Hillary

[realFedUp]

Michelle gave a great, heartfelt speech, but there is still
the sceptre of Hillary in the background. Where is she? I know,
Asia, but she should be here and speaking strongly for Obama, in
fact, in place of her husband as an intro. Bill's a good speechmaker
but maybe not the best.
For those of us who voted for Hillary, there are still weird feelings
and judgement about his four years vs. what we think she would
have done.
That's water under the bridge...she's done a remarkable job for any
man or woman as Sec of State and he's done some good things.

Let's pull this party together. We're voting for Obama again, no
question, but we want them to kiss and make up.

[Evergreen Emerald]

1. she cannot. She is no longer a politician. It would be inappropriate.

[Happyhippychick]

2. She's not allowed to be there. She's supposed to be non-partisan.

[realFedUp]

5. Is Obama non-partisan?

That's a non argument.
Plenty of pols here speaking on behalf of Obama.

Frankly every line in the the moral code has been crossed.
I think we need to bring out all the big guns.

[Happyhippychick]

11. I'll try again. She is not allowed to be there, she is Secretary of State. It isn't personal. I'm

Not making an argument, I'm stating the fact.

[Ptah]

3. "the sceptre of Hillary in the background."

What?

[CaliforniaPeggy]

4. I think the word was supposed to be specter.

[Ptah]

17. OK

1: a visible disembodied spirit : ghost
2: something that haunts or perturbs the mind : phantasm <the specter of hunger>

[CaliforniaPeggy]

20. Exactly right.

neighbor!

[Ptah]

27. So you agree with the OP?

You were thinking of Hilary during Michelle's speech?

[CaliforniaPeggy]

28. No, I wasn't thinking of Hilary during Michelle's speech...

I was agreeing with you as to the meaning of the word specter.

I'm not sure where you got that idea!

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

6. Hilary has a sceptre?

Give it a rest, PUMA.
Hillary will get her turn in four years.

[northoftheborder]

10. Give that word "puma" a rest, please. Not every Hillary supporter was a Puma.

[JohnnyLib2]

15. I second that, with a big sigh

[DURHAM D]

25. He doesn't even know what it means.

No one who tries to use it ever does.

[Jennicut]

7. Traditionally, Sec of States do not attend the conventions.

I don't think there is any law against it, but the SOS never comes.

[WI_DEM]

8. A Secretary of State traditionally is non-partisan and so it would not be

appropriate. There is no reason for them to 'kiss and make up' in fact that is a stupid statement. They already have done so and she is his Secretary of State--a very important position in the administration.

[marmar]

9. Isn't she in Asia doing her job?

[scarletwoman]

12. She's not at the Convention because the Sec. of State is part of the presidential succession.

Since both the President and the Vice President are in one place, the Sec. of State is supposed to remain elsewhere.

[charlie and algernon]

13. The Secretary of State is supposed to be above politics

The Secretary of State deals in complex negotiations with world leaders. The SOS needs to be seen as representing the United States as a whole, not a political party.

[realFedUp]

14. Ok, too many martinis

Yes, she's the ghost over the convention, not the queen.
And who give a flying fuck if she's not supposed to be there.
She should be.

[WI_DEM]

16. maybe you should get over 2008

She's a great woman and a great SOS. She would get my vote if she ran in 2016, but to suggest that there is a big pall over the convention because she isn't there is a big stretch. Anybody watching this convention can see the excitement. It's been a great night and we really don't need reminders of 2008 to bring it down. There is no reason for them to 'kiss and make up' as they both have and they have a good relationship and make a good team.

[DURHAM D]

26. Yep - too many.

Your point is off-point.

[center rising]

18. I wish Hillary was there

But she is doing a wonderful job at State!!!

[realFedUp]

19. And FYI Lawrence....

Hillary has given remarkable speeches in elections etc.
Obvioulsy no one wants to bring up her name.

And Romney, in your dreams would any of us on this side
vote for your ass, coz it sucks.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

21. Trashing this thread! It's time to unite, Democrats! Get over 2008! Let's unite!!!!

[realFedUp]

22. Must be new DU rules

I can't respond to any posts here unless I post to my
original post.

Hey, I am over the last election but am disappointed in
Obama. There's no choice in not voting for him to return
to office and there are Obamamaniacs who believe that
and we all hope that a second term will unleash him
to make some real FDR changes.

I just think Hillary's had a huge unpleasant chore in
this administration and she's still one of the big Dems.
Her voice will be absent.
And yeah, her sceptre rules.

[Evergreen Emerald]

24. You are not LISTENING

She is now the SOS. She is no longer in politics. She cannot be there. She has talked about this in the past..She cannot comment on political issues--responds that she is not able to discuss politics as she is SOS.


Have another drink.

[NYC Liberal]

23. She's not there because of State Department rules.

She will be there in 2016.