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Fri Dec 4, 2015, 08:04 PM

Hillary's Rahm Problem


Editorial: Hillary’s Rahm problem
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Today, 7:24 PM ET

Democratic presidential frontrunner Hillary Clinton appears to be putting politics ahead of justice when it comes to Chicago mayor and former top Clinton and Obama White House aide Rahm Emanuel.

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So far Clinton, who vowed to “replenish our depleted reservoirs of trust” between law enforcement and communities of color, has only said, via a spokesman, that she is “deeply troubled” by the shooting and “the outstanding questions related to both the shooting and the video.”

As to Emanuel? “She knows Mayor Emanuel loves Chicago, and is sure he wants to do all he can to restore trust in the Chicago Police Department.”

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If Clinton is serious about black lives — and not just black votes — this is a moment of truth.


http://m.nydailynews.com/opinion/editorial-hillary-rahm-problem-article-1.2455978

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Bjorn Against Dec 2015 OP
MerryBlooms Dec 2015 #1
ibegurpard Dec 2015 #3
MerryBlooms Dec 2015 #4
Fawke Em Dec 2015 #56
ibegurpard Dec 2015 #93
BlueCaliDem Dec 2015 #101
roguevalley Dec 2015 #64
99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #2
Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #5
ibegurpard Dec 2015 #6
Bjorn Against Dec 2015 #8
Post removed Dec 2015 #9
ibegurpard Dec 2015 #10
Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #15
ibegurpard Dec 2015 #17
Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #21
beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #23
ibegurpard Dec 2015 #29
ESKD Dec 2015 #46
kath Dec 2015 #75
840high Dec 2015 #103
NCTraveler Dec 2015 #47
roguevalley Dec 2015 #65
JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #78
friendly_iconoclast Dec 2015 #81
Bjorn Against Dec 2015 #18
beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #20
Bjorn Against Dec 2015 #12
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ejbr Dec 2015 #40
raindaddy Dec 2015 #63
beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #74
JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #77
friendly_iconoclast Dec 2015 #79
kath Dec 2015 #106
Bread and Circus Dec 2015 #24
Bjorn Against Dec 2015 #28
Bread and Circus Dec 2015 #35
Fawke Em Dec 2015 #11
strategery blunder Dec 2015 #19
ibegurpard Dec 2015 #22
strategery blunder Dec 2015 #32
Bread and Circus Dec 2015 #94
Truprogressive85 Dec 2015 #37
strategery blunder Dec 2015 #38
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Cheese Sandwich Dec 2015 #73
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Doctor_J Dec 2015 #16
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Response to Bjorn Against (Original post)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 08:08 PM

1. I read earlier today that Clinton is distancing herself from Rahm, that would be the smart move.

It's about to get ugly for Rahm, and the last thing any of our Democratic candidates need is to be associated with him.

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Response to MerryBlooms (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 08:10 PM

3. They shouldn't be associated with him anyway

And the fact that any of them were LONG before this does not speak well of them anyway.

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Response to ibegurpard (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 08:12 PM

4. Yeah, I hear ya. :(

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Response to ibegurpard (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 10:38 PM

56. Amen.

When I first heard Obama had appointed him chief of staff is the moment I realized we weren't going to get as much "hope and change" out of Obama as I had "hoped."

And, I was an early Obama supporter. I still like him, mind you, but he didn't shake up the insiders as much as most wanted him to do.

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Response to Fawke Em (Reply #56)

Sat Dec 5, 2015, 12:09 AM

93. He lost me

With public subsidies for private insurance masquerading as healthcare and it's been all downhill since.

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Response to Fawke Em (Reply #56)

Sat Dec 5, 2015, 12:39 AM

101. Yeah, I thought that was a bad choice, too. But "No Drama Obama" needed an attack dog

so I was ok with it for a little while...until I discovered that Rahm was behind booting Howard Dean out of the DNC.

I still support President Obama completely, but this was one of his really bad choices.

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Response to MerryBlooms (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 10:53 PM

64. I loathe the expression 'deeply troubled'. it usually means they aren't.

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Response to Bjorn Against (Original post)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 08:09 PM

2. K&R - As usual, Hillary's campaign rhetoric rings hollow when the chips are down. nt

 

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #5)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 08:14 PM

6. Call Rahm

Tell him to go with that.
I beg you!

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #5)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 08:17 PM

8. Sorry, but it is not Bernie who is saying a guy who covered up a murder "Loves Chicago"

You can try your hardest to change the topic, but this is about a murder that was covered up by one of Clinton's allies.

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Response to Post removed (Reply #9)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 08:28 PM

10. That is either a mistake on your part or a lie.

Which is it?

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #15)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 08:46 PM

17. So lie it is.

See the posts below me refuting it.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #21)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 08:58 PM

23. He voted against it because he believed background checks should be handled by the states:

Sanders voted against the pro-gun-control Brady Bill, writing that he believes states, not the federal government, can handle waiting periods for handguns. In 1994, he voted yes on an assault weapons ban. He has voted to ban some lawsuits against gun manufacturers and for the Manchin-Toomey legislation expanding federal background checks.

http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Bernie_Sanders_Gun_Control.htm



Try again.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #21)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 09:02 PM

29. you lied about saying he doesn't support background checks.

The Brady Bill was not a bill solely about background checks.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #21)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 10:07 PM

46. Dense.

 

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Response to ESKD (Reply #46)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 11:18 PM

75. Extremely.

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Response to ESKD (Reply #46)

Sat Dec 5, 2015, 01:29 AM

103. Very.

 

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #21)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 10:13 PM

47. You aren't suppose to mention that.

 

Or the Iraq Liberation Act, his leading role in blocking a path to citizenship for over ten million people, his direct support of arming foreign armies, the F-35, the Commodity Futures Modernization Act, his old writings, Sanders wife being appointed to two commissions by Schumlin shortly after Sanders stumped for him, the fact he is the career politician running, his colleagues not endorsing him, etc... Quiet down over there.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #47)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 10:56 PM

65. how about clinton voting for the war that should have never happened?

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #47)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 11:25 PM

78. A better reason not to mention it is because it is an outright fabrication.

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Response to JonLeibowitz (Reply #78)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 11:31 PM

81. A fabrication that just got hidden...

 

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #15)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 08:48 PM

18. You said he opposed background checks, that is a lie

And there is a link in this thread to prove it is a lie. But keep lying in an effort to defend Hiĺlary for standing behind a guy who covered up a murder, you are only making yourself and your candidate look bad.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #15)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 08:54 PM

20. You said he opposes background checks and that is a lie, see post 13.

Next time try not to be so obvious and you might get away with it.

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Response to Post removed (Reply #9)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 08:33 PM

12. That is absolutely false

Bernie has said many times that he supports stronger background checks and an assault weapons ban, he has voted for those things as well.

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Response to Post removed (Reply #9)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 08:37 PM

13. That is a lie. He has voted for background checks and assault weapons bans.

Sanders Votes for Background Checks, Assault Weapons Ban
Wednesday, April 17, 2013

WASHINGTON, April 17 – Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) today voted for expanded background checks on gun buyers and for a ban on assault weapons but the Senate rejected those central planks of legislation inspired by the shootings of 20 first-grade students and six teachers in Newtown, Conn.

“Nobody believes that gun control by itself is going to end the horrors we have seen in Newtown, Conn., Aurora, Colo., Blacksburg, Va., Tucson, Ariz. and other American communities,” Sanders said. “There is a growing consensus, however, in Vermont and across America that we have got to do as much as we can to end the cold-blooded, mass murders of innocent people. I believe very strongly that we also have got to address the mental health crisis in our country and make certain that help is available for people who may be a danger to themselves and others,” Sanders added.

The amendment on expanded background checks needed 60 votes to pass but only 54 senators voted for it. “To my mind it makes common sense to keep these weapons out of the hands of people with criminal records or mental health histories,” Sanders said.

Under current federal law, background checks are not performed for tens of thousands of sales – up to 40 percent of all gun transfers – at gun shows or over the Internet. The amendment would have required background checks for all gun sales in commercial settings regardless of whether the seller is a licensed dealer. The compromise proposal would have exempted sales between “family, friends, and neighbors.”

In a separate roll call, the Senate rejected a proposal to ban assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. That proposal was defeated by a vote of 60 to 40.

http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/sanders-votes-for-background-checks-assault-weapons-ban

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Response to Post removed (Reply #9)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 09:36 PM

40. !!!!

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Response to Post removed (Reply #9)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 10:51 PM

63. "Sander's wants guns in the streets"

That's such a blatant misrepresentation..

That would be like saying Hillary believes that "marriage is a sacred union between a man and a woman" and want to annul all same sex marriages..

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Response to raindaddy (Reply #63)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 11:14 PM

74. I think I'm going to add that to the big book of smears.

Despicable comment.

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Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #74)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 11:23 PM

77. They certainly try to outdo each other though! Keep up the good work on the book of smears. n/t

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Response to JonLeibowitz (Reply #77)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 11:26 PM

79. Thinkingaboutit will be thinking about it elsewhere: 7-0 vote to hide that libel

 

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Response to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #79)

Sat Dec 5, 2015, 02:30 AM

106. Despite the name, that one is not much of a thinker.

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Response to Bjorn Against (Reply #8)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 08:58 PM

24. Is it proven beyond a doubt Rahm was part of the cover up?

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Response to Bread and Circus (Reply #24)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 09:02 PM

28. A five million dollar settlement was handed out in this case

Last edited Fri Dec 4, 2015, 11:46 PM - Edit history (1)

If the city gave away millions of dollars to keep the family quiet and if Rahm did not know about it then he is extremely incompetent.

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Response to Bjorn Against (Reply #28)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 09:04 PM

35. Interesting. We live in a very corrupt world.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #5)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 08:31 PM

11. And that has nothing to do with why Rahm is on the hot seat.

He is going down because of his knowledge of a video showing the blatant murder of a young man by a police officer.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #5)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 08:53 PM

19. Chicago gun violence is more of a problem for corrupt Chicago politicians.

I used to live there. The Laquan cover-up is no surprise whatsoever to me.

The Brady Bill is irrelevant to this case. THE COP MURDERED LAQUAN WITH HIS SERVICE WEAPON. The Brady Bill would have done nothing to restrain police from using their service weapons in inappropriate situations.

The problem is this: 1) corrupt Chicago police think they can do whatever they want at the expense of the citizens they are supposed to serve (and the Black community bears the brunt of this), 2) corrupt Chicago politicians cover up the crimes committed by their own police department, and 3) neither cops nor politicians are held accountable. And that is barely scratching the surface.

The problem for Hillary is that she is closely associated with one of those corrupt Chicago politicians, because she worked closely with him during his time as President Obama's Chief of Staff. And now Hillary is showing the corrupt Chicago politician some "professional courtesy" by trying to dodge and deflect the issue of corrupt cops and cover-ups, rather than leave her friend out to dry by condemning the cover-up. Wink wink, nod nod.

Bernie never did play the "professional courtesy" insider connections game. He can condemn it as a person of integrity, from the outside looking in.

You can try to argue that the Hillary-Rahm relationship is innuendo, but there were those of us who knew he had no business anywhere near the White House from before the day he was appointed. I do believe it is fair to judge people by the company they keep.

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Response to strategery blunder (Reply #19)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 08:56 PM

22. Oh she worked closely with him long before that

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Response to ibegurpard (Reply #22)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 09:04 PM

32. I did say I was barely scratching the surface in that post ;)

I know they also worked together before that on assorted Democratic congressional campaign committees but I trust you understand that I do not want to spend my Friday night wading into that cesspool.

Suffice it to say that I knew Rahm's "promotion" from congresscritter to CoS was a very, very bad idea immediately upon the appointment. Sure enough, it turned out to be a very, very bad idea.

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Response to strategery blunder (Reply #32)

Sat Dec 5, 2015, 12:09 AM

94. Rahm Emanuel worked for Bill Clinton

From Wiki:

Working early in his career in Democratic politics, Emanuel was appointed as director of the finance committee for Bill Clinton's 1992 presidential campaign. In 1993, he joined the Clinton administration, where he served as the Assistant to the President for Political Affairs and as the Senior Advisor to the President for Policy and Strategy before resigning in 1998.

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Response to strategery blunder (Reply #19)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 09:06 PM

37. So ignore a possible cover up and focus on gun violence right?

Why not put effort on both issues

This like when conservatives say "what about black on black crime

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Response to Truprogressive85 (Reply #37)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 09:10 PM

38. Those are two separate issues

And I can pay attention to both simultaneously. That does not, however, mean they should be conflated.

I was replying to someone who was attempting to use Brady Bill votes that had nothing to do with the police cover-up to deflect attention from such cover-up (and by extension, who might be implicated therein).

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Response to strategery blunder (Reply #19)

Sat Dec 5, 2015, 12:06 AM

91. And then they use $5,000,000 of taxpayer money to cover up the crime. Crazy.

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Response to strategery blunder (Reply #19)

Sat Dec 5, 2015, 12:07 AM

92. The Clinton's and Rahm go way back (way before Obama)

From wiki:

Working early in his career in Democratic politics, Emanuel was appointed as director of the finance committee for Bill Clinton's 1992 presidential campaign. In 1993, he joined the Clinton administration, where he served as the Assistant to the President for Political Affairs and as the Senior Advisor to the President for Policy and Strategy before resigning in 1998.

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Response to Bread and Circus (Reply #92)

Sat Dec 5, 2015, 12:26 AM

97. Yeah I was speaking from my experience living there

And the Clintons have had connections to the Rahmbo for almost as long as I've been alive.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #5)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 09:01 PM

27. What the hell does gun control have to do with

some Hillary supporting mayor covering up a murder committed by cops? That's right, nothing. You are just trying to cover for the Rahm/Hillary wing of the party.

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Response to jfern (Reply #27)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 09:03 PM

30. It's all he's got

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Response to ibegurpard (Reply #30)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 10:31 PM

52. He was thinking about it.

 

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Response to jfern (Reply #27)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 09:04 PM

34. That's their default position, whenever they don't have a defense they bring up gunz!

Every. Single. Time.

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Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #34)

Sat Dec 5, 2015, 12:10 AM

95. That or a poll.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #5)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 09:03 PM

31. Gun violence is a problem in Chicago yes but

When police are shooting black people and the citizens are asking for transparency ,yet officials ignore that call I think that is major problem

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #5)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 10:30 PM

51. This isn't about gun violence, it is about Rahm covering for cop murderers.

 

You posted in the wrong thread.

This one is about Chicago cops killing black men. BLM's and other activist group's in Chicago primary goal right now is cleaning house, including Rahm. Especially Rahm.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #5)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 11:12 PM

73. Would the Brady Bill have banned guns from murderous cops?

 

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Reply #73)

Sat Dec 5, 2015, 12:34 AM

100. I thought it was about Rahm being close to the Clinton's and posing a problem?

 

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Response to ViseGrip (Reply #100)

Sat Dec 5, 2015, 01:02 AM

102. I was responding to a post that was saying hey it's Bernie's fault because he voted against the

 

Brady Bill

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Response to Bjorn Against (Original post)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 08:15 PM

7. Rahm is one of their own. What else could she say?

 

eom

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Response to Bjorn Against (Original post)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 08:38 PM

14. I was there at the Chicago protests on the Friday after Thanksgiving... they really wanted...

Rahm to get out. They were chanting he had to go over and over... so yeah... I guess there's that.

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Response to Bjorn Against (Original post)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 08:43 PM

16. best for her to stay the course. her supporters don't care about her friendships with the Bush

 

family, Kissinger, dimon, trump, and so on. OTOH if she suddenly breaks up with Rahm, it pisses him off and presents as yet another flip flop. Plus no one will believe it.

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Response to Bjorn Against (Original post)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 08:59 PM

25. If you cover up a known murder, doesn't that make you and accomplice to the crime?

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Response to Bread and Circus (Reply #25)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 10:21 PM

48. I believe...

 

It would be something along the lines of accomplice after the fact. I believe there is some kind of legal distinction. I'm sure Rahm has his ass covered pretty well. He's the lefts version of Rove in my opinion. I'd use him to help run a campaign but don't want him in any type of elected position. The next week or two will be interesting with him. I only imagine pressure for him to resign increasing.

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Response to Bjorn Against (Original post)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 08:59 PM

26. The person to replenish our depleted reservoirs of trust sure isn't Hillary.

 


Most people don't trust her. The idea that she has any hope at all of creating trust between law enforcement and communities of color (or between any 2 groups no matter who they might be) is not a reasonable one.



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Response to Motown_Johnny (Reply #26)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 09:04 PM

33. + 1,000,000,000 - What You Said !!!

 


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Response to Bjorn Against (Original post)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 09:04 PM

36. HUGE K & R !!!

 


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Response to Bjorn Against (Original post)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 09:25 PM

39. K&R! n/t

 

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Response to Bjorn Against (Original post)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 09:37 PM

41. Rahm Knew. Here's why.

Last edited Sat Dec 5, 2015, 09:23 PM - Edit history (1)

The city of Chicago offered 5 Million to the family of Laquan MacDonald pre-emptively. They had not even sued yet—if they were going to at all before the video surfaced. 5 Million. That's a lot.

There is no way the Mayor of Chicago would allow 5M to go out to some poor, powerless family, when the City has a budget shortfall—unless he had seen the video and wanted to buy them off.


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Response to zentrum (Reply #41)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 09:44 PM

42. Yes, I think that settlement is the smoking gun that ties Rahm to this

Unless he is enormously incompetent then there is no way he could not have noticed a five million dollar settlement, but while Rahm has a lot of bad traits incompetence is not one of them. He knew, and the provision in the settlement that requires the family to remain silent proves there was a cover up.

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Response to Bjorn Against (Reply #42)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 10:04 PM

45. Yes--

…I forgot about the "silence" clause. It was a sheer pay-off cover up and Rahm had to know. There will be a trail of some sort I think.

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Response to Bjorn Against (Reply #42)

Sat Dec 5, 2015, 02:39 AM

107. Yep, sure seems like a smoking gun to me. What about the Board of Alderman - wouldn't they have

Known about that big settlement? And shouldn't many people's curiosity have been piqued by the fact that the city was giving a big settlement BEFORE the victim's family had even sued?

EVERYONE who knew about the video and the scrubbing of the Burger King video should be charged with obstruction of justice or similar charges. Plus all the cops on the scene, of course,

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Response to zentrum (Reply #41)

Sat Dec 5, 2015, 01:33 AM

104. yep

 

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Response to Bjorn Against (Original post)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 09:50 PM

43. Oh good lord

 

You folks simply amaze me with how far you'll strain yourselves to find something to smear Hillary with.

This morning she was castigated because she wasn't whining about more debates, and this evening she is apparently being accused of not publically saying "fuck you" to Rahm Emanuel even as she criticized the issue.

Has Bernie publically said "Rahm, you suck" and I missed it or something?

SMH

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Response to MaggieD (Reply #43)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 09:53 PM

44. Why can't she come out and forcefully denounce Rahm and call for his ouster?

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Response to Bread and Circus (Reply #44)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 10:26 PM

50. Same reason Bernie doesn't

 

It would look a purely political move.

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Response to MaggieD (Reply #50)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 10:34 PM

54. Bernie has called for Emanuel to resign

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251874542

Bernie thinks he should resign, but despite the strong evidence that Rahm was involved in a murder coverup Hillary thinks he should remain in office.

Do you really want to tell me that Hillary is doing the right thing here?

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Response to Bjorn Against (Reply #54)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 10:43 PM

60. That poster tends to mouth-off first and find out real info later.

Thanks for calling her on it.

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Response to Fawke Em (Reply #60)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 11:00 PM

68. Except he didn't call for Emanuel to resign

 

He equivocated just like you're accusing Hillary of doing.

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Response to MaggieD (Reply #68)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 11:28 PM

80. Yeah, basically he did.

Bernie is not in Rahm's head, thank God, to know what he really knows, but Bernie, unequivocally, said that if what's in the media is true, Rahm should resign.

Whether you want to take that at face value or not, it's still a far, far, far cry from Clinton hoping he says in office.

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Response to Fawke Em (Reply #80)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 11:36 PM

84. LOL! Ok

 

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Response to Bjorn Against (Reply #54)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 10:59 PM

67. LOL!

 

"Any elected official with knowledge...."

Yeah, that's the same weak sauce you're accusing Hillary of. Again, any port in a storm for you guys. SMH.

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Response to MaggieD (Reply #43)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 10:34 PM

53. Glad you asked! A learning moment for you.

 

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/12/04/bernie-sanders-weighs-in-on-chicago-police-controversy/

Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders said Friday that any official involved with suppressing the release of a video of the shooting death of a black teen by a white Chicago police officer should be “held accountable” and, if necessary, resign.

Though Sanders never mentioned his name, the comments appeared aimed at Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel, a long-time ally of Bill and Hillary Clinton and former White House chief of staff to President Barack Obama.

“Any elected official with knowledge that the tape was being suppressed or improperly withheld should resign. No one should be shielded by power or position,” Sanders said in a statement.


We all know that Rahm knew. Rham's got to go. If Hillary knew how to lead, or actually gave a shit about black lives, she would call for Rahm's head to.

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Response to Bjorn Against (Original post)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 10:24 PM

49. The DEMOCRATS as a whole have a Rahm problem.

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People who, while parading as progressives, needlessly close over 50 schools in disadvantaged areas and then turn over educational policy to Eli Broad Academy gestapo flunkies.

Among many other duplicitous actions, unfortunately.

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Response to forest444 (Reply #49)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 10:41 PM

57. Exactly. It's all this third way bullshit and this "nothing matters as long as we win" myopic...

attitude that hurts us all in the long run.

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Response to Bread and Circus (Reply #57)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 11:06 PM

71. And worst of all, it all seems to have been narrowed down to a choice between that

and Reichpublican mob rule - until Bernie came along, that is.

We can only hope the timing is right; it has to be.

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Response to forest444 (Reply #71)

Sat Dec 5, 2015, 12:03 AM

89. It is kind of like that... it's almost a bind between cynicism and softcore fascism

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Response to forest444 (Reply #49)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 10:45 PM

61. Did Clinton support Rahm on shutting down Chicago public schools? Please read how to sell of

a city through privatization.

http://inthesetimes.com/article/17533/how_to_sell_off_a_city

Scroll down to look at the privatization under Rahm.


Who benfits? Hillary's backers and donors.

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Response to DhhD (Reply #61)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 11:01 PM

69. Great reading. Thank you!

Profitization of public assets seems to be in style these days.

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Response to forest444 (Reply #49)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 11:55 PM

88. this is what we are fighting

And this is what Hillary represents and is fighting US for.

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Response to Bjorn Against (Original post)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 10:36 PM

55. Gonna' have to put on some running shoes...

to get enough distance away from Ram Emanuel...a person (?) who should never have been given any public office, but managed to screw over large segments of the population...


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Response to Bjorn Against (Original post)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 10:41 PM

58. So. MANY. Problems.

 

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Response to Bjorn Against (Original post)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 10:41 PM

59. I was at the Chicago protests, I have some good pics, what's a good site to post them and link?

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Response to Bread and Circus (Reply #59)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 10:45 PM

62. Start a thread in General Discussion and post them on DU.

I'd like to see them!

Let me know when you do!

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Response to Fawke Em (Reply #62)

Sat Dec 5, 2015, 12:04 AM

90. Can I just upload them directly to DU from my phone?

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Response to Bread and Circus (Reply #90)

Sat Dec 5, 2015, 12:22 AM

96. Pretty sure you'll have to host them somewhere, like photobucket. n/t

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Response to winter is coming (Reply #96)

Sat Dec 5, 2015, 12:27 AM

98. ahh ok cool ty

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Response to Bjorn Against (Original post)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 10:56 PM

66. Third Way corporate DLC'ers

 

They stick together on the gravy train.

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Response to Bjorn Against (Original post)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 11:04 PM

70. Problem is that she's not serious.

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Response to Bjorn Against (Original post)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 11:10 PM

72. Ok so he partly stole the election by hiding this video

 

If the video had been public, he might have lost. That guy is trash.

And Hillary is standing by her pal. Tells you something.

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Response to Bjorn Against (Original post)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 11:32 PM

82. Hillary doesn't have a Rahm problem.

 

Rahm has a Rahm problem.

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #82)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 11:36 PM

83. Why don't you tell us again, like you just did but deleted, that "you guys would vote for the

Crucifixion of Christ"? (Post76)
That was SUCH a lovely post.

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Response to kath (Reply #83)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 11:39 PM

85. I said You guys would blame her for the crucifixion of christ.

 

I deleted it because it was harsh.

Get what I said right please.

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #85)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 11:42 PM

86. Sorry I didn't get the wording right - read it right before it disappeared,but knew that it was some

Over-the-top-bullshit about the crucifixion of Christ. Thanks for clarifying.

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Response to kath (Reply #86)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 11:44 PM

87. That is why I self deleted my snark.

 

It was over the top.

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #82)

Sat Dec 5, 2015, 12:30 AM

99. "She knows Mayor Emanuel loves Chicago, and is sure he wants to do all he can...

to restore trust in the Chicago Police Department"

The notion that Emanuel would be someone who could restore trust is laughably absurd, yet that's HRC's current response to this situation. It's classic noncommital weasel-speak, and it will come back to bite her in the ass.

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Response to winter is coming (Reply #99)

Sat Dec 5, 2015, 01:37 AM

105. She has a problem taking

 

a stand and sticking to it. More blah-blah from her.

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Response to Bjorn Against (Original post)

Sat Dec 5, 2015, 03:11 AM

108. Of course she's not serious about BLM. Politics is more important. She is not going to throw Rahm

under the bus because he know where all the skeletons are buried.

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Response to Bjorn Against (Original post)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 11:44 AM

109. Kick

Every official who knew about the mrder of that young boy and covered it up should be charged with obstruction of justice or worse.

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