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PPP: Obama +1 in NORTH CAROLINA (Original Post) TroyD Sep 2012 OP
So Robbins Sep 2012 #1
The Cons will win the Governorship in that state, and in 2014 it will be difficult to vote in NC. JRLeft Sep 2012 #2
NC is gonna get SCREWED by McCrory ProfessionalLeftist Sep 2012 #6
If we can gotv for Obama, McCrory just might end up getting screwed. mnhtnbb Sep 2012 #15
Will be interesting to see how Kay Hagan does in 2014 TroyD Sep 2012 #7
LOL ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2012 #3
That's PPP's wording TroyD Sep 2012 #5
NC will be about GOTV just like it was in 2008 WI_DEM Sep 2012 #4
Obama can win NC. speedoo Sep 2012 #8
They should send Bill Clinton there a few times bigdarryl Sep 2012 #10
That worked last time. Bill gave a speech on a porch in my town in NC and it was unreal. musicblind Sep 2012 #25
Damn that's bad was hoping for a 5 point bounce bigdarryl Sep 2012 #9
It's plus 5 in Ohio. NC will be much closer Jennicut Sep 2012 #11
PPP: Bill Clinton (59/34) and Michelle Obama (55/37) very popular in NC TroyD Sep 2012 #12
That's funny Robbins Sep 2012 #18
Bill Clinton and NC TroyD Sep 2012 #23
Disappointing Blue Yorker Sep 2012 #13
LOL. Romney is BEHIND in NC! That's not disappointing. Lex Sep 2012 #19
Correct ... Romney got no bump whatsoever ... very disappointing for the right wing nut jobs. JoePhilly Sep 2012 #24
It's all going to be about gotv in NC. Obama has a strong presence on the ground here. mnhtnbb Sep 2012 #14
Good. Make Willard and the Kochs dump even more money in there. RedSpartan Sep 2012 #16
Republicans are spending a ton here in NC Thrill Sep 2012 #17
And yet the polls aren't moving in favor of Romney Lex Sep 2012 #20
love it. make Romney spend all his money in N.C. tnvoter Sep 2012 #21
It would be great to win NC again. DCBob Sep 2012 #22
I live in NC and I think we are going to win it again but... musicblind Sep 2012 #26
 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
2. The Cons will win the Governorship in that state, and in 2014 it will be difficult to vote in NC.
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:50 PM
Sep 2012

ProfessionalLeftist

(4,982 posts)
6. NC is gonna get SCREWED by McCrory
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:58 PM
Sep 2012

Economy going into the shitter there, along with the environment, voting rights, women's rights, etc.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
7. Will be interesting to see how Kay Hagan does in 2014
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 12:03 AM
Sep 2012

When Kay Hagan runs for re-election in 2014, it will be interesting to see whether she can pull the level of support she did in 2008 when she beat Elizabeth Dole.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
3. LOL
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:51 PM
Sep 2012

I doubt Obama wins NC again, but as long as it remains close, it shows how awful a candidate Rmoney is and how he can't win the swing states.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
5. That's PPP's wording
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:53 PM
Sep 2012

I just copied it from their Twitter feed.

Hard to know who will win it if it's this close. Most people didn't expect Obama to win it 4 years ago, but he might be able to do so again if he maintains a solid National lead and has solid debate performances.

Remember that Obama was several points ahead of Romney until May when the gay marriage issue arose.

It may come down to who has the best ground operation.

speedoo

(11,229 posts)
8. Obama can win NC.
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 12:08 AM
Sep 2012

1. Lots of colleges to work.
2. Lots of retirees.
3. Who's the better candidate, Romney or McCain?

How about a 10 day bus tour: Iowa, Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia, North Carolina. Maybe add Missouri if that state shows any promise.

musicblind

(4,484 posts)
25. That worked last time. Bill gave a speech on a porch in my town in NC and it was unreal.
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 01:35 AM
Sep 2012

People were crying.

Bill is loved by the democrats in NC.

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
11. It's plus 5 in Ohio. NC will be much closer
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 12:26 AM
Sep 2012

because of different demos and types of voters there. But we can still win in NC. The important thing is Obama has a chance there.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
12. PPP: Bill Clinton (59/34) and Michelle Obama (55/37) very popular in NC
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 12:58 AM
Sep 2012
Bill Clinton (59/34) and Michelle Obama (55/37) very popular in NC, could be effective surrogates last 8 weeks:


http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/09/north-carolina-remains-extremely-tight.html

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
18. That's funny
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 10:51 AM
Sep 2012

Bill Clinton never carried NC In his 2 electoral landslides.I guess as NC has become more democratic In presidential races Clinton
has become more popular.Plus I believe the hispanic population In NC Is growing too.

NC may be one Obama state where supporting gay marrage has helped Romney somewhat.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
23. Bill Clinton and NC
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 08:50 PM
Sep 2012

You're right - Bill never won NC, although he came within about 3-5 points I think.

Bill won a lot of other Southern states (eg. Arkansas, Louisiana, Tennessee, Georgia, Kentucky, West Virginia etc.) so perhaps it wasn't a priority of the Clinton campaign since they had other targets, and like you said, the demographics were different then.

Bill also won Missouri and Arizona.

But the numbers above show Bill would easily win in North Carolina today if he could run.

RedSpartan

(1,693 posts)
16. Good. Make Willard and the Kochs dump even more money in there.
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 10:25 AM
Sep 2012

If they are struggling to hold (really, flip) North Carolina, they are in serious, serious trouble. Take nothing for granted, GOTV and can you say "Landslide"?"

Lex

(34,108 posts)
20. And yet the polls aren't moving in favor of Romney
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 11:38 AM
Sep 2012

despite the hemorrhaging of money/ads here.

musicblind

(4,484 posts)
26. I live in NC and I think we are going to win it again but...
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 01:40 AM
Sep 2012

...it will not be a cake walk. I see SO many Romney ads compared to Obama ads.

We have to work on getting the vote out in: Charlotte, Raleigh, Greensboro, Winston-Salem, Wilmington, Asheville, and High-Point in that order.

If we can get a huge turn out in those cities we will win. Those cities are overwhelmingly Obama, and those are the 7 biggest cities in the state.

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