It's going to be a close election!!! It's December 8 and we don't know if it will be Giuliani or

[Attorney in Texas]

Clinton who will win the general election after they both cruise to easy victories in their primaries!

Giuliani and Clinton are both so far ahead in the primary polls that I have declared victory for my party's nominee and shifted my focus to the general election already!

[Gamecock Lefty]

1. This tired old argument???

Again, do the math, Bernistas. 2008 is 7 years ago. 2015 - 2008 = 7.

Remember Howard Sanders? I mean, Howard Dean?

[Dawgs]

4. 2008 CYCLE!!!!!

Or were you just joking?

[Attorney in Texas]

7. You're kidding, right?

[upaloopa]

2. Any port in a storm

[Dawgs]

3. And..

On December 8 of the prior year —

2004 CYCLE
Howard Dean leads the Democratic field by 8 points. He'll lead for 55 more days.

2008 CYCLE
Hillary Clinton leads the Democratic field by 19.6 points. She'll lead for 67 more days.

Rudy Giuliani leads the Republican field by 7.4 points. He'll lead for 30 more days.

2012 CYCLE
Newt Gingrich leads the Republican field by 11.7 points. He'll lead for 27 more days.

[NCTraveler]

11. Right?

How can people look at something so wildly different and draw such a direct connection.

[99Forever]

21. Bwahahaha...

"Wildly different....":

Yeah right.

One's a presidential primary and the other is.....



Whoops.

[NCTraveler]

22. 99Forever. Presidential elections are the same.

When your analysis stops at "Presidential Election," you might be doing it wrong.

[99Forever]

23. That was presidential PRIMARY...

... Mr Attention2detail.

[Dawgs]

25. I didn't draw that connection.

But it does show that one candidate leading at this point does not mean that the race is over, as many on here have claimed.

[OilemFirchen]

24. None of those candidates had a plurality.

And, unsurprisingly, none had a majority.

See the difference?

[Dawgs]

27. Only in a world where people's mind can't change would that be true.

And right now it's not clear if Hillary's poll numbers are a reflection of name recognition, or if they are from solid unwavering supporters.

[OilemFirchen]

28. Okay.

I made a statement of fact. It's useful information when comparing disparate scenarios.

Maybe someone else is interested in your tangent.

[Dawgs]

29. I made a statement of fact too. People can change their minds before they vote.

Is that not a fact?

Also, it's also true that neither of us know why people are choosing Hillary when they vote in polls.

[OilemFirchen]

30. An irrelevant statement of fact, yes.

Nobody knows if the world will end tonight. Fact. Who cares?

[UglyGreed]

5. Oh they know, they know

and that is why they are frightened..............

[reddread]

8. pretty jumpy

maybe if they had some deft moves?
oh well.

[UglyGreed]

10. Things will settle down

once they realize they are in good hands with Bernie at the helm.

[NCTraveler]

17. Who is frightened? You keep saying that. nt.

[UglyGreed]

18. Let me just put it

this way. When my team of choice say in Football is dominate I really don't need to put down other teams. I just sit back and watch them kick butt. It's the team's fans who feel insecure who find the need to bolster their team because deep down they fear defeat. Hillary has lost before and I'm sure it's lingers in the back of her supporters' minds, it's just human nature.

[KMOD]

20. Is that one of those babies for Bernie I keep hearing about?

Poor little guy. He's a cutie pie.

[UglyGreed]

32. LOL

nope I think it's one of the Clinton's kids Here's a Bernie baby to brighten up your day!

[MaggieD]

9. I smell some desperation here

LOL!

[reddread]

13. not surprising

[leftofcool]

12. 2008 Redux

Got any new material?

[DCBob]

14. If only Bernie were anything like Obama!

[Attorney in Texas]

15. If only Clinton 2016's negative trustworthiness ratings were like Clinton 2008's positive ratings

[brooklynite]

19. If only Clinton were 10-15 point ahead of where she was in 2007...

[George II]

16. Only a matter of time before we see this:

[Renew Deal]

26. You're missing Bill Bradley

Who compares more closely to Sanders

[merrily]

31. The primaries/caucuses/Super Tuesday were much later in 2008.

IIRC, the first caucus of 2016 is at the end of January. Not to mention, many more debates in 2008, giving the lesser known Obama more of a chance to make himself known to voters.

Yep. A much more thorough job of rigging this time.

[brooklynite]

33. So, returning to traditional dates is now RIGGING the election?

will conspiracy theories never cease...