I'll say it...bringing undocumented aliens to the convention is a ballsy move...

[brooklynite]

...and the Republicans are going to erupt tomorrow.

[NV Whino]

1. Brewer will probably implode

[emilyg]

2. I don't like it.

[cash__whatiwant]

5. why? j/w

[emilyg]

9. Guess primely because I am

a document one. I did it the hard, right way.

[Number_9]

14. Right there with you...

Still hacking through the USCIS bureaucracy for my wife as well and we find out only later how much easier it would have been to flaunt the rules and just bring her in.

Play by the rules or accept the consequences of your actions.

[cash__whatiwant]

16. are you an immigrant?

serious question, how hard is it to become a citizen? are undocumented citizens undocumented because they don't want to be or because it takes forever for the process to go through?

[lunamagica]

25. Please, let me answer that for you

How hard it is? Unless you are married to a citizen, direct relative of a citizen, have an unusual skills, or a million bucks to invest, it is impossible to legally become a citizen of the US.

I'm sure some one will chime in with an anecdote from their boss' neighbor's wife cousin's maid who came legally, but what I'm telling you is the truth. Very easy to corroborate this information on the USCIS website.

Come the easy way, eh? Why file when you can hitch a ride, walk, run, among wild animals ans criminals, with the chance of getting robbed, raped and killed....and to end all this fun and easiness, go through a sunny desert where many, many have died partaking on this easy and fun way to immigrate....yeah, easy

It is sad, really, that on a supposedly progressive site, immigrants show so little compassion towards others whose lives have taken them, on a different path, and get so self-righteous and indignant at the thought that others have it "easy"

ETA: To the OP, yes, a ballsy move, Kudos to the DNC, for having a corageous and compassionate heart!

[Kali]

20. dying in the desert is pretty hard too

I see the ones doing it the "easy" way all the time. As hard as it may have been for you, it does not make the struggle some of these people endure anything near "easy".

[emilyg]

27. That may be so. Our goal was to

embrace our new country legally and with respect. We were in a DP camp for years before our turn came.

[Kali]

29. I know both sides of this. I have several friends who immigrated from Europe

and my father's wife is in the process. I know what hassles and intrusive crap they had/have to go through. I know the money involved. I do not envy that task any more than I envy the ones who have no possibility to do it that way. I have helped the man who walked three days in his "good" hard leather shoes and vomited the water I gave him because he was so tired. I have given meals and water to dozens of people walking across the rugged high desert to get to a menial job that many have paid 1000s to get to. I know of a man who worked 3 jobs and lived with 4 other men in a one bedroom apt for 4 or 5 YEARS until he could bring his wife, an ATTORNEY, and his kids here. Those kids grew up here, did well in school, the oldest son could have had a full ride college scholarship if it weren't for a simple piece of paper. Should they be punished because thier parents did all they could to make a better life for them?

People don't walk across the desert and live in hiding, fearful some bigot may turn them in or some AZ cop profiling will check their status, working (often multiple) shitty jobs for low pay always at risk of scumbag employers or raids because it is the easy way to survive. They do it because it is the ONLY way to survive.

the attitude that THEY are to blame for the conditions that bring them here, for the conditions that they have to endure, is what saddens me. the seeming lack of compassion for a fellow traveler and inability to understand that they are not in some competition with us but are struggling too, that the real villian is looking down in delight at the fight amongst those who should be allies while they count their money and ship the profits off to hidden locations to help no one but themselves.

[azmom]

30. People are clueless

to the plight of many of the poor in other parts of the country. If the only choice is crossing a border illegally to be able to work to feed your kids or to watch them starve. The choice is an easy one.

[DURHAM D]

7. Really? Why?

[Booster]

10. I tend to agree with you on this. We can't pick and choose which laws we like so will ignore and

which laws we don't like so will enforce. What part of "illegal alien" do we not get? To me that was a subject that should not have even been brought up - it just stokes the fire in what they are saying is a very close election, although I find that hard to believe. To me it's just too risky.

[emilyg]

12. Greatly annoys people like

me who did it the hard, legal way.

[abumbyanyothername]

17. These are not people who made a choice to come here.

They were brought here as small children.

They had no choice.

[Kali]

21. it has to do with the DEMOCRATIC ideals of fairness

and compassion. These kids were brought here and have known no other home. Greedy right wing assholes think they should be deported for the simple civil offense their parents have committed.

yes we DO choose which laws we enforce, it happens all the time. do you seriously think every fucking law in the land gets enforced. I bet you break a half dozen every freaking day. give me a break.

[emilyg]

23. At my age it would be hard to

break laws every freakin' day.

[kestrel91316]

13. I have no objection to this young woman (who was brought here as a child by her parents and

had no say in the matter) speaking tonight. And she is a stellar example of the injustice of trying to send people like her back to a country she feels no attachment to.

And I say this as someone who is inclined to aggressively deport folks who come here illegally of their own volition.

[Booster]

18. I don't have any problem with the young woman either. Just think it's not a good move by the Dems.

[DURHAM D]

22. So do you have a problem with Obama's Executive Order

granting these young people permission to stay in the U.S. for awhile?

"Obama’s selection of Veliz to speak at the DNC was a clear reach to the Latino voters his re-election bid needs, and an opportunity to remind them of his own immigration policy: He signed an executive order last month that grants many undocumented youth who entered the country illegally as children — people who would be eligible for the DREAM Act if it passed — temporary permission to stay in the U.S. and work."

http://www.texastribune.org/texas-politics/2012-presidential-election/texan-is-dncs-first-undocumented-speaker/


Really?

[MrSlayer]

3. Ballsy if it doesn't hurt.

Stupid if it does. This is a very touchy issue.

[Merlot]

8. only touchy for repubs

most Americans support the dream act,

[abumbyanyothername]

4. Republican eruption

That is the plan.

Usually, I disdain gotcha politics.

But in this case, exposing their hate for what it is will be helpful to the country as a whole.

[graywarrior]

11. Agreed. Shine a light on it!

[SoonerPride]

6. The DREAM act should get bipartisan support

the fact that it does't loses Latinos for the reupblicans for a generation or more.

bring it on

[Ptah]

15. Puente's "Undocubus" Riders Arrested Outside Democratic National Convention

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2012/09/puentes_undocubus_riders_arres.php

Undocumented immigrants who rode across country on the "Undocubus" to protest immigration-related
deportations were arrested outside the Democratic National Convention yesterday.

The "No Papers No Fear" mission is supposed to make the point that Dems are as unfavorable to the
"Undocubus" riders as Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio when it comes to immigration enforcement.

According to our New York sister paper, the Village Voice, the activists were dropped off in a Charlotte
intersection, and sat on a banner in the intersection while holding up signs that said "Undocumented."

From the Voice:

As the police waited, a hard rain began to fall, soaking police, press and protesters alike. Still, the
standoff remained. Delegates and conventioneers on their way to the convention center stopped and
stared, trying to understand what was happening. Protesters chanted "No papers, no fear! Dignity is
standing here!" and "Obama! Escucha! Estamos en la lucha!"

[pipoman]

19. Time for an amnesty program for all

undocumented Latin American people.

[emilyg]

24. You going to find them jobs?

[lunamagica]

26. They are already working, so no problem there/eom

/

[pipoman]

28. Yep, as has already been replied

they are already working. They came here to try to make a better life for their families, something which should be celebrated.