2016 Postmortem
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Romney campaign: Polls are liberal media liesSource: Salon.com
By Alex Pareene
While some voters will feel a bit of a sugar-high from the conventions, the basic structure of the race has not changed significantly. The reality of the Obama economy will reassert itself as the ultimate downfall of the Obama Presidency, and Mitt Romney will win this race.
In his acceptance speech, President Obama did not offer any solutions for the millions of Americans unemployed or underemployed. But his convention speech was not the only big letdown to voters, as Americans also dealt with yet another dismal jobs report last week. President Obama is the only president in modern American history to stand before the American people asking for re-election with this many Americans struggling to find work. The key numbers in this election are the 43 straight months of 8% or higher unemployment, the 23 million Americans struggling to find work, and the 47 million Americans who are on food stamps.
So its still the economy.
Heres the extent of the polling data that the memo actually mentions: Wisconsin is now in play, one poll shows the race in New Mexico closing, and the Obama campaign is laying the groundwork for a stealth withdrawal from North Carolina. Those are not really the three crucial states this year. (Also, New Mexico still seems out of reach for Mr. Romney, barring an unexpected landslide.)
The memo also mentions Historical Data, by which they mean the 1980 election. Political campaign historians will recall President Jimmy Carter led Ronald Reagan by a near double digit margin late in the fall in 1980, Newhouse writes, although thats not true. Reagan was polling ahead of Carter as early as the spring. The 1980 election remains a regular Romney campaign talking point, though, which is bizarre. I understand why the Republicans would like to pretend its 1980, but a 1980 election repeat requires not just a depressed economy and an out-of-touch liberal incumbent, but also an inspiring and likable challenger and most important! a major foreign crisis. Reagan didnt just win on the strength of his debate performance. The Iranian hostage crisis basically sealed the deal. Theres nothing remotely equivalent sinking Obama. (Unless his apology tour emboldens our enemies, I guess? Still time for that to happen!) Furthermore, as John Sides says, in 1980 the GOP convention gave Reagan a huge lead that Carter never overcame which, again, didnt happen this time.
An unnamed Romney adviser sent a more colorful dispatch to the National Reviews Rich Lowry, who posted it under the mostly accurate headline Horses**t.
Its horses**t. Nobody in Boston thinks were going to lose. Were in a tight race. We had a 4-5 point bounce after our convention and it evaporated when they had theirs. Now they have a 4-5 bounce. Its going evaporate in September. We feel good about the map. Were up with advertising in Wisconsin and I think North Carolina is going to come off the board. On Ohio, theyve been spinning for months now that its out of reach.
In case you werent paying attention, it should be noted that the Romney campaign did not actually get a 4-5 point bounce after their convention according to any pollster besides GOP-leaning Rasmussen.
This adviser goes on, naturally, to blame the liberal media. The liberal media is only reporting on tracking polls and state polls because they want Romney to lose!
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SoapBox
(18,791 posts)you are just TOO funny!
That was a joke? Right? Oh wait...I hear it now!
Dog Whistle!
TroyD
(4,551 posts)They don't seem to realize:
1.) Romney does not have the charisma of Reagan.
2.) The demographics 32 years ago were totally different.
Blue Belle
(5,912 posts)Every time Romney or Ryan get in front of a camera, they step in it.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)So many things have changed since that election that comparisons with it are absolutely meaningless.
Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)Just a bunch of sad, aging Boomers who can't let go of their one past triumph.
They're like a middle-aged Al Bundy still crowing about scoring "four touchdowns in a single game."
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)There was a bump for Carter when the hostages were first seized, but as the Crisis continued his support fell. Reagan led by almost 20 points at the time of his convention.
bwphoto
(8 posts)I received and email with this video.
Anyone want to do a fact check on it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=-wIfI2whjiM
Blue Belle
(5,912 posts)I saw the words Dick Morris.
bongbong
(5,436 posts)It's 100% lies.
progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)Blue Belle
(5,912 posts)"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it" --Adolf Hitler
oldsarge54
(582 posts)I do believe that Hitler's minister of propaganda is actually the source of that bit of actual political wisdom. Darn shame it is true.
Blue Belle
(5,912 posts)The book that Hitler wrote, but Goebbels used it as well.
oldsarge54
(582 posts)Won't be the first time I was wrong. If I'm lucky, won't be the last.
Iris
(15,649 posts)Skidmore
(37,364 posts)savalez
(3,517 posts)Kteachums
(331 posts)Blue Belle
(5,912 posts)The Romney Camp would complain that they are actually higher than the polls show, the media bias is skewing them in favor of the Democrats.
Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)"I admit it: the liberal media were never that powerful, and the whole thing was often used as an excuse by conservatives for conservative failures."-- Bill Kristol, conservative 'thinker' and TV psychic
Mittens IS a conservative failure. Now wonder he's trying to blame the lib'rul media.
DFW
(54,302 posts)Unless they show a Republican in the lead, in which case they are God's own Biblical prophesy.