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Hillary doubles down in support of Rahm's criminal malfeasance and cover-up for killer-cops.
Clinton still confident in Rahm Emanuel
By Mario Trujillo * December 05, 2015 * The Hill
Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton says she still has confidence in Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel, amid controversy surrounding the delayed release of a video that showed Chicago police shooting a black teenager last year.
Clinton responded I do when asked whether she stood by Emanuel, who is a veteran of both the Obama and Clinton administrations.
He loves Chicago and I'm confident that he's going to do everything he can to get to the bottom of these issues and take whatever measures are necessary to remedy them, she told reporters Friday in Iowa, according to Bloomberg.
Emanuel penned an op-ed Friday contesting the idea that the video showing the killing of Laquan McDonald by police was withheld because of his election.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/262207-clinton-expresses-confidence-in-chicago-mayor
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)That's more honest, don't you think?
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)Some has gots, and some has nots.
Ain't no thing.
marym625
(17,997 posts)What, exactly, has to happen to say, "Rahm screwed up and I can't stand by him."?
Well, wtf, it was just another black kid
Disgusting
MissDeeds
(7,499 posts)I can't understand how her supporters can excuse or dismiss this.
Kind of like "Doing a heck of a job, Brownie."
marym625
(17,997 posts)reformist2
(9,841 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)loyalsister
(13,390 posts)Is that something I missed or does she still refuse to say it?
marym625
(17,997 posts)You know, "yes, black lives matter" applause. Now gtfo. Something neither O'Malley or Sanders have done
TIME TO PANIC
(1,894 posts)All the more reason to be concerned about her donors.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Sometimes a "good" character trait (loyalty in this case) can become a liability, when
the company you keep is unsavory.
Baitball Blogger
(46,675 posts)Loyal to a cause, Loyal to a mission, Loyal to a social network. At some point you have to use good judgement and know when you have to extricate yourself from a bad cause, a faulty mission or a corrupt social network. Otherwise, you are defined by these factors.
Akicita
(1,196 posts)for political gain is neither good judgment nor moral. It is in fact disgusting and corrupt. It is past time to clean out those from both parties who put their own political interests above the lives of black citizens.
Baitball Blogger
(46,675 posts)Spot on.
Akicita
(1,196 posts)Welcome to DU.
SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)Nailed it
bvar22
(39,909 posts)Rahm knows where the skeletons are hidden in Chicago, and from at least two National Democratic Administrations.
TIME TO PANIC
(1,894 posts)Proserpina
(2,352 posts)cascadiance
(19,537 posts)... the same way he proudly has in the past that shows his true colors as a DINO?
Docreed2003
(16,846 posts)Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)And I'll say again as I have before..... HRC's suitors don't even SEE the list of corporate donors she has pinned to her coronation robe. I can only guess they think she's SO entrancing that she's got these financiers all dying to help the little guys (and gals).
It's like: How the HELL does 2 + 2 come up 5???
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)olddots
(10,237 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)I heard it here! On this forum. From the self-appointed voice.
It MUST be true.
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)ᗺLM
MissDeeds
(7,499 posts)Ever, but especially after this.
marym625
(17,997 posts)I follow them, get their newsletters and an friends with one of the Ferguson leaders irl. (that happened because of a post I did here) Not once have I seen that.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Faux pas
(14,643 posts)character. That is all.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)The corrupt dc half is hoping to gather up enough votes from the few remaining sane republicans, bundle them with the sycophants, dinos, and anti-white male voters, get into power and keep the oligarchy going while keeping abortion legal. The other half will be ignored and scorned except on election day, when they'll be threatened.
Interesting times indeed.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)another, and scrape together a little bit of this sector, a handful of that, some endorsements from the top of every pile, and voila, a winning coalition
Cassiopeia
(2,603 posts)They've been proven correct for decades.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)or torpedo the primary thereof
the central issue is: they did NOT expect a real run--any pink-faced leftish wonky old Senator who flaps his arms like a Warner Bros cartoon would do even worse than DU fan favorite Kucinich did: after all, he's to the left of the approved candidates, and we know that any real left is only one wing of the party--why, barely "a third of a third" nationally-speaking! heck, Will Marshall says that the losses since 2010 are only because the Pelosi and Kerry left wing of the party replaced Emanuel's cross-party appeal!
the ultimate cause of all this is: they COULD NOT expect a real run: "what politics is" is going to enough events with people of groups X Y and Z, racking up endorsements (like poker chips), promising to "feel for" groups with entirely opposite messages and needs, and then the glorious victory!
there's two types of reaching across the aisle to the GOP: adopting their policies and making them realize that all the proposed policies are just there to screw them further; they really think that 60% of Americans don't vote because they find the GOP too far left and the Dems too far right, even on economic issues--after all, Obama's not a TOTAL austerian!
SCantiGOP
(13,862 posts)Go back and read your post. It is an arrogant, spiteful insult to every Clinton supporter in this board. Glad I won't see anything else from you again.
kath
(10,565 posts)I have never known a case where the truth hurt.
Oh, by the way, in my state Clinton has better than a 2:1 lead in the polls and the endorsement of more than 90% of local and state elected officials.
Vattel
(9,289 posts)So far there is no proof that Emanuel was involved in a cover-up, especially not one aimed at helping him to win the election.
merrily
(45,251 posts)SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)Sorry, never did like this guy.
GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)knowing why.
erronis
(15,170 posts)Vattel
(9,289 posts)Is he lying? I think there is a strong possibility that he is, but I don't really know.
Logical
(22,457 posts)Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)Who will take insurance with him for future use...
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)Juicy_Bellows
(2,427 posts)I imagine he's got the goods on a lot of people
erronis
(15,170 posts)Bringing up the rear (and the real business end), backstabbing, blackmailing, lying, colluding, innuendos and insinuations. Machiavelli had it all down pat a few centuries ago.
GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)Android3.14
(5,402 posts)Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Loyalty can't make me overlook 17-year-old Laquan McDonald shot 16 times by Chicago Police Officer Jason Van Dyke the bullets coming first as McDonald tried to walk away and then as he lay dying on the ground. I can't overlook the facts: that it took Emanuel and the city of Chicago 13 months and a judge's order to release the dashcam footage, that the city only announced a settlement with the McDonald family conveniently after Emanuel's election, and that it took a city's outrage to force the mayor to even consider dismissing police Superintendent Garry McCarthy, which he ultimately did this week.
I can't overlook Emanuel's failure to meet even the most basic benchmarks of transparency. He has damaged beyond repair the public's trust in Chicago's law enforcement and in his leadership.
I can't overlook the fact the most disturbing fact -- that so much of this situation could have been avoided had Emanuel looked at any point at Laquan McDonald and seen him as a tragic consequence of a broken system, as another young black man who didn't need to die, instead of just a political liability.
Elected officials and law enforcement officers swear an oath to serve and protect the people. This duty is more pronounced in the context of leadership. As the mayor of Chicago, Rahm Emanuel had a distinct duty to serve Laquan McDonald and protect him from harm. When he failed at this, he had a duty, at the very least, to seek justice in his name.
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Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)tularetom
(23,664 posts)The quid is she expresses strong support for this slimy piece of shit.
The quo is he keeps under wraps the ton of incriminating material in Clinton, her husband, and Obama which he's been accumulating for the past 20 years.
Broward
(1,976 posts)murielm99
(30,712 posts)Saying something inflammatory about Rahm or anything else concerning the police shooting could set off a series of events in Chicago that could lead to more unrest and death.
Criminal malfeasance? Your rhetoric is over the top and ridiculous. Clinton is correct that everything needs to be investigated before conclusions can be reached. You need to tone it down and stop the name-calling.
Truprogressive85
(900 posts)Unrest and death ?
A power hungry politician care more about his career than justice and transparency
#RahmResign
murielm99
(30,712 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)He also sat on damning evidence of a cold-blooded murder of a black man by a city employee for over a year.
This^ is 'criminal malfeasance' in my book.
erronis
(15,170 posts)there would be nothing to investigate.
Do you really believe that the Mayor and/or the police oversight board would have eventually released all of the information that has come out so far?
And do you really believe that all information is now in plain sight? Not counting the videos from BK that were erased by the police.
"Clinton is correct that everything needs to be investigated before conclusions can be reached." Why wasn't it investigated earlier (13 months!?!?) Who would have done the "investigation"? Who would have been damaged if an independent investigator found this perversion of justice?
Follow the money. Rahm Emmanuel and his machinery would/will be tarnished and damaged. By association, the Clintons and Obama are also damaged.
It's not the "American Way", but sometimes I think wrong-doers should confess their sins and fall on their swords. Instead the "American Way" is to deflect, defer, and then go on to land a plush job in some more lucrative world. I wonder if the Clinton Foundation is in need of a high-powered asshole.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)murielm99
(30,712 posts)It is being investigated. Your faux outrage is noted.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts).
Logical
(22,457 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)Show them. She does not care about black people if she supports Rahm.
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)azmom
(5,208 posts)erronis
(15,170 posts)Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)azmom
(5,208 posts)Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)tritsofme
(17,367 posts)Fast Walker 52
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Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Rahm sits behind the Mayoral desk, where "the buck stops here"
He also sat on damning evidence of a cold-blooded murder of a black teenager, by a city
employee, for over a year.
Regardless of the reason Rahm failed in his mayoral duties to seek timely justice for
the murdered teen, his failure amounts to criminal malfeasance in my book, so he should
resign immediately.
Logical
(22,457 posts)Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)Duval
(4,280 posts)She isn't doing herself any favors these days.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)Did Sanders come out slamming Rahm for his handling of the mess?
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)"Unlike Clinton, Sanders is also saying Emanuel should step down if he was at all involved in a cover up of the shooting"
http://chicagoist.com/2015/12/04/bernie_sanders_joins_calls_for_thos.php
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)No Dem candidate can afford to flush Chicago down the toilet. Sanders triangulated; Hillary hedged.
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)You can't run for president and make statements presuming guilt before the investigation is completed, even if its almost certain to find guilt.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)are politicians that I do not want to represent me.
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demmiblue
(36,816 posts)Truprogressive85
(900 posts)Ask black people to vote for him and when they ask for transparency are told to shut up !
Screw Rahm Emanuel and anyone who defends him
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)Thanks for making me curious enough at your sig to go and learn about Thomas Sankara. Fascinating guy!
Truprogressive85
(900 posts)He has a speech about in which he says "The revolution cannot triumph without the emancipation of women"
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)"Women hold up the other half of the sky."
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)she would be one to stand behind Rahm. I say, let her. If this is what her supporters want, good luck winning the Primaries.
PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)and its clear as day that minority communities are hurt the most by the incarceration for,profit model.
her lack of interest in justice here is part of the same. justice is not important to her else she would be against profit prisons, the death penalty, and would be screaming for a resignation here.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Birds of a feather thing and all.
Had to be something lucrative and comfy for him and other 1% ers and damning and damaging to the rest of us who have to live with their messy cronyism.
Here's to charred aspirations
Karma13612
(4,538 posts)For me, I see this as a defining moment about which she will again be on the wrong side, when all is said and done.