2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumMy favorite minute from last night's debate
Bernie: large multinational corporations "ain't going to like me, and Wall Street is going to like me even less."- Not only is it consistent and honest, it's far from the PC thing to say. But because it comes as no surprise, it's not going to alienate him; he was there long ago. In fact, this is the message people are responding to.
Hillary: "everybody" should love me
- If you believe one's jokes are a reflection of their character, then let's look at Hillary's jokes. Hillary's given credit for things she doesn't deserve, like her foreign affairs expertise and her sense of humor. Both, however, completely blow-up in her face; both Iraq (a vote she regrets) and Libya are disasters. With respect to her sense of humor, at the first debate she identified a number of enemies, but stated she was most proud of having made the Republicans her biggest enemies " grin) hahahaha" (TRUE statement!). Afterwards, she got scorched and hammered over this. After being shamed into regret, she switches into damage control mode. Her joke about Libya had the same dynamic, "We came, we saw, he died (grin) hahahaha" followed by shame, regret, and damage control mode.
ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Zambero
(8,964 posts)I'll say one thing for Hillary. She is fast on her feet, and will derive maximum benefit when given the opportunity to do so.
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
(5,252 posts)Fire... Hot!
Zambero
(8,964 posts)The best politicians (the ones who go on to win) tend to possess that characteristic.
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
(5,252 posts)sense of humor, no regrets. Just kept them coming.
Remember his "haves and have more" joke? Or "Now watch this drive"? Deplorable! No conditioned response to blowback, and he won.
Remember? How could anyone forget that W won twice?
Zambero
(8,964 posts)Bush was dumb as a stump but still managed to hit it "out of the park" with the right comment directed to the right demographic.
Who do you admire the most? "Jesus Christ"
What id your favorite book? "The Bible"
Lame and canned replies, but effective, and creating a lasting and favorable impression with the X-tian CON-servative crowd.
On the other hand, Sarah Palin could never rise to the occasion with Katy Couric's softball questions, which she flubbed one after another.
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
(5,252 posts)...back peddled. Trump is as shameless as W. I have no expectation of Trump becoming president, but in very recent elections, the shameless politician beat 2 conditioned politicians.
People like genuine to ingenuity.
Faux pas
(14,671 posts)bvar22
(39,909 posts)and I love the determined look on Bernie's face when he said it.
That statement reminds me of the father of the Modern Democratic Party, FDR,
when he said, "I welcome their hatred"!