Hillary's Rahm Problem
Editorial: Hillarys Rahm problem
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Today, 7:24 PM ET
Democratic presidential frontrunner Hillary Clinton appears to be putting politics ahead of justice when it comes to Chicago mayor and former top Clinton and Obama White House aide Rahm Emanuel.
So far Clinton, who vowed to replenish our depleted reservoirs of trust between law enforcement and communities of color, has only said, via a spokesman, that she is deeply troubled by the shooting and the outstanding questions related to both the shooting and the video.
As to Emanuel? She knows Mayor Emanuel loves Chicago, and is sure he wants to do all he can to restore trust in the Chicago Police Department.
If Clinton is serious about black lives and not just black votes this is a moment of truth.
It's about to get ugly for Rahm, and the last thing any of our Democratic candidates need is to be associated with him.
And the fact that any of them were LONG before this does not speak well of them anyway.
When I first heard Obama had appointed him chief of staff is the moment I realized we weren't going to get as much "hope and change" out of Obama as I had "hoped."
And, I was an early Obama supporter. I still like him, mind you, but he didn't shake up the insiders as much as most wanted him to do.
With public subsidies for private insurance masquerading as healthcare and it's been all downhill since.
so I was ok with it for a little while...until I discovered that Rahm was behind booting Howard Dean out of the DNC.
I still support President Obama completely, but this was one of his really bad choices.
You can try your hardest to change the topic, but this is about a murder that was covered up by one of Clinton's allies.
Response to Bjorn Against (Reply #8)
The Brady Bill was not a bill solely about background checks.
Or the Iraq Liberation Act, his leading role in blocking a path to citizenship for over ten million people, his direct support of arming foreign armies, the F-35, the Commodity Futures Modernization Act, his old writings, Sanders wife being appointed to two commissions by Schumlin shortly after Sanders stumped for him, the fact he is the career politician running, his colleagues not endorsing him, etc... Quiet down over there.
And there is a link in this thread to prove it is a lie. But keep lying in an effort to defend Hiĺlary for standing behind a guy who covered up a murder, you are only making yourself and your candidate look bad.
Next time try not to be so obvious and you might get away with it.
Bernie has said many times that he supports stronger background checks and an assault weapons ban, he has voted for those things as well.
Wednesday, April 17, 2013
WASHINGTON, April 17 Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) today voted for expanded background checks on gun buyers and for a ban on assault weapons but the Senate rejected those central planks of legislation inspired by the shootings of 20 first-grade students and six teachers in Newtown, Conn.
Nobody believes that gun control by itself is going to end the horrors we have seen in Newtown, Conn., Aurora, Colo., Blacksburg, Va., Tucson, Ariz. and other American communities, Sanders said. There is a growing consensus, however, in Vermont and across America that we have got to do as much as we can to end the cold-blooded, mass murders of innocent people. I believe very strongly that we also have got to address the mental health crisis in our country and make certain that help is available for people who may be a danger to themselves and others, Sanders added.
The amendment on expanded background checks needed 60 votes to pass but only 54 senators voted for it. To my mind it makes common sense to keep these weapons out of the hands of people with criminal records or mental health histories, Sanders said.
Under current federal law, background checks are not performed for tens of thousands of sales up to 40 percent of all gun transfers at gun shows or over the Internet. The amendment would have required background checks for all gun sales in commercial settings regardless of whether the seller is a licensed dealer. The compromise proposal would have exempted sales between family, friends, and neighbors.
In a separate roll call, the Senate rejected a proposal to ban assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. That proposal was defeated by a vote of 60 to 40.
That's such a blatant misrepresentation..
That would be like saying Hillary believes that "marriage is a sacred union between a man and a woman" and want to annul all same sex marriages..
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If the city gave away millions of dollars to keep the family quiet and if Rahm did not know about it then he is extremely incompetent.
He is going down because of his knowledge of a video showing the blatant murder of a young man by a police officer.
I used to live there. The Laquan cover-up is no surprise whatsoever to me.
The Brady Bill is irrelevant to this case. THE COP MURDERED LAQUAN WITH HIS SERVICE WEAPON. The Brady Bill would have done nothing to restrain police from using their service weapons in inappropriate situations.
The problem is this: 1) corrupt Chicago police think they can do whatever they want at the expense of the citizens they are supposed to serve (and the Black community bears the brunt of this), 2) corrupt Chicago politicians cover up the crimes committed by their own police department, and 3) neither cops nor politicians are held accountable. And that is barely scratching the surface.
The problem for Hillary is that she is closely associated with one of those corrupt Chicago politicians, because she worked closely with him during his time as President Obama's Chief of Staff. And now Hillary is showing the corrupt Chicago politician some "professional courtesy" by trying to dodge and deflect the issue of corrupt cops and cover-ups, rather than leave her friend out to dry by condemning the cover-up. Wink wink, nod nod.
Bernie never did play the "professional courtesy" insider connections game. He can condemn it as a person of integrity, from the outside looking in.
You can try to argue that the Hillary-Rahm relationship is innuendo, but there were those of us who knew he had no business anywhere near the White House from before the day he was appointed. I do believe it is fair to judge people by the company they keep.
I know they also worked together before that on assorted Democratic congressional campaign committees but I trust you understand that I do not want to spend my Friday night wading into that cesspool.
Suffice it to say that I knew Rahm's "promotion" from congresscritter to CoS was a very, very bad idea immediately upon the appointment. Sure enough, it turned out to be a very, very bad idea.
Why not put effort on both issues
This like when conservatives say "what about black on black crime
And I can pay attention to both simultaneously. That does not, however, mean they should be conflated.
I was replying to someone who was attempting to use Brady Bill votes that had nothing to do with the police cover-up to deflect attention from such cover-up (and by extension, who might be implicated therein).
And the Clintons have had connections to the Rahmbo for almost as long as I've been alive.
some Hillary supporting mayor covering up a murder committed by cops? That's right, nothing. You are just trying to cover for the Rahm/Hillary wing of the party.
Every. Single. Time.
When police are shooting black people and the citizens are asking for transparency ,yet officials ignore that call I think that is major problem
You posted in the wrong thread.
This one is about Chicago cops killing black men. BLM's and other activist group's in Chicago primary goal right now is cleaning house, including Rahm. Especially Rahm.
Rahm to get out. They were chanting he had to go over and over... so yeah... I guess there's that.
family, Kissinger, dimon, trump, and so on. OTOH if she suddenly breaks up with Rahm, it pisses him off and presents as yet another flip flop. Plus no one will believe it.
It would be something along the lines of accomplice after the fact. I believe there is some kind of legal distinction. I'm sure Rahm has his ass covered pretty well. He's the lefts version of Rove in my opinion. I'd use him to help run a campaign but don't want him in any type of elected position. The next week or two will be interesting with him. I only imagine pressure for him to resign increasing.
Most people don't trust her. The idea that she has any hope at all of creating trust between law enforcement and communities of color (or between any 2 groups no matter who they might be) is not a reasonable one.
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The city of Chicago offered 5 Million to the family of Laquan MacDonald pre-emptively. They had not even sued yetif they were going to at all before the video surfaced. 5 Million. That's a lot.
There is no way the Mayor of Chicago would allow 5M to go out to some poor, powerless family, when the City has a budget shortfallunless he had seen the video and wanted to buy them off.
Unless he is enormously incompetent then there is no way he could not have noticed a five million dollar settlement, but while Rahm has a lot of bad traits incompetence is not one of them. He knew, and the provision in the settlement that requires the family to remain silent proves there was a cover up.
I forgot about the "silence" clause. It was a sheer pay-off cover up and Rahm had to know. There will be a trail of some sort I think.
Known about that big settlement? And shouldn't many people's curiosity have been piqued by the fact that the city was giving a big settlement BEFORE the victim's family had even sued?
EVERYONE who knew about the video and the scrubbing of the Burger King video should be charged with obstruction of justice or similar charges. Plus all the cops on the scene, of course,
You folks simply amaze me with how far you'll strain yourselves to find something to smear Hillary with.
This morning she was castigated because she wasn't whining about more debates, and this evening she is apparently being accused of not publically saying "fuck you" to Rahm Emanuel even as she criticized the issue.
Has Bernie publically said "Rahm, you suck" and I missed it or something?
Bernie thinks he should resign, but despite the strong evidence that Rahm was involved in a murder coverup Hillary thinks he should remain in office.
Do you really want to tell me that Hillary is doing the right thing here?
Thanks for calling her on it.
He equivocated just like you're accusing Hillary of doing.
Bernie is not in Rahm's head, thank God, to know what he really knows, but Bernie, unequivocally, said that if what's in the media is true, Rahm should resign.
Whether you want to take that at face value or not, it's still a far, far, far cry from Clinton hoping he says in office.
"Any elected official with knowledge...."
Yeah, that's the same weak sauce you're accusing Hillary of. Again, any port in a storm for you guys. SMH.
Though Sanders never mentioned his name, the comments appeared aimed at Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel, a long-time ally of Bill and Hillary Clinton and former White House chief of staff to President Barack Obama.
Any elected official with knowledge that the tape was being suppressed or improperly withheld should resign. No one should be shielded by power or position, Sanders said in a statement.
We all know that Rahm knew. Rham's got to go. If Hillary knew how to lead, or actually gave a shit about black lives, she would call for Rahm's head to.
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People who, while parading as progressives, needlessly close over 50 schools in disadvantaged areas and then turn over educational policy to Eli Broad Academy gestapo flunkies.
Among many other duplicitous actions, unfortunately.
attitude that hurts us all in the long run.
and Reichpublican mob rule - until Bernie came along, that is.
We can only hope the timing is right; it has to be.
a city through privatization.
Scroll down to look at the privatization under Rahm.
Who benfits? Hillary's backers and donors.
to get enough distance away from Ram Emanuel...a person (?) who should never have been given any public office, but managed to screw over large segments of the population...
I'd like to see them!
Let me know when you do!
If the video had been public, he might have lost. That guy is trash.
And Hillary is standing by her pal. Tells you something.
Crucifixion of Christ"? (Post76)
That was SUCH a lovely post.
I deleted it because it was harsh.
Get what I said right please.
Over-the-top-bullshit about the crucifixion of Christ. Thanks for clarifying.
to restore trust in the Chicago Police Department"
The notion that Emanuel would be someone who could restore trust is laughably absurd, yet that's HRC's current response to this situation. It's classic noncommital weasel-speak, and it will come back to bite her in the ass.
under the bus because he know where all the skeletons are buried.
Every official who knew about the mrder of that young boy and covered it up should be charged with obstruction of justice or worse.