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Julian Englis

(2,309 posts)
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 05:14 PM Sep 2012

Just a reminder: When talking about the deficit, call it by its conrect name--"The Bush Deficit"

What's in a name? Quite a bit when you are still having to overcome 8 years of incompetence and 4 years of obstruction.

Remind people why we have this massive deficit by calling it by its correct and accurate name, "The Bush Deficit."

Make sure those who deserve credit for this monumental achievement get full credit.

"The Bush Deficit." See it. See? That rolls off the tongue so naturally you just have say it correctly.

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Just a reminder: When talking about the deficit, call it by its conrect name--"The Bush Deficit" (Original Post) Julian Englis Sep 2012 OP
just like the MrDiaz Sep 2012 #1
Nice one Flashmann Sep 2012 #2
Excellent point! fleur-de-lisa Sep 2012 #3
Amen to that! mother earth Sep 2012 #4
and never use the word "tax" rather use "investment in the future" central scrutinizer Sep 2012 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #6
Obama already extended the tax cuts bigwillq Sep 2012 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #9
And now they're the Obama tax cuts bigwillq Sep 2012 #10
Try to keep in mind... Blanks Sep 2012 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #11
I am not, and have never been opposed to the TPP. Blanks Sep 2012 #20
National Debt Has Exploded On the Republican's Watch Or Because Of Their Unpaid Tax Cuts -graph- mikekohr Sep 2012 #12
Right! It's not the Bush deficit, it's the Reagan/Bush/Bush deficit. Jim Lane Sep 2012 #13
Just keeping it simple. Julian Englis Sep 2012 #14
I admit there's a tradeoff between simplicity and comprehensiveness. Jim Lane Sep 2012 #15
Your correct Julian Englis Sep 2012 #16
Reagan-Bush racked up more debt than all presidents before combined. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2012 #18
Another chart, this one using % of GDP: Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2012 #19
Yes, framing the language, placing Republican negatives in a negative frame. nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2012 #17

Flashmann

(2,140 posts)
2. Nice one
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 05:22 PM
Sep 2012

I use "The bill Boy George ran up",to my wifes crazy teabag aunt....First time I did it,she nearly went ballistic........It was wonderful......

But yeah,The Bush Deficit does have a nice ring.......And it's not as if it were any sort of exageration....

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Blanks

(4,835 posts)
7. Try to keep in mind...
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 05:49 PM
Sep 2012

...that we needed the tax cuts to 'stimulate the economy'.

In case someone wants to talk about Obama's failed policies. If the economy isn't stimulated by now; it probably isnt gonna happen

It may be time to restore the taxes (maybe even increase the top bracket since we have deficits now) and try something different.

Like a jobs bill or something.

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Blanks

(4,835 posts)
20. I am not, and have never been opposed to the TPP.
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 06:32 PM
Sep 2012

or NAFTA for that matter. I believe it is all part of bringing people out of the villages and into factories.

While that may seem like a bad thing; I believe that the larger issue is world population growth.

Nobody wants to see starving children and the one thing that keeps people from having kids (or more kids) is to put them in a factory from 7 to 5 (or whatever) and allow them to make economic choices.

The European countries have had zero population growth for decades and this is because they make these economic choices (have kids or have stuff). If we go into villages with medicines to save small children, and do nothing to address the growing population and dwindling food supply; we've only made their lives worse by saving them.

I think these trade agreements are painful in the short term, but necessary in the long term.

I base this on a theory that I was presented in environmental geography in college. Nowhere have I heard that this is a motivation for these trade agreements, but I believe after all of these years; China's population is stabilizing.

The Chinese have tried all manner of barbaric methods to control their population growth, except putting their young people in factories and allowing them to make economic choices. That seems to be the thing that works.

mikekohr

(2,312 posts)
12. National Debt Has Exploded On the Republican's Watch Or Because Of Their Unpaid Tax Cuts -graph-
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 09:00 PM
Sep 2012
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cached at: http://bureaucountydems.blogspot.com/p/national-debt.html

THE LAST 3 REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTS HAVE ACCOUNTED FOR $9.2 TRILLION OF THE INCREASE IN THE NATIONAL DEBT
Every President, from Truman to Carter, steadily paid down the staggering debt that was run up in our fight against Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan. That pattern came to a screeching halt with Reagan/Bush and Bush. Clinton’s fiscal policy was a brief respite during this orgy of deficit spending.

Clinton's economic policies balanced 5 budgets, which is 5 more balanced budgets than the last 5 Republican presidents combined.

President Obama, like President Clinton, inherited a sea of red ink and a recession from his predecessor. He, like President Clinton, recognizes the importance of getting America back to work and then getting our fiscal house in order.


 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
13. Right! It's not the Bush deficit, it's the Reagan/Bush/Bush deficit.
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 10:43 PM
Sep 2012

Cut taxes, spend huge amounts on the military, and make impassioned speeches about the deficit: Shrub was just copying what Reagan had done and doesn't deserve to get all the deficit (dis)credit himself.

Julian Englis

(2,309 posts)
14. Just keeping it simple.
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 12:22 AM
Sep 2012

While technically you are correct--indeed, we could even call it the Nixon-Reagan-Bush-Bush deficit--simplicity is a virtue. And besides, it's sound right--"The Bush Deficit." Really, that has a ring to it.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
15. I admit there's a tradeoff between simplicity and comprehensiveness.
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 01:42 AM
Sep 2012

True/false quiz: Over the eight years of Ronald Reagan's presidency, he reduced the annual federal budget deficit.

Of course it's false, but I'll bet that a big percentage (quite possibly a majority) of the delegates in Tampa would have answered that it was true. I have a bias toward hammering Reagan for his fiscal disaster. The way these people are rewriting history to glorify him just sickens me.

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