations in the hallway, shuffled in and pulled up chairs still warm from Friday (April 24) classes. Killer Mike was seated, waiting for his pupils by a wall of chalkboards tagged with stray equations, slowly picking at a plate of fresh fruit on his desk.

"You'll have to speak up." A smile clean across his beard, Mike apologized for being hard of hearing. "My ears are shot. I'm a musician."

...

The first question from a student, about the "slave and slave master construct" of the music industry, cut directly to the topic of the visit: race relations in the United States. In turn Mike skipped any small talk, right away setting the tone for his installment of the ongoing MIT Hip Hop Speaker Series. For two-and-a-half hours, in class with the reporters then nearby on a leather couch in an unusually intimate lecture hall, no punches would be pulled or words whispered.

...

A graduate of Morehouse College, the 40-year-old Mike's academic and activist stripes are as impressive as his rap credentials, and of late he's leveraged RTJ's enormous popularity to amplify progressive messages-- lecturing and writing op-eds, attending tonight's White House Correspondents' Dinner, challenging media outside of the hip-hop paradigm.

He grew up the son of a cop in Atlanta church culture, and was trained as a community organizer by civil rights icons; with the current heated climate around issues of police misconduct, he seemed a fitting choice of guest. Not everyone thought so though, and so after finishing his interview with journalists in class, Mike began his larger lecture by addressing a faceless student blogger who protested his appearance ahead of time.

"They asked me not to mention this," Mike told the crowd, adding that "colleges get scared when people write mean shit about the people they bring." Nevertheless, he raised his middle finger for the hater, blasted, "No one gives a damn about your blog," and explained, "I'm here because I'm qualified to be here." As for his purpose in accepting the school's invite: "I'm not here to get you to buy a CD ... I believe in smart people ... The intelligence in this room is the only thing that can save this country."

http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/the-juice/6546027/killer-mike-run-the-jewels-race-relations-minority-owned-labels-mit-hip-hop-speaker-series

And you're comparing him to Honey boo boo and Brittany Spears?

Don't you ever get tired of making a fool of yourself?

[MaggieD]

39. So is Beyoncé who supports Clinton

But I don't see 16 different posts about it here. What is your point?

[beam me up scottie]

43. The point is you just compared a man who lectured at MIT to Honey boo boo and Brittney Spears.

The people you referred to are shallow celebrities, Mike is a political activist who uses his music to fight for social justice.

The fact that you don't know the difference speaks volumes about you.

Like I said, some folks never get tired of making fools of themselves.

[MaggieD]

50. He's not even a popular artist

And he has not won a Grammy either.

[beam me up scottie]

52. "And he has not won a Grammy either." Are you fucking serious?

Eminem, Nelly, Outkast & Killer Mike Win Grammy’s


Keep digging, looking more and more foolish with every post...

[arcane1]

56. When one's job is to counter everything, eventually one ends up looking stupid.

Again and again

[beam me up scottie]

58. Indeed, she never disappoints. EVER.

But we do need someone to bring the entertainment and I do love clowns.

I am convinced this is performance art.

Or a poe.

[MaggieD]

59. Yes OUTKAST

Now we've all heard of Eminem, Nelly, and Outkast, and in fact my iPhone sitting right next to me has lots of music from each. But your "killer Mike" dude glommed a Grammy off of singing on one song with those very accomplished artists 13 years ago.

LMAO! Not impressed.

[beam me up scottie]

61. Keep digging that hole, Mags. And holla when you get to the other side.

We'll send someone to get you, honest.

[TM99]

63. You are too fucking much.

Just keep digging yourself deeper and deeper.

[TM99]

54. Damn you just can't help yourself, can you?

Yes, he has won a Grammy.

http://www.allmusic.com/artist/killer-mike-mn0000771261/awards

He has also had 4 top 10 singles on various charts.

[MaggieD]

64. LOL!

Yeah, and a good friend of mine "won" an Emmy because she is a video editor on a show that won one. But nobody knows who she is or gives a shit what she thinks about Bernie (and it ain't good).

But any port in a storm I guess.

[TM99]

66. Set a goal post....move a goal post.

Your fucking back must hurt after all of these. I hope the pay is good.

[Romulox]

44. Killer Mike is a social activist with highly political lyrics. Beyonce is not. nt

[MaggieD]

47. If he's so active how come no one has ever heard of him in politics?

[TM99]

60. You don't know shit about AA culture

and you have the audacity to lecture Sanders supporters.

http://www.alternet.org/story/155338/killer_mike%2C_venerable_rapper_activist%2C_talks_new_album%2C_drug_war%2C_and_maybe_running_for_office/

Killer Mike is a venerable force. Atlanta's self-described "Pan-Africanist Gangster Rapper, Civic Leader, and Activist" has embarked on a career you could tell your kids about: 12 years of cultural and artistic influence that began with his cohorts in OutKast and propelled through five classic albums, as well as a parallel life as a community leader who's just as regularly called upon by Sharpton's National Action Network as he is by hip-hop radio personalities. With his distinct, gritty-warm tenor and triple-time Southern rap style, he hovers in the top tier of hip-hop artistry, handily linking the day-to-day of the streets with larger sociopolitical issues and the knowledge that they're never separate. He may deploy a lot of adjectives about himself, but most simply, he's a truth-teller.

This 'two bit' Gen X rapper was speaking out about Martin and Davis before BLM was even a thing.

Just because you are ignorant, don't pretend that everyone else is.

[MaggieD]

69. LOL - so he's the most important endorsement in this history of DU!!1!!

Or you'd think so considering how many threads you've started about him.

[Fawke Em]

84. The video has gone viral.

It's not the most important endorsement on DU, but it's certainly an important one to young people and black people.

Heck, what's important on DU is rarely important in the real world - like landline polls that include mostly 55 year olds.

[MaggieD]

92. It's comical

I will say that.

[pangaia]

67. When are you going to realize you are making a fool of yourself?

Really..... I mean. It's ok. I don't mean to criticize you at all, but you might want to cut bait.

[MaggieD]

71. Some people are making fools of themselves

But it ain't me.

[beam me up scottie]

73. You: "And he has not won a Grammy either."

Everyone else:

[MaggieD]

93. LOL - you can give him credit for a Grammy if you want

But it was actually Outkast that won the Grammy. 13 years ago. But you can go all gaga over it if it makes you feel better. No problem.

[beam me up scottie]

95. I don't care about the Grammy, I care about mocking an intelligent man who gives a shit.

You had no fucking clue who he was and when you found out you still dismissed his accomplishments without a second thought simply because he endorsed Bernie.

That kind of shallow thinking and pettiness makes this forum suck.

You have once again shown your true colours.

[TM99]

97. That Grammy is as much his as theirs.

That is kind of how it works with a Grammy for a duo/group.

We are discussing his Grammy because you dismissed him as a two bit rapper. Now you want to dismiss this. Keep doubling down MaggieD!

[MaggieD]

102. Okey dokey

You're right - dude is world famous and frequently mobbed like he was a Beatle or something.

[bravenak]

111. He allright. Good Rapper.

I loves me some Outcast...

[MaggieD]

124. I checked him out

I honestly don't think he's that good. Too many f's and n's and violence. Not my thing. Love Outkast too.

[bravenak]

128. I love f's and n's in my music, lol.

Some like him, some don't.

I do not see why we must be excited, or else! Rather senseless.

[TM99]

113. Condescension and snark

which means a shallow mind and a pandering soul.

[tammywammy]

96. Actually it's you.

It's okay to admit you're wrong, like with the Grammy thing. You may not know who Killer Mike is, but that means you should have googled before posting.

[Fawke Em]

83. Ironically, I know more about his politics than his music.

But maybe us dumb Southerners don't count.

http://www.bustle.com/articles/125728-rapper-killer-mike-has-a-political-history-way-beyond-endorsing-bernie-sanders-for-president

[Fawke Em]

90. Thanks for that.

I didn't think he'd actually graduated from Morehouse, although I knew he'd attended. I thought he left before graduating to start his music career.

Either way - he's not some "two-bit" anything.

[beam me up scottie]

91. No he isn't.

I don't care about celebrity endorsements but coming from this guy it's a big deal.

[Crystalite]

104. Looks like Mike struck a nerve.

I'm loving it.

[WillyT]

116. + 1,000,000,000 - What You Said !!!

[beam me up scottie]

148. He sure did. They're yowling like crazy because...reasons.

[1StrongBlackMan]

62. Because he is Black ... silly! n/t

[MaggieD]

65. Ohhhhh

Dang, you're right. LOL!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

70. I ain't going to be a hypocrite. I like celebrity endorsements.

However when Kayne, Beyonce, Snoop Dog, and Pharrell endorsed Hillary some folks here pitched a fit when I posted the endorsements.

[1StrongBlackMan]

78. That because ... well ... you know ...

One candidate doesn't seem to have a problem attracting Black folks ... while another, well ... you know.

[Fawke Em]

127. Nope.

By Shaun King

In great part, that's why having a guy like Bernie Sanders win over the endorsement of Killer Mike actually resonates deeply with hip hop heads around the country. Mike is not the type of dude who throws these endorsements out every election year, but it's actually deeper than that. Killer Mike's endorsement of Bernie Sanders was impassioned, well-reasoned, purposeful, and realistic.

SNIP

While conventional wisdom may hold that an endorsement from rappers with singles currently in the top 10 would hold more value, I reject that. By in large, folk don't care what Drake or Future think about politics, but Killer Mike has built real credibility in the activism space and his endorsement mattered. Will it move the needle? It's hard to say, but for a lot of people who love hip hop, the full throttle endorsement Mike gave might just loosen the lid on Bernie's jar a little.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/shaun-king-killer-mike-bernie-sanders-endorsement-matters-article-1.2445771?cid=bitly

[1StrongBlackMan]

132. So it has nothing to do with KM being Black ...

despite what Shaun King says? Who would King be talking about when he references KM's "audience"?

Sell that crap somewhere else.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

149. Pharrell, Beyonce, Snoop, Kayne, and Jay Z have endorsed Hillary Clinton...

Some of the denizens of this board have told me all those artists are defective in one way or another. I will let readers make their own inferences.

[1StrongBlackMan]

151. All of whom are DOING far more for "the/their community" than KM ...

I might add.

I'll say it again ... I doubt, any of these KM fans, even knew who he was before he came out for Bernie; and, but for, his being Black, he wouldn't appear on these pages.

But that's nothing new.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

152. Here is what puzzles me...

I see names like Killer Mike, Shaun King , and DeRay McKesson. I know they are committed activists, the former of whom is also an artist, and should be lauded for their activism.

What I find interesting is the suggestion by some here because they feel a certain way on this issue or that issue that every member of their community has to feel the exact same way...

I doubt every white person sees the world through the lens of Bruce Springsteen, Bob Dylan, and Eminem...I don't...For starters I am not a one percenter.

[left lowrider]

107. First of all it was a really great speach

Spoke directly to people who recognize that they have been sold a bill of goods. If you don't recognize that, it may not resonate with you.

He happens to be a musician. . . but he made some astute political observations and articulated like few people have been able to.

[WillyT]

117. + 1,000,000,000 - What You Said !!!

And I wonder how many critics here have actually watched it.

[BklnDem75]

138. I'll be honest with you...

I follow rap and r&b and I had to look this dude up on Wikipedia.

[WillyT]

140. "Two Bit Rapper"...And I'm The Racist...

[treestar]

155. It's the best Bernie can do

He can't find a black legislator or mayor or elected official who is behind him.

[MissDeeds]

19. K&R

Love it!

[Jack Rabbit]

25. K/R

[noiretextatique]

26. but his supporters were mean to two black women

who cares about social AND economic justice, like dr. king did anyway...especially when sanders supporters are so mean and racist

[Romulox]

38. Hey, but some white guy likes okra. Isn't that more interesting than what Big Mike had to say? nt

[ibegurpard]

76. I'll leave that to the African American community to say

But I must say I'm enjoying the thought of all the white "advocates" for people of color on DU having to bite their tongues on this one.

[Truprogressive85]

82. K&R

The subtle racsim im seeing this digusting

Killer Mike is no thug ,he is an artist,activist so anyone trying to dismiss him is damn fool

If people know nothing about hip hop please stfu!!
Espically about Atlanta hip hop

[arcane1]

88. "Hate on Bernie because AA's don't like him. If one does, hate on them instead"

That seems to be the rallying cry.

[TM99]

94. Exactly!

And frankly it is not very subtle racism either.

Atlanta is huge for hip hop, and Killer Mike is but one of the greats from this awesome southern city.

One poster in this thread is just doubling down on the racist bullshit.

[polly7]

131. The racism isn't so subtle ....

"an outspoken social activist focusing on subjects including social equality, police brutality, and systemic racism.[23] His views are reflected in his music, as well as in interviews with the media." - why on earth would anyone be trying to dismiss him, it makes no sense?

Strange responses to what seems like an endorsement from a good man, from the little I know of him, anyway.

[Number23]

126. I did a Google on how many posts there were on DU about Killer Mike before he endorsed Sanders

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And you know who was one of the few groups talking about this brother? HoF! And none other than the fabulous redqueen to boot.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1255&pid=27084

Beyond that, there was precious little said on this whole web site about this little known rapper. None of the people who are just overjoyed and practically braying at the moon over this endorsement were talking about this dude even a year ago. And Lord knows he has never once been subject of conversation in the AA forum or in the AAIG on DU2 though we talk endlessly about politics and hip hop and even Atlanta from time to time in that forum.

So I hope that he is enjoying all of his new fans who I have no doubt will be as supportive of his music as they are of his choice of candidate.

[WillyT]

133. Try These Search Parameters: Benie Sanders + Killer Mike:

Link: https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=bernie+sanders+killer+mike&tbm=nws

[Number23]

134. What part of "I am interested if DU was even the slightest bit interested in Killer Mike, his

music or his political beliefs BEFORE he endorsed Bernie Sanders" is tripping you up?

[Major Hogwash]

143. The source of this article is HuffPo.

So, your comments are moot.

Nevertheless, until around 2006 or 2007 I had never heard of Rand Paul, the son of Ron Paul.

So, there's that.

[Number23]

144. How adorable.

The point is all of the braying and high fiving over someone as though their endorsement is so critically important when they have barely garnered 10 lines of text on this web site in the entire of its existence prior to their endorsement of Sanders.

This is not someone that anyone has designated a great thinker or activist or possessed any substantive status in the black community -- until they endorsed Sanders. This is not anyone that anyone seemed to have barely any interest in at all -- until they endorsed Sanders. And now all of a sudden this is the biggest thing that's happened the entire campaign and it's huggh!!11 Seriesly!!!11one. Right.

And wtf the Rand Paul comment has to do with anything even resembling this conversation is something I'll just leave you to chew on. You obviously think that's an important and relevant point. Glad someone does.

So, there's that.

[Major Hogwash]

161. Sister Souljah wasn't well-known until Bill Clinton dissed her publicly.

I had never heard of her before that all happened.

Sister Souljah (born Lisa Williamson, 1964) is an American hip hop-generation author, activist, recording artist, and film producer. She gained prominence for Bill Clinton's criticism of her remarks about race in the United States during the 1992 presidential campaign. Clinton's well-known repudiation of her comments led to what is now known in politics as a Sister Souljah moment.

Souljah was the executive director of Daddy's House Social Programs Inc., a non-profit corporation for urban youth, financed by Sean Combs and Bad Boy Entertainment.

Link ---
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sister_Souljah

As for your comment about Killer Mike --

This is not someone that anyone has designated a great thinker or activist or possessed any substantive status in the black community . . .

Well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.


I mentioned Rand Paul because he wasn't famous for doing a damned thing on the national scene until 2008 or so.
Also, so I could say "Fuck Rand Paul".

[Number23]

167. She was well known in the black community though.

And even the articles from black people reporting on or even SUPPORTING Killer Mike's endorsement make it very clear that they know he is not well known, even as a rapper making it no reach whatsoever to conclude that he would not be well known as anything else either.

[TM99]

145. You do know it is possible

for people to like, respect, and follow someone like Killer Mike and not mention him on the bastion of all things Democratic that is DU.

I do a lot of shit, experience a lot of shit, and know a lot of shit that I rarely talk about on DU until.....yes.....it fucking becomes relevant.

So thanks for the lecture.....

[Number23]

168. I can tell you know alot of "shit," honey.

Lots and lots of it. That's been pretty well established by every thinking person on this board. But thanks for the crudely worded, completely pointless, and beyond unnecessary little reminder.

This little nugget of nothing from you will go with all of the countless others you've flung all over this board.

[TM99]

169. And thank you for another

wonderful example of your arrogant condescension.

[Number23]

171. I can see why you get along so with the crowd that you do. You have adopted their laughable tactics

to a freaking T.

YOU initiated this conversation with your WELL established and WELL known unprovoked and needless aggression. And then when I respond in kind, I get the "waaahh! Arrogant condescension!11" (though props for spelling both words correctly) as though everyone reading this thread won't see how needlessly nasty you were when you responded to me and STARTED this incredibly pointless exchange.

You are one of a growing group whose posts I have no interest in. I do not even read what you post and would certainly never respond to your posts. Please do us both the immense favor of not responding to mine.

[WillyT]

141. Kick !!!

[BootinUp]

150. I'll take "Utterances of a candidates supporter when down by 60%" Alex nt

[treestar]

154. That's pretty extreme

It's not good that Bernie cannot find a legislator from Georgia as his mentor / spokesman rather than a rapper.

[WillyT]

156. Something Wrong With Rappers ???

[treestar]

157. No, that is an unfair suggestion

but they are less impressive in the context of running for President than the local politicians in a state.

[WillyT]

159. Well Yeah, For Political Nerds Like Us... But...

What would get more attention...

A political rally with Bruce Springsteen, Taylor Swift, & Beyonce, or...

One with Doris Matsui, Alan Grayson, & Terry McCauliff ???



Just Sayin...

[TM99]

170. He makes them uncomfortable.

[arcane1]

162. His "mentor"?

Looks to me like he's a guy that gave an introductory speech, not offering classes

[sabrina 1]

158. The man knows his history. He knows that Economic Equality, which some people

seem to think isn't important for AAs, is a vital part of empowering people who have no power, as did MLK.

I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would deny that.

But it was obvious that it was simply a desperate attempt to dismiss Sanders' excellent Civil Rights record.

[Crystalite]

160. That distinction is often used as a bludgeon.

It's as if to say that economic disenfranchise isn't a problem when, in fact, it's a huge problem and it's at least in the top three of the ways that POC are kept powerless.

The reality is that it's the problem that unites POC and the working poor and immigrants and the rest of us who aren't in the inner circle.

Killer Mike "gets it", and that's threatening to the folks who want to control the message.

Thus, Mike is getting disrespected (but somehow the Kardashian's endorsement of HRC is meaningful).

[rhett o rick]

166. You make some good points. I doubt the sincerity of those that ignore the importance of

economic justice to racial justice. You can't be free if you are starving. I think some people like to use a cause to be able to bully others that they label as enemies of their cause. Self-righteous bullying. They don't realize or more likely don't care that they are doing more damage than good for their cause.

"Killer Mike "gets it", and that's threatening to the folks who want to control the message. " Exactly.

[Eric J in MN]

165. Sweden got praise from both MLK and Bernie Sanders

...for its healthcare and equality.

[WillyT]

172. Kick !!!

[WillyT]

173. Kick !!!