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riversedge

(70,190 posts)
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 01:47 PM Nov 2015

Hillary Clinton’s campaign made a move that shows how far ahead of her rivals she is





http://www.businessinsider.com/hillary-clinton-latina-voters-2015-11

Hillary Clinton’s campaign made a move that shows how far ahead of her rivals she is


Maxwell Tani

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hillary clinton latinos REUTERS/Mike BlakeHillary Clinton directs a group picture with students and teachers after taking part in a roundtable of young Nevadans discussing immigration.



With less than a year to go until the general election, Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton isn't wasting any time courting a small but influential group of voters: Latinas.



At Clinton's headquarters on the 11th floor of a high-rise in downtown Brooklyn on Monday, a small group of Latina supporters worked the phones.

Their mission: Invite Latinas in Colorado, a key swing state with a rising Hispanic population, to the former secretary of state's speech at a Colorado high school on Tuesday.

What's essentially a small effort with the temporary goal of filling a high school with supportive Latina voters is part of a larger strategy by the campaign. It hopes to woo a growing demographic that the Clinton campaign feels it can not only decisively win over in the primary and general elections, but will also help Clinton clinch key swing states in the general.

Last weekend, the campaign held a multiday strategy session aimed laying the groundwork for projects to increase turnout among Latina voters, who the campaign believes will identify with Clinton's platform........................


....................

The campaign is already working with an impressive — and growing — roster of high-profile local campaign surrogates. The list includes former Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, brothers Rep. Joaquin Castro (D-Texas) and Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Julian Castro, and New York City Council Speaker Melissa Mark-Viverito, who briefly hit the phones herself at Monday's phone bank in Brooklyn.

"I've been very amazed, particularly yesterday at the retreat, at the level of engagement that this campaign is doing bilingually, biculturally, really speaking to the issues that matter to us," Mark-Viverito said. ...............






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Hillary Clinton’s campaign made a move that shows how far ahead of her rivals she is (Original Post) riversedge Nov 2015 OP
Riddle Me This - Why Would Any Citizen Choose To Stand With A Member Of The 1% cantbeserious Nov 2015 #1
^Worst. Riddler. Ever. Nt Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2015 #2
it was so bad, that poster's 'riddling' privileges should be revoked. KittyWampus Nov 2015 #5
So Typical - Did Not Address The Riddle - This Citizen Wonders Why cantbeserious Nov 2015 #11
FDR was part of the 1%. So is Soros. brush Nov 2015 #84
So Typical - Did Not Address The Riddle - This Citizen Wonders Why cantbeserious Nov 2015 #10
It was not a riddle. Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2015 #17
It Is A Riddle - As Well As A Well Worded Question cantbeserious Nov 2015 #22
I think you may need some remediel English courses... Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2015 #88
"Nothing wrong with the 1%" blackspade Nov 2015 #31
Yep. Phlem Nov 2015 #43
A fraction of the 1% are assholes. Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2015 #87
A fraction, huh? blackspade Nov 2015 #121
FDR, the Kenedies, LBJ, Jimmy Carter... Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2015 #122
Yes, but those liberals who are part of the 1 percent... CoffeeCat Nov 2015 #130
The terrible Riddler impersonator who I originally brought this up with Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2015 #134
Not all wealthy are in the 1% tazkcmo Nov 2015 #46
So FDR or the Kennedys were all wrong? mythology Nov 2015 #115
+1. cheapdate Nov 2015 #55
When Trump suggests voters who don't support him are stupid onenote Nov 2015 #125
. BootinUp Nov 2015 #6
So Typical - Did Not Address The Riddle - This Citizen Wonders Why cantbeserious Nov 2015 #15
Post removed Post removed Nov 2015 #20
That The Truth Bores You Is A Reflection On You cantbeserious Nov 2015 #23
If your truthiness was true you wouldn't have to try so hard. nt BootinUp Nov 2015 #25
Nice Try At Deflection - Away From Your Boredom cantbeserious Nov 2015 #27
Awwwwwww, that one will be on timeout until Jan.11 or so. kath Dec 2015 #146
An answer to a riddle is often found in a link provided in the OP. oasis Nov 2015 #14
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #44
Johnny come lately? tazkcmo Nov 2015 #53
speaking of johnny come latelys N/T Old Codger Nov 2015 #79
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #114
Riddle me this: is your question serious, are you demonstrating your mastery of baiting? Orrex Nov 2015 #45
Deadly Serious - Peoples Lives Are At Stake Across The World cantbeserious Nov 2015 #58
That's why it's important to put an electable candidate on the ballot Orrex Nov 2015 #61
Riddle Me This - Why Would Any Citizen Choose To Stand With A Member Of The 1% cantbeserious Nov 2015 #64
All of them? Golly! Orrex Nov 2015 #66
Your Opinion Only - Others See The World Differently cantbeserious Nov 2015 #67
Those others are realistic. YES SHE CAN riversedge Nov 2015 #71
As suspected, you're simply trolling. Orrex Nov 2015 #72
^^^^^THIS^^^^^ n/t JTFrog Nov 2015 #138
Of course it only only an opinion. msrizzo Nov 2015 #98
Yet your posts presume your opinion treestar Nov 2015 #128
No. 9 doesn't apply to Hillary supporters. Fawke Em Nov 2015 #94
Your opinion doesn't mean shit to me Orrex Nov 2015 #100
Oh yes. All those totally unelectable democrats, save one Scootaloo Nov 2015 #68
You're familiar with reality, are you not? Orrex Nov 2015 #74
Explain to me, in detail, why you think all the Republicans are better than Sanders or O'Malley Scootaloo Nov 2015 #107
Since I don't think that, it's not up to me to explain it Orrex Nov 2015 #113
The ones who work in Trump's buildings are REQUIRED to support him. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #51
When I see Hillary, I think of the banks and the mortgage companies that broke our economy JDPriestly Nov 2015 #59
Agree Completely cantbeserious Nov 2015 #63
Hillary is a huge mistake....I agree there. Not the right time for her. SammyWinstonJack Nov 2015 #76
+ 1,000,000,000 - What You Said !!! WillyT Nov 2015 #117
Because people see what they want to see, and most of the candidates take advantage rwsanders Nov 2015 #73
so curious, right? Maybe 63% of voting Dems can come up with the answer Sheepshank Dec 2015 #144
No Answer - So Predictable cantbeserious Dec 2015 #145
Its magic Sheepshank Dec 2015 #147
Hillary Clinton: "“they should be sent back.” Crystalite Nov 2015 #3
Another typical Old Codger Nov 2015 #81
She will welcome them with open arms AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #90
Is she attempting to use gang signs? What is up with her hands? nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #4
at least she's not pointing her finger and coming across like an angry old man nt KittyWampus Nov 2015 #8
Looks more like a Trump imitation to me. nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #9
I love angry old men! wendylaroux Nov 2015 #75
Yeah, that's why McCain had such a strong finish in 2008. Orrex Nov 2015 #104
ok,that makes no sense. wendylaroux Nov 2015 #109
Oh please. Orrex Nov 2015 #112
I thought DU liked fun hand signs from candidates? Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #93
You mean like Trumps? Live and Learn Nov 2015 #97
Everyone liked it when Sanders did it. *shrug* Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #99
Bernie was simply doing the famous hand gesture associated with Run the Jewels. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #101
Well, this is the kind of hard-hitting and issues-based analysis that wins elections. Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #102
Yep, I am learning from you guys. Thanks. nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #103
You're welcome! Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #105
Thanks again. I actually love that picture. nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #106
awwwww Bernie!! wendylaroux Nov 2015 #111
Riddle me this pinebox Nov 2015 #7
This Citizen Is Unable To Fathom Why Any Citizen Would Support HRC cantbeserious Nov 2015 #12
Maybe you could ask John Lewis or Dolores Huerta. eom lunamagica Nov 2015 #50
Please Ask Them To Share Broadly - The Answers Might be Illuminating cantbeserious Nov 2015 #54
I don't need to ask them. I know why they are doing it. eom lunamagica Nov 2015 #57
Well - Since You Speak For Them - Please Share cantbeserious Nov 2015 #60
Sure! Thanks for asking! But I don't need to speak for them lunamagica Nov 2015 #70
Those are compliments, not reasons Android3.14 Nov 2015 #85
That's rich comming from a Sanders supporter lunamagica Nov 2015 #89
She sure 'chooses poorly' /makes 'mistakes' that she has to 'evolve' on FREQUENTLY... AzDar Nov 2015 #62
Indeed it does pinebox Nov 2015 #133
How come a poster with Bernie and MLK on it is derided... bobbobbins01 Nov 2015 #13
Hypocrisy form Clinton supporters? Couldn't be. nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #16
But, you just did. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #21
Huh? bobbobbins01 Nov 2015 #24
Yeah, I get that a lot. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #26
+1 lunamagica Nov 2015 #92
;-) NurseJackie Nov 2015 #108
was just gonna say--she keeps aiming for the "Eva" button, but always hits the "Isabel" one instead MisterP Nov 2015 #39
Awesome! NurseJackie Nov 2015 #18
Yes, it is. riversedge Nov 2015 #33
Nice post. nt BootinUp Nov 2015 #19
Why Would Any Citizen Support Or Follow A Member Of The 1% cantbeserious Nov 2015 #28
We got your question the first dozen times in this thread Blue_Adept Nov 2015 #49
The Questions Stand - No Answers Given cantbeserious Nov 2015 #52
Truth. The Blue Traveller Nov 2015 #120
Thank you so much. riversedge Nov 2015 #32
Love it! MoonRiver Nov 2015 #29
Who is the woman in the poster? hootinholler Nov 2015 #30
@MetroBTC members out in force for @HillaryClinton in #Boston @UAPipeTrades @BK537 @busagent12 #Hard riversedge Nov 2015 #34
I think they misspelled floriduck Nov 2015 #36
LOL SammyWinstonJack Nov 2015 #77
What a AWESOME picture that first one is! William769 Nov 2015 #35
This really seems to be a well-run campaign mcar Nov 2015 #37
K & R Iliyah Nov 2015 #38
As long as you Hillary supporters ignore millenials, your polls are way off. litlbilly Nov 2015 #40
In that regard, Hillary's polls are about 75,000,000 millennials off. DrBulldog Nov 2015 #42
I'm a millennial. Voting for Hillary. bravenak Nov 2015 #123
Well, the latinas should now read Hillary's statement on free college education. DrBulldog Nov 2015 #41
This Latina has read it, and I agree with her lunamagica Nov 2015 #80
Rich parents AnarchoDeJesus Nov 2015 #83
Oh, GMAB. Many, many would lunamagica Nov 2015 #91
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #142
Why does it matter if Trumpers children get a free education? Agony Nov 2015 #96
What is wrong with giving 10 hours a week back to the community? lunamagica Nov 2015 #110
nothing is wrong with giving time "back" to any community Agony Nov 2015 #119
10 hours a week is not 1/4 of "their time" lunamagica Nov 2015 #124
10 hours = 25% of 40hr work week Agony Nov 2015 #126
We're not talking about a "work week". A week has 168 hours. eom lunamagica Nov 2015 #127
Latinos and Hillary have a long relationship, decades long relationship lunamagica Nov 2015 #47
Hispanic Support of Hillary Clinton seems misguided. DhhD Nov 2015 #65
Hillary has never been president. Now tell me what was Sanders doing lunamagica Nov 2015 #78
"No wonder activist Dolores Huerta endorsed Hillary." Cha Nov 2015 #132
Por nada, Cha! lunamagica Nov 2015 #135
Hola mi amiga! Cha Nov 2015 #136
Hola, amiga! lunamagica Dec 2015 #139
.. Cha Dec 2015 #140
One more doesn't hurt! lunamagica Dec 2015 #141
haha you sound like sour grapes. riversedge Nov 2015 #86
Post removed Post removed Nov 2015 #48
Oh gawd...more of her round table stuff... SoapBox Nov 2015 #56
You mean how far they THINK she is. Fuddnik Nov 2015 #69
Or how far they want us to think she is. n/t winter is coming Nov 2015 #82
Talking to young Latinas shows she's ahead? Fawke Em Nov 2015 #95
How far ahead can she be with pieces like this being written Oilwellian Nov 2015 #116
Awesome post, rivers.. Gracias! Cha Nov 2015 #118
Why is Hillary cool with refugees from Syria azmom Nov 2015 #129
"The campaign is already working with an impressive — and growing — roster of high-profile local Cha Nov 2015 #131
Bernie supporters, instead of hurling invectives, try learning something about how campaigns are won Yavin4 Nov 2015 #137
Indeed! NurseJackie Dec 2015 #143
 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
5. it was so bad, that poster's 'riddling' privileges should be revoked.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 01:58 PM
Nov 2015

Actually there's a post below that's an even worse riddle.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
17. It was not a riddle.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 02:12 PM
Nov 2015

It was just a badly worded question. There is nothing wrong with the 1%. It's bullshit posturing that all the wealthy are evil.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
88. I think you may need some remediel English courses...
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 05:15 PM
Nov 2015

Or at least pick up a book of riddles and try and understand the difference between a riddle and a question.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
31. "Nothing wrong with the 1%"
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 03:23 PM
Nov 2015

You mean the percent that is looting the nation?
Oh no, nothing wrong with them.

Jesus fucking Christ on a stick.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
87. A fraction of the 1% are assholes.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 05:14 PM
Nov 2015

Lumping them all together is dishonest. I know, we all need a boogeyman, but MOST liberal icons were part of the "evil 1%". Just because you're rich, doesn't mean you're a dick (unless of course your name is Richard, then you could possibly go by Dick, but I'm not here to judge).

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
121. A fraction, huh?
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 08:11 PM
Nov 2015

The top 1% hold more income and wealth than 50% of the country and that share only increases.
They are the ones that gamble with the savings of the middle and working classes so that they can hold even more of the wealth.

When they start contributing to our society as a whole by spending that money or contributing to the social good via taxes or stop buying politicians that then rig the system in the wealthiest's favor then they will cease to be assholes.

But, if it makes you feel better to ignore reality.....

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
130. Yes, but those liberals who are part of the 1 percent...
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 12:27 AM
Nov 2015

...are working like hell to change the system. They're part of a very tiny minority in the one percent.

The problem is that the vast majority of one percenters have immense power over the lower 99 precent and are engaging in activities that exploit, use and make life worse for the middle class.

Lower wages. Disappearing benefits. Greed beyond belief.

Most CEO's have completely lost their way--taking huge salaries while fighting a minimum wage.

To argue that the one percent isn't bad--because the Kennedys are part of that one percent--is to be completely oblivious about income disparity and about the the majority of one percenters who have intentionally exploited workers, stagnated middle-class wages, and destroyed the middle class.

I'm ashamed that any Democrat would make such a lame argument.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
134. The terrible Riddler impersonator who I originally brought this up with
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 09:27 AM
Nov 2015

only sees in black and white, while the world has many different nuanced colors. Hillary Clinton is part of the 1%, yet she has fought for the poor and middle class most of her life. Now, one CAN cherry pick through and find an instance here or there, but the facts (and her votes) say differently. My point is that the 99% vs the 1% is a misguided argument. Us vs Them mentalities relies on black and white thinking. I like to see the world with more nuance.

Are there asshole 1%ers who would rip you off in a heartbeat? Sure. But there's also asshole middle class who would do EXACTLY the same. Let's deal with the assholes that caused this mess and not blame it on the entire group they belong to.

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
46. Not all wealthy are in the 1%
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 03:53 PM
Nov 2015

"There is nothing wrong with the 1%."

lol Nope, not if they're your donors.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
115. So FDR or the Kennedys were all wrong?
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 06:54 PM
Nov 2015

Merely having a lot of money doesn't inherently make one evil. Presuming it does is simplistic thinking that shows a very limited knowledge of history.

onenote

(42,696 posts)
125. When Trump suggests voters who don't support him are stupid
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 10:28 PM
Nov 2015

we roll our eyes and mock him.

Why would anyone here make essentially the same claim about those who support one of Democratic candidates and think it would be received with anything different?

And, yes, there are supporter of both Bernie and Clinton that are guilty of this.

Response to cantbeserious (Reply #15)

oasis

(49,376 posts)
14. An answer to a riddle is often found in a link provided in the OP.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 02:07 PM
Nov 2015

Helpful only if you take the time to read before posting.

Response to cantbeserious (Reply #1)

Response to Old Codger (Reply #79)

Orrex

(63,203 posts)
61. That's why it's important to put an electable candidate on the ballot
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 04:19 PM
Nov 2015

Also, why would anyone choose to stand with a member of the five percent?

cantbeserious

(13,039 posts)
64. Riddle Me This - Why Would Any Citizen Choose To Stand With A Member Of The 1%
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 04:22 PM
Nov 2015

The 1% are ruining the world - not saving it.

Orrex

(63,203 posts)
66. All of them? Golly!
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 04:24 PM
Nov 2015

Your question is silly and facile no matter how many times you repeat it.

Citizens might choose to stand with a member of the 1% for a host of reasons.

For instance, the one percenter might:
1. articulate a realistic vision for progress, rather than a laundry list of crowd-friendly but unlikely pie-in-the-sky brass rings.
2. have a decades long history of leadership and international respect, rather than representing the 2nd smallest constituency in the nation.
3. demonstrate a long history of easily weathering attacks by a hostile GOP, rather than never really having had to defend against such attacks.
4. speak to issues that resonate with the citizen, which hardly the exclusive purview of members of the top five percent.
5. seem like a credible candidate for office, rather than like a windmill-tilter with a rabid fanbase
6. be a Democrat known to the public for decades, rather than being an all-but-anonymous Independent from the nation's 2nd smallest constituency
7. simply stand a better chance of winning the election against a billion-dollar GOP attack machine, rather than running a campaign on a mac-n-cheese shoestring budget.
8. have supporters not so blinded by adoration that they recognize the need to win the office even if the favored candidate is unsuccessful, rather than declaring an intent not to vote for the one percenter.
9. have supporters who don't immediately launch personal attacks against anyone who isn't part of the club.

That's nine just off the top of my head. When you make your attempt to refute them, please offer your specific reasons why a citizen shouldn't want to stand with a member of the 1%, and tell us why a citizen should want to stand with a member of the 5%.

Orrex

(63,203 posts)
72. As suspected, you're simply trolling.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 04:28 PM
Nov 2015

You asked a question and I answered it nine times over, and you give a Bill O'Reilly non-answer when an equivalent question is asked of you.

What does Sanders think of the intellectual dishonesty of his supporters? Would he endorse such petty and childish tactics?

msrizzo

(796 posts)
98. Of course it only only an opinion.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 05:34 PM
Nov 2015

However, it was an answer to the question. Perhaps the challenge should be to provide only answers that would satisfy you and in that case it would be pointless for anyone who supports Hillary Clinton to answer.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
94. No. 9 doesn't apply to Hillary supporters.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 05:23 PM
Nov 2015

Bernie supporters are regularly attacked - even in THIS thread (see the hide above) - by Hill supporters.

The rest of your list is crap, too, but that one was disproven in this thread and easily debunked.

Orrex

(63,203 posts)
100. Your opinion doesn't mean shit to me
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 05:45 PM
Nov 2015

As long as you vote Democrat in Nov 2016, I don't care what kind of "We're the real victims" fairy tales you tell yourself in the meantime

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
68. Oh yes. All those totally unelectable democrats, save one
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 04:25 PM
Nov 2015

We might as well pare down the party, rid ourselves of all that useless trash that ISN'T named Clinton, and just let her do as she wants. She's our only hope against the magnificent, awesome Republicans! We have no hope, we're doomed without her! They're too powerful, their positions too good, their support too broad!

Orrex

(63,203 posts)
74. You're familiar with reality, are you not?
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 04:32 PM
Nov 2015

At this stage of the game, tell us who can reasonably be expected to win the Democratic nomination and thereafter the general election? Sanders? Maybe, but he's still an incredible long shot.

You can hold your breath and fume about it, or you can accept that this is the world we live in and work with it.


I'm sorry that we don't all get to pick our Dream Candidate, but this is the way the process has worked for 200 years or more.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
107. Explain to me, in detail, why you think all the Republicans are better than Sanders or O'Malley
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 06:02 PM
Nov 2015

That's the argument you and other Clinton supporters are making when you declare your primary vote as based on "they can't win the general."

Orrex

(63,203 posts)
113. Since I don't think that, it's not up to me to explain it
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 06:37 PM
Nov 2015

Just about any living Democrat you can name is better than just about any livong Republican you can name, but it would be catastrophically naive to pretend that simply being "better" is enough to win the general election.

Please explain to me how you think Sanders can win in Nov 2016, when the numbers don't even suggest he can win the primary. And please, no wistful reminiscences about the 2007 primary season; I want a rational explanation and not some fantasy about a perfect storm sweeping him into office.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
59. When I see Hillary, I think of the banks and the mortgage companies that broke our economy
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 04:19 PM
Nov 2015

and with it small businesses, families, hearts, dreams, hopes and have NOT MADE ONE VOLUNTARY GESTURE TO MEND THOSE FAMILIES, HEARTS, DREAMS AND HOPES.

It is disgusting to me.

This is the Christmas season.

If Jesus were alive today, he would not be preaching against the tax collectors. He would be preaching against the hedge fund operators, the big bank crooks and the cruel debt collectors and not so much them as individuals as against the system run by lowly politicians and regulators that allowed and allows the system of indebtedness from student loans to mortgages to car loans to all the debt that people take upon themselves at the urging of the devils who run our financial sector. He would be preaching against Hillary's biggest donors.

It is hideous.

And now, we move into the Christmas season, the time of year when Hillary's donors and personal friends sell debt to Americans under the guise of the Christmas spirit.

Sorry guys, there is nothing Holy about buying Christmas gifts if you have to borrow the money to do it and pay interest of 26% after Christmas to pay for the darn junk.
.
I saw what happened between 2005 and 2008. It was immoral. It was a scheme. I watched it unfold. I now see the damaged hearts and lives. Some of them are my friends and family.

Is Hillary blind to what happened? Did she not see that her friends, some of them, caused the downward spiral that many are still caught up in?

I want to make it clear that I am not complaining about my own situation. I saw what was happening and avoided the worst of it. I am talking about people I know and the pain they suffer -- lost homes, lost businesses, the feeling of guilt for losing out when THEY did nothing wrong. It was a scheme not over-exuberance. It was stupidity at the helm of our economy. Stupidity and a foolish, simplistic, misguided economic viewpoint.

Sorry fpr the emotional rant, but it is very frustrating to see Americans once again making a huge mistake.

Hillary is a huge mistake. She is not bright enough to see past the shiny objects and the dollar bills that her friends in the financial sector wave before her eyes. And her moral sense is not strong enough to be quietly outraged by what has happened.

Vote for Hillary if you want to keep the banks and their schemes in charge.

Feel the Bern!

SammyWinstonJack

(44,130 posts)
76. Hillary is a huge mistake....I agree there. Not the right time for her.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 04:36 PM
Nov 2015

Not that I think any time would be.

She is part of the problem.

rwsanders

(2,596 posts)
73. Because people see what they want to see, and most of the candidates take advantage
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 04:31 PM
Nov 2015

of that by trying to appear as if they are a reflection of what that group of voters wants.
But if they'd only dig a bit:
http://www.thenation.com/article/ben-carson-isnt-the-only-us-politician-with-a-hand-in-shady-latin-american-dealings/

(in a whisper) Go Bernie!

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
144. so curious, right? Maybe 63% of voting Dems can come up with the answer
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 06:04 PM
Dec 2015

Apparently Bernie and his supporters cannot figure it out.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
147. Its magic
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 02:38 PM
Dec 2015

And/or 63% of the Dem voters are completely insane. Heaven forbid that you should give them credit for,having come to a decision that doesn't include your precious Bernie?

Your incredulous assumption that Hillary supporters are dumb, ill Informed, naive or just plain stupid simply magnifies your tone deafness. You are not looking for an answer...you want an excuse to bash and lecture.

 

Old Codger

(4,205 posts)
81. Another typical
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 04:54 PM
Nov 2015

Turnaround in her campaign/life, whichever way the wind blows...Any opportunistic turn there is she will take it...

Orrex

(63,203 posts)
112. Oh please.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 06:32 PM
Nov 2015

Sanders supporters LOVE to claim that he's a viable candidate because "Obama was the outsider and the long shot in 2007," blah blah blah. If your peers seriously want to compare 2007 to today, then you should be careful with your adoration of the Angry Old Guy. The Angry Old Guy got his ass handed to him in 07.

But hey, at least the Angry Old Guy made it to the general election in 2008.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
99. Everyone liked it when Sanders did it. *shrug*
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 05:36 PM
Nov 2015

But you're the palmistry expert, I guess. Glad the hand police are here!

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
101. Bernie was simply doing the famous hand gesture associated with Run the Jewels.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 05:48 PM
Nov 2015

He knew what he was doing. Nobody seems to know what Hillary is doing.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
102. Well, this is the kind of hard-hitting and issues-based analysis that wins elections.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 05:49 PM
Nov 2015

Glad to see you're on the case.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
70. Sure! Thanks for asking! But I don't need to speak for them
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 04:28 PM
Nov 2015

They themselves explain it beautifully

From Rep. Lewis:

"As our former Secretary of State, Senator from New York, and first Lady of the United States, Hillary Clinton is the most qualified person to be President of the United States," said Congressman Lewis in a statement released Wednesday by the campaign.

"I know her heart. We need her leadership, not just here in America, but all over the world. She is tireless in her advocacy for those who have been left out and left behind. She is ready to be President on day one. Hillary Clinton has my wholehearted endorsement, and I plan to work and campaign for her to see that she is elected the next President of the United States."

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From Dolores Huerta:

Huerta reiterated her support for former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, but the support is not solely based on gender. She explained, "[Clinton] is a strong woman. She has the experience [and] she's been connected with the Latina community for many decades even before she was the secretary of state or when she ran for the presidency the first time."

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
85. Those are compliments, not reasons
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 05:07 PM
Nov 2015

Her past votes, some of them leading to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people and the maiming of our Constitution are what is important.

"I know her heart" is a meaningless platitude. Her yes vote on the IWR contributed to the deaths of innocent men, women, and children both domestic and foreign.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
89. That's rich comming from a Sanders supporter
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 05:16 PM
Nov 2015

You guy always talk about him as if he was a saint.

And I guess you overlooked the part where he talks about why she's the best quialified to be president.

"She is tireless in her advocacy for those who have been left out and left behind. ".

As for Ms Huerta, she cites the long history Hillary has with Hispanics.

Those are solid reasons.

 

AzDar

(14,023 posts)
62. She sure 'chooses poorly' /makes 'mistakes' that she has to 'evolve' on FREQUENTLY...
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 04:21 PM
Nov 2015

disqualifies her as POTUS material...

bobbobbins01

(1,681 posts)
13. How come a poster with Bernie and MLK on it is derided...
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 02:06 PM
Nov 2015

But a poster likening Hillary to Eva Peron goes without comment? Seems like a double standard.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
21. But, you just did.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 02:19 PM
Nov 2015

"Hillary is like Eva Peron!" HA! :-D



My guess is that some things are worth criticizing, while others aren't. I'll leave it up to you to decide which is which.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
39. was just gonna say--she keeps aiming for the "Eva" button, but always hits the "Isabel" one instead
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 03:46 PM
Nov 2015

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Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
49. We got your question the first dozen times in this thread
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 04:00 PM
Nov 2015

Seriously, you're not just bordering on spamming the thread with your "riddle" but have gone beyond it.

riversedge

(70,190 posts)
34. @MetroBTC members out in force for @HillaryClinton in #Boston @UAPipeTrades @BK537 @busagent12 #Hard
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 03:29 PM
Nov 2015



Impact Democracy and 23 others follow
Tim Chaisson ?@UAOrganizer550 1h1 hour ago

@MetroBTC members out in force for @HillaryClinton in #Boston @UAPipeTrades @BK537 @busagent12 #HardHatsForHillary

William769

(55,145 posts)
35. What a AWESOME picture that first one is!
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 03:32 PM
Nov 2015

But then again, she's always been a leader and not a follower.

 

litlbilly

(2,227 posts)
40. As long as you Hillary supporters ignore millenials, your polls are way off.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 03:47 PM
Nov 2015

It seems to me that you are hoping they don't come out to vote for Bernie. That just doesn't seem very democratic, small d, to me. You can show us polls and other snarky things, but, these are different times and we have not seen a champion of the people like Bernie since the 1920's. The millennials will come out to vote and they will come out for Bernie.

 

DrBulldog

(841 posts)
41. Well, the latinas should now read Hillary's statement on free college education.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 03:49 PM
Nov 2015

She clearly stated that she was far more concerned about allowing Donald Trump's children getting a free college education than allowing such a benefit for anyone else's children - including latino children.

Soak that thought in, people.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
80. This Latina has read it, and I agree with her
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 04:50 PM
Nov 2015

I DON'T want to pay for Trump's children getting a free education!

I'm fully on board with working 10 hrs a week to pay back. What happened to giving back to the community? People are against it? Really?

Response to lunamagica (Reply #91)

Agony

(2,605 posts)
96. Why does it matter if Trumpers children get a free education?
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 05:29 PM
Nov 2015

Civilization is not best designed around making sure that freeloaders don't get anything from the commons… That's REPUBLICAN/CONSERVATIVE "it's a black and white one dimensional world" boooll shit.

There is NO reason why ANY child should not get a free education (or health care, or ultimately, retirement security) as a right.

Human rights are human rights, even for rich fuckers.

Jesus, why is this even an issue...

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
110. What is wrong with giving 10 hours a week back to the community?
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 06:18 PM
Nov 2015

Or is it to much to ask of these kids?

Yes, I can't believe that DEMOCRATS have a problem with it

Agony

(2,605 posts)
119. nothing is wrong with giving time "back" to any community
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 07:57 PM
Nov 2015

you and I probably already do that as privileged as we are…

some people can not afford to spend 1/4 of their time to "repay" the commons.

I can not assume what someone else is able to contribute but I still will fight for their right to an education.

What if Trumps kids are gay and the fucker refuses to support an education for them… fuck em'?

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
124. 10 hours a week is not 1/4 of "their time"
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 10:19 PM
Nov 2015

And if Trump won't support them, they can give their 10 hours, like the rest of them.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
47. Latinos and Hillary have a long relationship, decades long relationship
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 03:55 PM
Nov 2015

Deep roots there.

Si se puede, Hillary!

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
78. Hillary has never been president. Now tell me what was Sanders doing
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 04:43 PM
Nov 2015

for the Hispanic community when Hillary was registering Hispanic voters in South Texas?

Sanders voted with Republicans against the 2006 Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act. 11 million + immigrants thought they were seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. Finally, they would be able to come out of the shadows, to fully integrate to society and live without fear. Sanders dashed those hopes. Hillary voted YEA.

Do you think those 11 million + will overlook this? They all have family and friends who are citizens. Who witnessed their pain up close.

No wonder activist Dolores Huerta endorsed Hillary.

No wonder he is polling so poorly among Hispanics.

Response to riversedge (Original post)

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
56. Oh gawd...more of her round table stuff...
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 04:18 PM
Nov 2015

Like her private, by invitation only, "listening /conversations" things. Gotta love that the story starts out with meeting on the 11th floor of her Brooklyn Heights campaign headquarters...how about her getting her behind out of the posh neighborhood and down into real Latino/Hispanic neighborhoods.

I love the one reply to the article:

"@Sad: Your belief that Latinos have "tons of kids" is many years out of date. Although 20 years ago Hispanic women did have a fertility rate of 3.0 children per women, it is now somewhere between 2.1 and 2.3. Whites, blacks and Asians are all below replacement level (2.1), so if anything this is a gift they are giving us."

p.s...why does that pic look Photo Shopped?

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
95. Talking to young Latinas shows she's ahead?
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 05:25 PM
Nov 2015


Shows me she knows she's losing the war on who can reach Millennials to me.

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
116. How far ahead can she be with pieces like this being written
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 06:58 PM
Nov 2015
"Clinton declined our invitation. While Sanders and O’Malley were with us, committing to pro-immigrant policies, Clinton was in New Hampshire, using the “i” word—“illegal.” At a New Hampshire event, she responded to a question about immigration by touting her border enforcement credentials and saying “I voted numerous times when I was a senator to spend money to build a barrier to try to prevent illegal immigrants from coming in.”

The Hill

azmom

(5,208 posts)
129. Why is Hillary cool with refugees from Syria
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 12:05 AM
Nov 2015

But not ones from Honduras? She must not really like Latinos. She's only pretending to get our votes. No quiero la Hillary!

Cha

(297,154 posts)
131. "The campaign is already working with an impressive — and growing — roster of high-profile local
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 01:59 AM
Nov 2015

campaign surrogates. The list includes former Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, brothers Rep. Joaquin Castro (D-Texas) and Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Julian Castro, and New York City Council Speaker Melissa Mark-Viverito, who briefly hit the phones herself at Monday's phone bank in Brooklyn."

I love La Hillary's Campaign Surrogates!

Yavin4

(35,437 posts)
137. Bernie supporters, instead of hurling invectives, try learning something about how campaigns are won
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 10:40 PM
Nov 2015

It's not about crowds at speeches. It's about getting out the vote of key groups that can turn a state from red to blue.

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