Hillary Clinton: Elitist, Imperialist, Politician Extraordinaire

[Cheese Sandwich]

The Democratic Party continues its illicit love affair with presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, when asked about then Senator Clinton’s vote authorizing President George Bush’s disastrous and murderous invasion of Iraq, said this: “Elections are about the future. They’re not about what happened 13 years ago. They’re about the future, and that’s really what people want to hear.” Yes, this is the same Mrs. Pelosi who took the possibility of the impeachment of Mr. Bush ‘off the table’, because the evidence wasn’t there, she said, and she apparently had no interest in looking for it. So, as with Mr. Bush, with Mrs. Clinton we need not look at what she’s actually done, only at what she says she will do in the future. One is reminded of the abusive husband who, during the remorse stage, swears that he’ll never again strike his wife. No need to look at a long pattern of abuse; simply take his word that there will be no more.

Unfortunately, we must, as voters and potential victims of a Hillary Clinton presidency, look back, forward and to the present. And it is that alarming present, put in context by the not-too-distant past, that should give everyone pause.

Mrs. Clinton either has, or is expected to raise, upwards of $2 billion dollars to purchase a four-year lease to the White House. She might wish the public to believe that hard-working United States citizens, toiling at the shop or office every day, are scraping together $5.00 and $10.00 donations, all of which, in total, achieves that $2 billion. However, such is not the case. Mrs. Clinton’s presidential campaign is being financed by the same organizations that fund her and her husband’s charitable organization, and that list includes at least 118 individuals and companies that lobbied the State Department when Mrs. Clinton was Secretary of State. A look at some of them is more than a little interesting. Because the list is so extensive, we will just show oil companies and defense contractors. This list shows companies in those categories that both donated to the Clinton foundation (along with the amount given), and lobbied the State Department.

Defense Contractors:

* Boeing: between $1 million and $5 million.

* Lockheed Martin: between $100,000 and $300,000.

Oil Companies

* Duke Energy Corporation: between $1 million and $5 million

* ExxonMobil: between $1 million and $5 million.

* Chevron: between $500,00 and $1 million

* Noble Energy: between $200,000 and $500.00.

* Hess Corporation: between $100,000 and $250,000.

And, as a bonus, the top three contributors:

* Microsoft/Gates Foundation: at least $26 million

* Walmart: between $2 million and $11 million.

* Coca-Cola: between $5million and $10 million.

When looking at this list, Mrs. Clinton’s vote in 2002 authorizing Mr. Bush to invade oil-rich Iraq is not terribly surprising.

What do we learn from this list? Perhaps it is obvious that few people, and certainly not the intelligent, savvy and crafty Mrs. Clinton, will bite the hands that so generously feed them. We must also speculate on what commitments and promises the illustrious Mrs. Clinton has made to her very generous benefactors. As a senator, she was in a position to introduce, co-sponsor and vote for laws favorable to them. As Secretary of State, she could lobby governments around the world for such laws. One can only imagine the power she would wield as president of the United States to benefit those who helped her purchase that office.
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more: http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/05/01/hillary-clinton-elitist-imperialist-politician-extraordinaire/

[marym625]

1. K&R!

Excellent article!

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

2. Of course, all those nice corporations are investing..er..donating without an expectation

of anything in return.

As we are told by the corporations and the candidate herself.

[Cheese Sandwich]

6. I was told right here on DU that they pay like this because she is just a really great speaker

Some people will believe anything I guess

[dogknob]

3. Our first woman President: completely owned by zillionaire men.

We can do better than that.

[99Forever]

4. K&R

Excellent read. Thanks

[bvar22]

5. "Politician Extraordinaire"???!!!

NO.
Triangulator Extraordinaire....always moving Right and calling it "compromise".

[Cheese Sandwich]

63. Pretty much drifting to the right every year on some issues...

Twisting in the wind on the other issues.

[hedda_foil]

7. that includes at least 118 individuals and companies that's lobbied the State Department....

[Font size="18"]Mrs. Clinton’s presidential campaign is being financed by the same organizations that fund her and her husband’s charitable organization, and that includes at least 118 individuals and companies that's lobbied the State Department when Mrs. Clinton was Secretary of State. [/font]

A look at some of them is more than a little interesting. Because the list is so extensive, we will just show oil companies and defense contractors. This list shows companies in those categories that both donated to the Clinton foundation (along with the amount given), and lobbied the State Department.

[Cheese Sandwich]

8. Major conflict of interest.

The ultimate revolving door.

[leftofcool]

9. I am voting for HRC. Thank you for info that has been posted about 1000 times

[George II]

11. And almost all of it false, I might add.

[chervilant]

13. Really?

Which of those corporate donors should not be on the list? Are the amounts noted incorrect? If the donor list is correct, how then do you find falsehoods in this report?

[EvolveOrConvolve]

20. Saying it's false isn't the same as providing proof against its veracity

Do have anything other than a 1-liner post to rebut the OP?

[George II]

22. I think it would be incumbent upon the person who posted that stuff to provide "proof", don't you?

[beam me up scottie]

32. No, you made the claim so it's your responsibility to back it up.

[upaloopa]

52. No it is up to the person who posts to prove

Cheap way to run a campaign. Pull shit out of your ass then say we have to prove it came out of your ass.
It isn't worth anyone's time to give you credence.

[A Simple Game]

12. I don't blame you for supporting Hillary. She has said time and time again that

she will take the money out of politics and I believe her. Well, she probably won't do it until after she gets re-elected in 2020, need that campaign money to thwart the "vast right wing conspiracy" and everything you know. But she will do it, I have no doubts. Well maybe not until 2023 just before she leaves office so the people that give those huge campaign donations will then have extra money to pay for her, and Bill's, speeches.

But she'll do it, don't you worry about that.

Unless... do you think Chelsea may decide to run for President?

[Floyd Steinberg]

34. Vote for whoever you wishes

Just remembe, Clintons favorable numbers are still underwater at 57% unfavorable and rising again.

[artislife]

38. Lolz...

Embrace her!!

Maybe more she will sell out to more and make her even more desirable in the eyes of her supporters!

[jalan48]

10. The .1%, covering all bases.

[NotHardly]

14. Stupid thread. What is wrong with you all? Secretly republican???

No seriously, it is a race between Democrats and Republicans ... spewing another Democrat just lets the repugs off pretty damn easy.

[SCantiGOP]

16. Right, nothardly

Very tiresome and annoying post

[MissDeeds]

19. If you're not part of the solution

you're part of the problem. I think you've revealed yourself to be part of the latter.

[AlbertCat]

24. No seriously, it is a race between Democrats and Republicans

No seriously...it isn't.


It is the primaries.

Y'see... we have these things called "primaries" so as to chose a candidate who THEN goes on to a race between Democrats and Republicans.

And we have not chosen a candidate to do that, because the primaries are not over.

[artislife]

39. It is Hillary who is acting more like republicans than the OP poster.

We want the best, not the more over sold candidate.

[tazkcmo]

48. Not a secret Reublican.

And right now, not a race between Democrats and Republicans. That's the GE. I know it's hard to realize that we are currently in a battle for the Democratic nomination when your preferred candidate was supposed to be anointed by now but first you'll need to convince the millions of non Sec. Clinton supports to become one instead of becoming a Sanders supporter.

The GOP doesn't need to come to DU to get ammunition against her. All they need to do is watch her.

[SoapBox]

15. K & R!

The thought of Clintons in the White House again...ugh.

[redstateblues]

29. Agreed. Another 8 years of peace and prosperity

Would be awful

[Floyd Steinberg]

35. And we got fucked long term

After the Clintons repealed the Glass-Steadman and didnt do shit to deal with the impeding dot.com bust that put a lot of people out of work

[cantbeserious]

18. The 1% Serving The 1%

eom

[MissDeeds]

21. Excellent post, Cheese Sandwich

K&R

[baldguy]

23. Whenever I see one of these screeds

I wonder which RW shit factory is paying for it.

The entire point isn't to get people to vote for "better" candidates - however that's measured. The only objective is to keep people from voting at all. Who do you think benefits from that?

[AlbertCat]

25. The only objective is to keep people from voting at all.

Nonsense.

There are others one can vote for besides Hillary.

[baldguy]

28. Sure they could. But they won't.

40% of eligible voters don't vote. And shit like the article in the OP gives them no reason to vote at all. All they see is a supposedly left-leaning somebody bemoaning the possibility that a leading Democrat is no better that a Republican. For the disinterested, un-involved non-voter, all it says is "Don't bother. There's nothing you can do to change things. Stay home on Election Day."

This doesn't help anyone we need - including Bernie. The only people who benefit are Republicans, and everyone else suffers.

[Cheese Sandwich]

37. Got it. Being an elitist imperialist corporate collaborator is not a problem...

But speaking about that on a web forum is a problem. Liberal logic.

[baldguy]

42. The problem is thinking that attacking our allies with lies is a solution.

[Cheese Sandwich]

44. I don't really see Mrs. Clinton as an ally. Also not seeing the lies.

[baldguy]

45. Hence the word "problem".

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The RW is well versed in the strategy of divide & conquer. You're doing their work for them.

We're standing on a precipice, facing barbarians who seek to push civilization off into the abyss. Today, at this time in history, the Democratic Party is the last, best hope to prevent that from happening.

Too many who claim to be progressives think that tearing down the Democratic Party is somehow a reasonable & constructive thing to do when facing barbarians. Ask the bickering liberals in 1930's Weimar Germany how that turned out.

[Cheese Sandwich]

46. Speaking of Hitler,

I don't really see it that way. To me it seems like you are the one doing the work for the right wing because you are defending Mrs Clinton from primary challengers. To me it seems like the Democratic Party establishment has already been taken over by the "barbarians", the word you used. And people like Clinton are actually doing the work for the right wing by protecting the corporate capitalist system from popular challenges.

[tazkcmo]

51. That didn't take long.

Now that you've used Hitler, I'm sure Stalin will be next.

You're preaching Party Loyalty and that smacks more of the Nazi movement and the Communist Revolution that anything her opponents (And yes, during the primaries that includes Democrats) are doing.

The GOP doesn't need or want our help. Sec. Clinton provides all the fodder they need all on her own.

[baldguy]

61. That didn't take long.

Now that you've tossed out reading comprehension skills & appropriate interpretation of historical metaphors, you can claim anything.

Unfortunately for you, Godwin isn't simply pointing out that the Nazis may not have ever gained power if the SDP, the Trade Unionists and Communists in '30s Weimar Germany had engaged in the slightest bit of the party unity (the very thing that you so disparage), instead of constantly attacking one another,

No matter what RW lies your ill-informed, disingenuous imagination may make you spew out, Hillary Clinton isn't Adolf Hitler - but Donald Trump may very well be.

[tazkcmo]

50. Home run.

She's not on my side. She makes shit up like sniper fire. She skirts the edges of accountability and creates impressions of impropriety, legal or not. She loves to talk tough about using our military against legitimate governments. She backed regime change in Libya, Syria and Honduras. She plays the gender card and 9/11 card.

[artislife]

40. The point is to not settle. There is no need to roll over. nt

[RandySF]

26. I can't wait

until the primaries get here and Hillary mops the floor with your guy from South Carolina to California.

[Cheese Sandwich]

31. U mad bro?

[tazkcmo]

53. And then?

I CAN wait till her GOP opponent smothers her in her own missteps, lies, flip flopping and evolving that she's exhibited for the last 25 years. Zero cross over appeal. Zero appeal to disaffected voters. Zero appeal to millennials. Very little appeal to Independents and barely a majority of her own party (so far).

[RandySF]

55. Therein we finally see the Sanders supporters' true colors.

They'd rather see a Republican than a Democrat who is not Bernie (not that he ever was one until now).

[tazkcmo]

58. Horse hockey.

Better go was your hands after pulling that one out of your ass.

[Wolf Frankula]

27. So You'd Rather Have Trump T. Trump

Or Monkey Bush's little brother, or Ted Cruz.

Reality doesn't matter. Like other Social Justice Wankers, you want a candidate who makes you feel good about yourself.

Tell me Naderoids. Do you still think there's no difference between Al Gore and George W. Bush?

I will vote for the Democratic Nominee. He or She is bound to be better than ANYBODY the Rethugs can come up with.

Wolf

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[artislife]

41. No, we would rather have Bernie Sanders. The primary hasn't even started. nt

[riversedge]

56. Posting smears of a Democratic candidate is helping the RW--and you know that.

[artislife]

64. Posting facts or opinions are not smears

She is not a sacred icon, no matter how much you all love her. She is to be tested.

[Cheese Sandwich]

68. There have to be consequences for politicians who do shitty things

[Cheese Sandwich]

69. LOL Naderoids

Good one.

[Thinkingabout]

30. Thank you for the nice kind words, she is everything, also include smart,

Able, experienced, knowledgeable, kind hearted, charitable, a great speaker, a former first lady of Arkansas, first lady of the US, a senator, secretary of state, grandmother and running for president of the USA.

[Cheese Sandwich]

36. I'm just not feeling it.

[Thinkingabout]

43. In time, in time it will come.

[tazkcmo]

54. Just like the flu. n/t

[Thinkingabout]

59. Yes, the bern has to run its course and then recovery.

[cheapdate]

47. Is this news to anyone anymore?

Are there people here who haven't yet seen the list of major donors to the Clinton Foundation? It's been in the news for a long time. Republicans were grumbling about it last Spring.

Oh well.

[riversedge]

57. Posting Hillary smear jobs is a joy for many.

[Cheese Sandwich]

60. It's not really a smear job if it's relevant and factual info mixed with some opinions

[cheapdate]

62. It's often referred to as negative campaigning.

That is, arguing why one shouldn't vote for a particular candidate, rather than why one should vote for another.

[Cheese Sandwich]

66. I see what you mean

For me it's not really campaigning but just posting on web forums.

[cheapdate]

67. True.

[The Blue Traveller]

65. Kicked and highly recommended read

[olddots]

70. the truth can't be alerted on