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Poll: Sanders MORE electable than Hillary against top Republicans

Poll: Sanders more electable than Hillary against top Republicans
By Jesse Byrnes * Dec. 2, 2015 * The Hill

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) is more electable than Democratic presidential rival Hillary Clinton against several top Republican candidates, according to the new national Quinnipiac University Poll.

Sanders leads Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) by 10 points, businessman Donald Trump by 8 points, retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson by 6 points and Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) by 1 point in the poll. Clinton also leads the top four Republican candidates, but by slightly smaller margins. She leads Cruz by 5 points, Trump by 6 points, Carson by 3 points and Rubio by 1 point in the survey.

Still, Clinton has widened her lead in the Democratic race to 30 points in the poll, taking 60 percent to Sanders's 30 percent. Former Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley takes 2 percent in the latest poll.

On the Republican side, Trump has widened his lead and is now supported by 27 percent, followed by Rubio at 17 percent and Cruz and Carson tied at 16 percent.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/261756-poll-sanders-more-electable-than-hillary-against-top

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Reply Poll: Sanders MORE electable than Hillary against top Republicans (Original post)
99th_Monkey Dec 2015 OP
randys1 Dec 2015 #1
Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #3
randys1 Dec 2015 #5
Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #6
randys1 Dec 2015 #9
Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #12
randys1 Dec 2015 #14
Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #16
CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #72
thesquanderer Dec 2015 #24
Beartracks Dec 2015 #25
randys1 Dec 2015 #28
thesquanderer Dec 2015 #40
randys1 Dec 2015 #44
Proserpina Dec 2015 #67
Android3.14 Dec 2015 #49
randys1 Dec 2015 #52
A Simple Game Dec 2015 #62
Tommy2Tone Dec 2015 #2
99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #7
daleanime Dec 2015 #23
tabasco Dec 2015 #4
CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #29
tabasco Dec 2015 #43
CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #71
FloridaBlues Dec 2015 #8
RichVRichV Dec 2015 #36
shwnrob Dec 2015 #58
DCBob Dec 2015 #10
DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2015 #11
DCBob Dec 2015 #13
Major Hogwash Dec 2015 #78
Gamecock Lefty Dec 2015 #15
Proserpina Dec 2015 #18
CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #32
Jack Rabbit Dec 2015 #33
Proserpina Dec 2015 #39
CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #73
Jack Rabbit Dec 2015 #77
CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #79
99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #21
CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #34
Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #17
Proserpina Dec 2015 #20
Bubzer Dec 2015 #26
CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #75
stupidicus Dec 2015 #19
99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #22
CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #54
merrily Dec 2015 #27
stupidicus Dec 2015 #31
Protalker Dec 2015 #30
Politicub Dec 2015 #35
FrostyAusty Dec 2015 #37
SunSeeker Dec 2015 #38
Proserpina Dec 2015 #41
SunSeeker Dec 2015 #57
Proserpina Dec 2015 #66
tabasco Dec 2015 #47
SunSeeker Dec 2015 #61
tabasco Dec 2015 #64
SunSeeker Dec 2015 #65
tabasco Dec 2015 #69
SunSeeker Dec 2015 #70
CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #80
MaggieD Dec 2015 #48
The Blue Traveller Dec 2015 #42
MaggieD Dec 2015 #45
zentrum Dec 2015 #46
Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #50
Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #51
Gman Dec 2015 #53
George II Dec 2015 #55
99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #59
CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #74
CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #56
Faux pas Dec 2015 #60
olddots Dec 2015 #63
Cheese Sandwich Dec 2015 #68
redstateblues Dec 2015 #76

Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 01:10 PM

1. So when it is Clinton some actually support the terrorists but if it is Bernie they support

Bernie.

What are these brain dead rightwingers hearing that makes them think Bernie has ANYTHING in common with the terrorists in their party?


Some of those polled seem to be saying if our choice is Hilary, we vote for the rightwing asshole, but if our choice is Bernie, we vote for Bernie

Which makes zero sense.

Bernie is the exact opposite of ALL cons.

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Response to randys1 (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 01:20 PM

3. That's the point, in their eyes Hillary isn't any different in regards to foreign policy than

the Republican neocons, so divisive cultural issues play a larger role in their decision making.

Bernie is a whole new paradigm which supersedes or largely transcends such considerations.

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Response to Uncle Joe (Reply #3)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 01:21 PM

5. Since most of them want more war, how does this make sense?

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Response to randys1 (Reply #5)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 01:24 PM

6. Most of them believe the billionaire class and mega-corporations have corrupted our government.

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Response to Uncle Joe (Reply #6)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 01:28 PM

9. NONE of the ones I talk to believe that, or if they do they ALWAYS defend Koch Bros

So no, it makes zero sense that someone who would vote for Cruz will switch their vote to Bernie, unless they believe something we arent talking about

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Response to randys1 (Reply #9)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 01:37 PM

12. Anecdotal evidence is okay but polls reflect a different point of view.



Most Americans think campaign money aids rich

Most Americans, no matter what their political party, believe there is too much money in politics and reject the idea that people should be allowed to spend what they want, a Reuters/Ipsos poll showed on Thursday.

Seventy-five percent of Americans feel there is too much money in politics, and only 25 percent feel there is an intrinsic right to unfettered election spending, an argument commonly used by opponents of controls on campaign finance.

Almost the same proportion - 76 percent - feel that the amount of money in elections has given rich people more influence than other Americans, the online survey found.

"What we're essentially seeing is Americans are fed up with the system and they think all the money in the system is not fair and they don't like it," said Chris Jackson, research director at Ipsos public affairs.


(snip)

The poll found 79 percent of Democrats believe there is too much money in politics, compared with 68 percent of Republicans. Independents largely agreed with Democrats on the issue, with 77 percent saying there is too much money in politics and campaigns.

Read more at Reutershttp://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/24/us-usa-campaign-spending-idUSBRE84N1RB20120524#x8eMrJSoyeKHZ1Fy.99

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Response to Uncle Joe (Reply #12)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 01:41 PM

14. The 25% who dont believe it is a problem are the ones voting for such horrific terrorists like

Cruz.

Of that I am pretty sure, so what in the HELL are they HEARING or believing that makes them think Bernie is better?

scares the crap out of me

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Response to randys1 (Reply #14)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 01:50 PM

16. Hillary has a high negative favorability rating among Republicans to boot.



Clinton has a negative 44 - 51 percent favorability rating. Other favorability ratings are:
Negative 35 - 57 percent for Trump;
40 - 33 percent for Carson;
44 - 31 percent for Sanders;
37 - 28 percent for Rubio;
33 - 33 percent for Cruz.
American voters say 60 - 36 percent that Clinton is not honest and trustworthy. Trump is not honest and trustworthy, voters say 59 - 35 percent. Sanders gets the best honesty grades among top candidates, 59 - 28 percent, with Carson at 53 - 34 percent, Rubio at 49 - 33 percent and Cruz at 43 - 39 percent.



http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2307

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Response to Uncle Joe (Reply #16)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 07:00 PM

72. And yet Hillary is ahead of each and every one of them

So how important is that poll of yours

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Response to randys1 (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 02:05 PM

24. There are rightwingers who simply won't vote for HRC no matter what

but are still dissatisfied enough with the Republican choices that they would actually consider voting for Sanders.

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Response to thesquanderer (Reply #24)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 02:13 PM

25. Repubs absolutely hate hate hate Hillary.

Even knowing what loons they've got on their side in the race, they would STILL vote for whichever GOP wack-job
is their candidate over ANY Clinton. Ever. Period.

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Response to thesquanderer (Reply #24)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 02:21 PM

28. Hillary, if nominated, wins by several points assuming Black people are allowed to vote

and votes are counted as cast.

Maybe we should be focusing on their efforts to stop voting.

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Response to randys1 (Reply #28)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 02:51 PM

40. Both HRC and BS would likely beat any Republican.

The fact that BS might beat them by more (based on the OP) might only be significant in terms of downticket coattails.

But I agree with you about the importance of voting rights. I doubt all the issues there can be addressed between now and November of 2016, but every step counts.

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Response to thesquanderer (Reply #40)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 02:55 PM

44. There are millions of Black people and others who do not have the ID necessary to vote even

though requiring such is unconstitutional.

And we saw in recent elections stealing votes using electronic machines,

I truly believe approximately 5or 6 million votes will be prevented or switched.

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Response to thesquanderer (Reply #40)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 05:15 PM

67. And election fraud

 

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Response to randys1 (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 03:03 PM

49. Exactly. Now you see the dilemma

 

People will vote against Hillary just because she is Hillary. That is the exactly why we need to get behind Bernie. Not only can he beat the Republicans, but he will do more than Clinton's modest proposals and he will provide extensive enthusiasm for Democratic candidates down the ticket.

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Response to Android3.14 (Reply #49)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 03:06 PM

52. Oh lord, talk about missing the point.

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Response to randys1 (Reply #52)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 04:09 PM

62. I've noticed that, but you keep trying you'll get it after a while. n/t

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 01:16 PM

2. In the same poll Hillary is defeating every Republican as well

American voters shift to Clinton as the Democrat gains ground against Republicans:

47 - 41 percent over Trump, compared to 46 - 43 percent November 4

Clinton at 45 percent to Rubio's 44 percent, compared to a 46 - 41 percent Rubio lead last month

Clinton tops Cruz 47 - 42 percent, compared to Cruz at 46 percent to Clinton's 43 percent last month

Clinton at 46 percent to Carson's 43 percent compared to Carson's 50 - 40 percent lead last month.

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Response to Tommy2Tone (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 01:26 PM

7. That's what "more" means. -nt-

 

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Response to Tommy2Tone (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 02:04 PM

23. So we should accept less?

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 01:20 PM

4. I believe it.

 

I think a lot of registered republicans would vote for Sanders but never for Clinton.

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Response to tabasco (Reply #4)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 02:25 PM

29. No way

That makes absolutely no sense. Maybe some independents, but not registered Republicans. Anybody who has been paying any attention knows the Sanders is more liberal than Clinton. Republicans are not going to to vote for any Democratic candidate, but they certainly will not vote for Sanders.

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Response to CajunBlazer (Reply #29)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 02:54 PM

43. Way.

 

I am surrounded by republicans and that's how they are.

They're pissed off at the republicans and generally hate the Democrats, especially the Clintons.

Some of them are listening to Sanders and like what he says.

Just how it looks in my little part of the world.

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Response to tabasco (Reply #43)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 06:55 PM

71. Your part of the world must be mighty strange

I live in Alabama, arguably the most conservative state in the union. The right wingers I am surrounded by would die laughing at your statement. Heck I'm suppressing a belly laugh myself.

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 01:27 PM

8. Seriously Hillary is up 30 points over Bernie

I don't think you will have to worry about Bernie beating any republican he first has a VERY high hurdle to jump winning against Hillary

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Response to FloridaBlues (Reply #8)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 02:45 PM

36. It actually does matter in the primaries.

One of the most persistent shots against Bernie is that he is unelectable in the GE. The polls are showing otherwise..

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Response to FloridaBlues (Reply #8)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 03:45 PM

58. LOL

 

LOL this right here is funny and so true

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 01:32 PM

10. Bernie benefits from not being the front runner.

All the attacks from the GOP are now aimed squarely at Hillary Clinton whom they assume will be the Dem nominee.

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Response to DCBob (Reply #10)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 01:35 PM

11. When people are dreaming one needs to be careful when waking them up...

It is inane to compare match ups, especially match ups within the margin of error, between one candidate who has been in the fray for forty years and one who hasn't been in the fray at all.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #11)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 01:41 PM

13. General election polls are almost meaningless at this point.

Once its clear who the GOP candidate is going to be then polls like this might make some sense.

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Response to DCBob (Reply #10)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 08:50 PM

78. Exactly.

Just like in 2008 when she was "The Inevitable One" and then whoosh, in came Obama.

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 01:48 PM

15. The only way for this to happen . . .

is for Bernie to win the primary. And it's my opinion (and hope) he does not.

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Response to Gamecock Lefty (Reply #15)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 01:56 PM

18. So, you want Donald Trump in the White House?

 

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Response to Proserpina (Reply #18)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 02:28 PM

32. If Bernie wins the nomination, I will vote for him, but...

… That is not going to happen.

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Response to Proserpina (Reply #18)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 02:33 PM

33. You missed the point of the conversation, ma'am

The OP cites a poll showing that while Mrs. Clinton is defeating all Republican candidates, Senator Sanders is defeating them even more handily.

So, you really can't ask that rhetorical question, or otherwise state that Senator Sanders can't win, without first stating your reasons why the OP is wrong. The OP refutes the meme that Bernie can't win.

The poll simply shows that Trump can't win. And neither can Carson, Cruz nor Rubio. Bernie can beat any them more easily than Mrs. Clinton can. Now, you are saying not only is that poll wrong, but that Donald Trump would beat Bernie Sanders. What makes you say that?

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Response to Jack Rabbit (Reply #33)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 02:50 PM

39. The letter "W"

 

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Response to Jack Rabbit (Reply #33)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 07:02 PM

73. You having been keeping up with this thread have you

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Response to CajunBlazer (Reply #73)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 08:27 PM

77. No, I haven't kept up with this one very much today

I see the usual nonsense about "Bernie can't win" from the usual suspects in the HRC group and I even see some nonsense about "Hillary can't win win" from some of my fellow Sandernistas. That's an awful lot of steer manure that's been trucked in here.

Try this on for size: No Republican can win.

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Response to Jack Rabbit (Reply #77)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 10:54 PM

79. Try this on for size:

Bernie won't have to worry about winning the general election - because he will not win the nomination.

And don't tell me a tale about Barack Obama - Bernie Sanders is no Barack Obama.

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Response to Gamecock Lefty (Reply #15)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 02:00 PM

21. Why would any "good Democrat" want to nominate a "less unelectable" candidate to the GE?

 

Oh that's right, because her name's Hillary Never mind.

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Reply #21)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 02:33 PM

34. What that you or I want to happen is irrelevant ....

.... Hillary will win the nomination. A better question is why would any good Democrat not vote for Hillary in the general election?

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 01:53 PM

17. Here come the claims that political power is more important than "enthusiasm".

 

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #17)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 01:57 PM

20. The only thing that counts, is votes

 

And the power of an idea that sends people who never voted before to the polls to nominate Bernie.

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Response to Proserpina (Reply #20)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 02:15 PM

26. True! My other half has never voted before. She will vote for Bernie this election.

She thinks hillary is completely untrustworthy, and a corporate shill.

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Response to Bubzer (Reply #26)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 07:10 PM

75. Whooooo!!!!! That's one - now all we need is 70 million more!

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 01:56 PM

19. their electability argument no longer holds any water

 

and cannot be used in the future should she win the presidency, when her critics give them the bizness for foisting another 3rdway rightwinger on an unsuspecting/ignorant public.

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Response to stupidicus (Reply #19)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 02:02 PM

22. Ding! Ding! We have a winner. -nt-

 

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Reply #22)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 03:14 PM

54. Dong! we have a loser!

This is Sander's first time out of the box and the Republican properganda machine is still paying very little attention to him. Go back and look at Hillary's favorability numbers before it was clear she was running and the Republicans made their first attempts to slander her.

If they ever start thinking Bernie has even a remote chance of winning the nomination, they will hit him with both properganda barrels. The Republican hit machine will turn Bernie's socialist thing inside out and spread stories that the got his early political ideas from reading Karl Marks and Friedrick Engles, whether that is true or not. As we have see so many times before, the truth has no meaning to thes people. They know would be playing into existing bias. Polls have consistently shown that Americans would rather vote for a Muslim or an atheist for president than a socialist.

They will use anything and everything imaginable against him. Bernie is a very good man, but after the Republican hit team is done with him he will be toast long before the general election.

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Response to stupidicus (Reply #19)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 02:17 PM

27. It never held water.

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Response to merrily (Reply #27)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 02:28 PM

31. there's something to be said for that

 

but the poll validation can't be overcome with whatever BS they'd have used without it

As we know, they seem to think that their hollow declarations reflect reality as opposed to the only real evidence value such has -- a measure of their cranial content in quantity or quality terms.

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 02:26 PM

30. Myopic candidate

Who in this world doesn't want to tax the rich other than the. rich. other things are going on. The war on drugs seems to stop with people talking about marijuana. I'm a therapist who works with young people on heroin. Where is there a voice on this. Weed is the only issue? we've got so much on our plate. When asked about foreign policy Bernie looks adrift. Let's look at the bigger picture as Democrats

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 02:36 PM

35. Perhaps the GOP crossovers admire the sloppy,

wet kiss Bernie planted on the lips of the NRA in his senatorial bid?

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 02:47 PM

37. I find it funny that..

HRC supporters who have posted this same poll boasting about Hillary's lead over Bernie all of the sudden say its meaningless when you look at what else was included in the poll. Things such as favorability, match ups with repubs, support among millennials etc..

It's ok though.. Just remember who to thank when American Democracy is returned to the hands of the people, social security benefits are expanded, we stop losing our sons and daughters in unnecessary foreign conflicts , students are able to pursue higher education regardless of their income and without fear of going broke, and Americans stop dying needlessly because they cannot get the healthcare that they require.



FEEL THE BERN!!

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 02:50 PM

38. This reflects that fact that the GOP have blasted Hillary for 40 years, but left Bernie alone.

The reason the GOP has left Bernie alone is very simple: the GOP wants Bernie to be the Dem nominee. They have repeatedly said so and even encouraged their base to donate to and support Bernie in the primaries. They know he is the way more beatable candidate. If he gets the nomination, which is highly unlikely, THEN the GOP would unleash all of their firepower on Bernie. And they would have a lot to work with.

The fact that they have already unleashed all they have against Hillary and she still leads all of the GOP contenders means that she will lead them in November 2016 as well, and probably by even wider margins once she targets their nominee. She has already proven she can withstand their barrages. Bernie is utterly untested on the national stage, and without the backing and money that Hillary has, would crumble, like McGovern but worse.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #38)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 02:52 PM

41. I don't suppose you have any verifiable proof of this claim?

 

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Response to Proserpina (Reply #41)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 03:32 PM

57. Of course I do. It has already been discussed on DU.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026895894

Just Google "GOP Leader to Republicans: Donate Heavily to Bernie Sanders!”

You'll get articles of Reince Priebus saying that, such as this one:
http://nationalreport.net/gop-leader-republicans-donate-heavily-bernie-sanders/

The National Review made the same entreaty to its readers:

Republicans Should Help Bernie Sanders to Weaken Hillary

For instance, Republicans have a pre-primary opportunity to strengthen Bernie Sanders’s financial position so that he will have ample resources to dog Clinton and turn her into a raging leftist during the primary season.


http://www.nationalreview.com/article/420262/bernie-sanders-republicans-myra-adams

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #57)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 05:13 PM

66. All the better, then. The People will reap the rewards

 

even the Tea Party will be supporting Bernie's second term.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #38)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 02:57 PM

47. That's funny!

 

There's a reason the right-wing-owned mass media crowned Hillary as the nominee years ago. They know they can beat her.

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Response to tabasco (Reply #47)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 04:06 PM

61. The MSM has not given Hillary a pass. Even the NYT constantly runs Hillary-bashing pieces.

The NYT even breathlessly ran "exclusive" excerpts from the right wing trash book, "Clinton Cash." And it inaccurate claimed Hillary was under criminal investigation over her emails. They never issued a formal retraction, just went in and edited the story.

Here is an excellent video by a respected journalist clearly documenting how the NYT botched the email story to trash Hillary:

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #61)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 04:23 PM

64. Do you think the plutocracy-owned media is going to be kind to her?

 

That is entirely incorrect. The right-wing will continue to bash her even as they proclaim she is the nominee. They really want a republican in office, and they know they can beat Clinton. They only want to make her appear as a winner to Democrats.

http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/10/senator-bernie-sanders-and-marc-lamont-hill-lament-medias-coronation-of-hillary-clinton-video/

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Response to tabasco (Reply #64)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 04:35 PM

65. No, the media has never been kind to Hillary. Yet she has survived and is winning.

But it is interesting how your earlier post mouths the "coronation" words of that Daily Caller headline.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #65)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 05:58 PM

69. That's true, but they will do what they can to install her as the nominee.

 

Hence, proclaiming her as the presumptive nominee for years now.

BTW, Clinton has won nothing so far. "Winning" in December 2015 means zilch.

I will certainly vote for Clinton if she is the nominee, but I hope she is not. I see a republican in the White House if she is.

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Response to tabasco (Reply #69)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 06:52 PM

70. The media would not be bashing Hillary if they wanted to "install her" as nominee. nt

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #70)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 11:17 PM

80. Let's be realistic

If a woman of Hillary's ability and experience who is the wife of the best politician in our life time can't beat a socialist loner, or a narcissistic clown, or a no nothing surgeon, or a person who brought the government to a halt -twice, or a wet behind the ears puck who a hasn't done anything yet, or a really poor debater - she does not deserve to be President of the United States of America.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #38)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 02:58 PM

48. Exactly

 

They would have a field day with him in a GE. That is why so many rethug pundits want him to be our nominee. He would lose as bad as McGovern did, and maybe worse, just as you say.

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 02:53 PM

42. This is the real poll that people need to be aware of.

 

Clinton cannot win with these numbers.

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 02:56 PM

45. Nah, not when the rethugs get done with the socialism thing

 

Remember, you guys always say Bernie is not popular because people don't know him? Well, once they find out he is a socialist he would never have a chance in a GE.

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 02:57 PM

46. The Democratic Leadership

…….really, really needs to take this seriously. The DNC machine is again suppressing its own base while putting up a candidate that the Republican base will turn out in huge numbers to defeat. Really, really.

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 03:05 PM

50. Republicans often vote based on hate.....

 

Their hate for the commie socialist from Kenya wasn't enough to stop Obama however many were RAISED on hate for the Clintons. The idea of Bill and Hill back in the White House is enough to get them to carpool to the polls from their trailer park.

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 03:06 PM

51. He would give the party its best chance of winning 2016

 

and sweaping everything red off the map (well, some of it, anyway).

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 03:11 PM

53. "Clinton also leads the top four Republican candidates..."

This is not important.

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 03:16 PM

55. He won't be "electable" if he's not on the ballot.

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Response to George II (Reply #55)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 03:45 PM

59. Her Presumptuousness won't win in the GE

 

Even if her name IS on the ballot.

A spoiler, if ever there was one.

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Reply #59)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 07:05 PM

74. The poll you lik quoting say you are wrong.

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 03:32 PM

56. Hillary can't win--with 9% Independent support...

I don't see how anyone could make the case for Hillary--given that she only has a sliver of Independent support.

A measly 9 percent.

That alone, make the case for why she can't be our nominee.

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 03:51 PM

60. Kicketty Kickin'

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 04:15 PM

63. there is a difference between cunning and intelegence

 

I display neither but see Bernie as intellegent not just cunning .

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 05:20 PM

68. There goes Clinton's strongest argument - electability

 

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 07:35 PM

76. But but I thought polls were meaningless! LOL

Bernie's main problem is that he can't win the nomination. Bernie's numbers would drop like a rock once the Republicans turned the dogs loose. Hillary has taken their best shots. She will prevail- Bernie is a good guy-he won't be the President.

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